Strange that the key aspect that today two varieties of clarinets exist is not even being mentioned. The modern instruments shown in the video are all Böhm type instruments which are most commonly played in countries such as Sweden, the UK and the US and from which the saxophone was developed. However, in countries such as Austria, Germany and Eastern Europe, classical orchestras exclusively play Oehler type clarinets which are (I think) way closer to the instruments in Mozart's era. This hence begs the question in which of the two styles the replica were being designed. This concerns both the geometry of the mouthpiece and the keys.
Perhaps it is the way it was recorded but that basset horn sounds better than a modern clarinet. Deeper, more mysterious, and bigger also, making Mozart's phrases have more sense. A modern clarinet cannot sound the way Mozart heard it, and that makes his music today more difficult than it should be.
😂. Focus 1- the musical genius that was Mozart 2- the shape of the clarinet starting at the mouthpiece then down to the ball next to… 3. That guy’s crotch
I think “Non più di Fiori” is my favorite Mozart aria. Hearing it with Stadler playing the clarinet must have been a magical, completely new kind of experience.
38:00 There are so many received ideas. When the clarinetto was first invented it was in fact « only loud », whilst the hautbois was already the accomplished instrument of Lully and Rameau, Chauvon and Couperin’s concerts royaux, capable of unspeakable subtlety. There is really not much basis for the idea that the development of instruments in the late 18. c. was an improvement, except that they got louder and the evenness of pitch became a fetish to which the instruments were sacrificed by plumbing them up with keys and other mechanic gadgets. People got annoyed with this program and are looking for a more nuanced one.
37:45 people in the early 18th century found the harpsichord annoying? That is why Couperin published 4 volumes of pieces de clavecin from 1712 or Haydn published his sonatas for clavi-cembalo in 1774? To annoy people?
@@imapaine-diaz4451 have you played on the kind of clavecin Rameau wrote for? And the kind of fortepiano Mozart had to cope with? Speaking of limitations…
Also sorry to see that in all those laudable efforts they did not pick singers with appropriate historic style and neglected little things like the mouthpiece of the clarinet/cdb (incl. ligature in the Tito performance). I play historic clarinets and I admire the playing and gorgeous reconstructed instruments but why compromise on the crucial part that actually makes the sound? I know wooden mouthpieces aren’t as reliable, but the sound! Same goes for ligatures, ask any modern orchestra player if he wants to switch ligs with you! Those who still use cord in particular will look at you like a Chassid being served pork.
The beauty of listening to those that use English as a secondary language is the word selection that comes to mind to express their thought. "Occupy" used to illustrate "use of" in his works is a great way to understandthe intent of a word or expression. There are those that eill belittle those that do not respond literally as the "English" speaker would but you have to give it to the user of English as a second lANGUAGE IS GIVING US a better understanding of what is the purpose of a word, its action, its intent. occupy is a good way to express content. I wish only that my orbit in the USA could encompass the many opportunities that others in the world encounter more often the ability to use a language other than their primary, but we in the USA are so easily insular because of our size to encounter others from the same pot instead of the mixing that may happen in tourist areas or greater Europe. I love this sory and thank you tube fro its content providers finding it to post. So this would be the instrument that his clarent concerto was played to?
Congrats to Stefan Harg for excellent playing on period clarinets (yes there are a couple of oops, but sure these are harder to play than modern clarinets). Also really impressed by 'La clemenza di tito' opera scenes. Even the musicians had period clothing! Great documentary, all clarinet players owe to Stadler.
Those arias exerpts from La Clenenza di tito where really beautiful plaued on the basset clarinett , and a wonderful documentary on the clarinett story its development and so forth, mozart would have intended that his pieces where played this way thankyou for this buguiling programme it has made my eavning notwithstanding i am studying the period clarinetts and also some of the other instruments from the 18c centuary, through to Beethovan into the early c19.
Very interesting documentary. Pity the musical standard isnt up to the documentary. The quintet is constantly out of tune. Somtimes the clarinet but most often the string quartet.
He is really good. This is a fascinating film. Tonally, the modern B-flat clarinet is the same as the basset clarinet. In acoustical design and timbre they are alike. However, mechanically the modern clarinet is a different instrument really. The natural key, if you will, of the basset clarinet is A major, which is why the Clarinet Concerto is in A major.
Yes, I find that almost every composition by Mozart is so oriented around the specific tonal qualities of the intended instruments it is basically impossible to transcribe his works for different instruments, as you can with many composition by other composers.
Thank you very much for your documentary, Bob. As a Classical Music critic in Hong Kong, this documentary give me lots and lots of historical information about Mozart and his time.
Gorgeous playing of that reproduction basset clarinet. The sound is much closer to a sympathetically played modern instrument than I expected. The slightly less powerful projection gives a very good balance with the singers in the opera seria arias.
Strange that the key aspect that today two varieties of clarinets exist is not even being mentioned. The modern instruments shown in the video are all Böhm type instruments which are most commonly played in countries such as Sweden, the UK and the US and from which the saxophone was developed. However, in countries such as Austria, Germany and Eastern Europe, classical orchestras exclusively play Oehler type clarinets which are (I think) way closer to the instruments in Mozart's era. This hence begs the question in which of the two styles the replica were being designed. This concerns both the geometry of the mouthpiece and the keys.
Mozart, meu preferido!
Why oh why are there modern stringed instruments being played along with a period clarinet???
That first trio in the menuette is really very moving, almost the best part of the quintet, and I am a clarinet player...
Omg a documentary about mozarts trumpet concerto! I think it would've rivaled haydn and hummels if it wasn't lost
I have never heard such a bad string quartet in my life! Rude, unstylish, bad traction. You better not play Mozart!
This is probably one of the clearest recordings of mozart clarinet I have ever heard on CZcams. Congratulations to the sound team
Could Putin have influenced Stadler to sell Mozart's promissory note?
Perhaps it is the way it was recorded but that basset horn sounds better than a modern clarinet. Deeper, more mysterious, and bigger also, making Mozart's phrases have more sense. A modern clarinet cannot sound the way Mozart heard it, and that makes his music today more difficult than it should be.
What a rubbish documentary. What is this?!
Very interesting.❤
😂. Focus 1- the musical genius that was Mozart 2- the shape of the clarinet starting at the mouthpiece then down to the ball next to… 3. That guy’s crotch
I think “Non più di Fiori” is my favorite Mozart aria. Hearing it with Stadler playing the clarinet must have been a magical, completely new kind of experience.
Thank you very much for the documentary.
Mozart's work is so human, he has touched many souls and hearts.
38:00 There are so many received ideas. When the clarinetto was first invented it was in fact « only loud », whilst the hautbois was already the accomplished instrument of Lully and Rameau, Chauvon and Couperin’s concerts royaux, capable of unspeakable subtlety. There is really not much basis for the idea that the development of instruments in the late 18. c. was an improvement, except that they got louder and the evenness of pitch became a fetish to which the instruments were sacrificed by plumbing them up with keys and other mechanic gadgets. People got annoyed with this program and are looking for a more nuanced one.
Ant & Wolf defiantly had 'something' going on. Just listen to the music.
37:45 people in the early 18th century found the harpsichord annoying? That is why Couperin published 4 volumes of pieces de clavecin from 1712 or Haydn published his sonatas for clavi-cembalo in 1774? To annoy people?
The "people" referred to weren't the listeners. they were the composers and players frustrated with the limitations of the instrument.
@@imapaine-diaz4451 have you played on the kind of clavecin Rameau wrote for? And the kind of fortepiano Mozart had to cope with? Speaking of limitations…
Also sorry to see that in all those laudable efforts they did not pick singers with appropriate historic style and neglected little things like the mouthpiece of the clarinet/cdb (incl. ligature in the Tito performance). I play historic clarinets and I admire the playing and gorgeous reconstructed instruments but why compromise on the crucial part that actually makes the sound? I know wooden mouthpieces aren’t as reliable, but the sound! Same goes for ligatures, ask any modern orchestra player if he wants to switch ligs with you! Those who still use cord in particular will look at you like a Chassid being served pork.
Maybe, because he had to switch the mouthpiece a lot between different instruments during the live opera performance, he wanted something reliable?
Very well, only too bad the string players were not granted the matching period instruments and strings.
I've just leafed through it. I named some hypothetical computers with its composers
I have Claude V. Palisca's book on Baroque Music
Saint Saens(sp?) peaks my interest
I love Mozart and Bach. I would like to hear some baroque. It's my favorites
Please provide English subtitles for the clarinetists talk
There are subtitles, just click on "cc" on the lower part of the screen and you will get the english translation.
they didnt have rovner ligatures in mozart era. cheating!
Lovely documentary, thank you!
Grat music, beautiful picture and Super interesting. Thank you.
The beauty of listening to those that use English as a secondary language is the word selection that comes to mind to express their thought. "Occupy" used to illustrate "use of" in his works is a great way to understandthe intent of a word or expression. There are those that eill belittle those that do not respond literally as the "English" speaker would but you have to give it to the user of English as a second lANGUAGE IS GIVING US a better understanding of what is the purpose of a word, its action, its intent. occupy is a good way to express content. I wish only that my orbit in the USA could encompass the many opportunities that others in the world encounter more often the ability to use a language other than their primary, but we in the USA are so easily insular because of our size to encounter others from the same pot instead of the mixing that may happen in tourist areas or greater Europe. I love this sory and thank you tube fro its content providers finding it to post. So this would be the instrument that his clarent concerto was played to?
When Mozart returned to Salzburg from Mannheim and Paris he lamented that Salzburg lacked clarinets.
Congrats to Stefan Harg for excellent playing on period clarinets (yes there are a couple of oops, but sure these are harder to play than modern clarinets). Also really impressed by 'La clemenza di tito' opera scenes. Even the musicians had period clothing! Great documentary, all clarinet players owe to Stadler.
Those arias exerpts from La Clenenza di tito where really beautiful plaued on the basset clarinett , and a wonderful documentary on the clarinett story its development and so forth, mozart would have intended that his pieces where played this way thankyou for this buguiling programme it has made my eavning notwithstanding i am studying the period clarinetts and also some of the other instruments from the 18c centuary, through to Beethovan into the early c19.
Yes articulation is more difficult as you can't sustain a note like on the modern clarinet.
Thank you for this documentary, amazing and beautiful
Very interesting documentary. Pity the musical standard isnt up to the documentary. The quintet is constantly out of tune. Somtimes the clarinet but most often the string quartet.
He is really good. This is a fascinating film. Tonally, the modern B-flat clarinet is the same as the basset clarinet. In acoustical design and timbre they are alike. However, mechanically the modern clarinet is a different instrument really. The natural key, if you will, of the basset clarinet is A major, which is why the Clarinet Concerto is in A major.
come one my Ling- Ling wannabee's
Parto 22:45 Non piu di fiori 29:13
German speaker needs translation.
He's swedish tho.
You have to click on the closed captions to see the translated subtitles.
Excellent information, delightfully presented. Thank you. Agree this should be promoted more widely
If you listen to Mozart's GRAN PARTITA on period instruments then on modern instruments, the period one sounds better
Yes, I find that almost every composition by Mozart is so oriented around the specific tonal qualities of the intended instruments it is basically impossible to transcribe his works for different instruments, as you can with many composition by other composers.
My congrats to this video!!!! Very helpful to understand the late-Mozart and obviously the relationship with the clarinet
Bellissimo! Complimenti, questo è un uso intelligente di CZcams
Fabulous. A well told story ...
Awesome! Thanks for posting it
Amazing
Crystal clear Geniality- no need to add more words.
Thank you very much for your documentary, Bob. As a Classical Music critic in Hong Kong, this documentary give me lots and lots of historical information about Mozart and his time.
I really enjoyed this program.
Gorgeous playing of that reproduction basset clarinet. The sound is much closer to a sympathetically played modern instrument than I expected. The slightly less powerful projection gives a very good balance with the singers in the opera seria arias.
great stuff. thanks a lot!@!@
You won't believe this but I've lost my clarinet and I can't find it any suggestions of where to look?
Have you found it yet?