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Making Music is TOO easy because we have great teachers like Rick making it easy for us lol. I mean. complaining about NOT paying dues haas nothing to do with generation but with the accessibility. Rick ia great but to be honest, Thats a fruit of labor he created the space us young to make music easier due to his experience e so we have our own problems. (ai) so its all about how its used. Cause the end user is listener.

No disrespect to you, when Rick says that music is too easy to make today, he is correct. When I started, we did not have access to computers with software to create music. If we wanted to record, you had to save up for months just for 3 hours time in a studio. So, when we went into the studio, we had to learn the tracks which we played long before we went into the studio. There were no do-overs, no re-recordings, no re-amping guitars, or Melodyne, Autotune or fixing in the mixing afterwards. I had one guitar, with one amp/cab and a pedal board, and if I wanted a specific sound, I had to work to get it with what I had. There was no Guitar Rig to make you sound good (Go look up how much work it took by boomers to make you sound good with that software). There were no massive VST libraries, no Splice or CZcams or Tabs, and if you wanted to learn a song, you either had a friend teach you it or you spent time learning it from ear. Here's the hard truth for you, go learn to tune your instrument, learn to play the instrument (That solo was awful). Your drumming was out of time, slack and all over the place, and your bass was way over compressed. You are as no where as good as you think you are, and you certainly have nowhere near the knowledge of Rick Beato to be criticizing him, especially when he is trying to help you. You come across as a bit of a know-it-all who has some musically ability, but you are nowhere near as good as you think you are. Furthermore, you are a bedroom musician, and it shows. One day, in years to come, you will come back and cringe at your arrogance and ignorance.

Ricks point is that you don't know what you don't know yet. The way things are going you very well might not learn what you can to be a better song writer composer performer and recording artist because more and more is being done for you...when you hear people say " its easier this way or you don't have to know how it will do it for you" its a sign that people are being taking out of the process. The humanism is disappearing. Today because things are more automated or generated for you in music you loose the opportunity to learn things because it is out of sight out of mind. He's not saying that what your doing is wrong ... he's more upset because how things are being now you will learn less of what made music great. Often times the great music comes from overcoming things that were a hurdle. The was more individuality on the playlists. There was more dynamics. Its becoming too homogenized. Many people have less of an understanding of music because often times it is just background now! His point was that because music was less accessible it was valued more. You spent more time with it... You interacted with it and because of that you paid more attention to it. You read the notes .. You looked at the photos etc in order to connect with the artist.... You just had more time with it so it meant more... Keep making what you make but don't cut out his experience it is invaluable. He often points out these things not because he thinks its necessary in order for it to be good... He point them out because they do make a difference and to not settle because its easier... Strive to make music how you can but never stop seeking for the things that make it better in quality and by all means the journey you take and hurdles you over come to make it are often more important to you as an artist because you can own that. It gives you experience and understanding your journey. Stay engaged with ever aspect. Break a leg kid!

I don't like music, I LOVE IT.... If I DON'T love it, I DON'T listen...

Well, I'm not quite as old as Rick, but I'm pretty old and I am a drum teacher. The thing about kids not practicing is pretty true. But I do have a handful of my students who practice at home and those kids always sound the best obviously. I think one of the main problems is a lot of kids are not being exposed to music the right way largely due to social media. As far as amp modeling, to me this is the absolute best way to record guitars. There's absolutely no need to use an amp in a studio. Modeling technology sounds the best by far. For drums, I do somewhat agree that as soon as you quantize you're using a drum machine, but some songs call for a drum machine, so that's not always bad. As a fellow CZcamsr, this video was a clever way to reach a lot of people through your channel. Also, as a fellow CZcamsr, my advice to you is do not let the success of this video sidetrack you from your real goal of creating music (if that is your real goal). Don't let algorithms dictate your creative flow.

"If you don't have lots of money, you don't deserve to make music." - Rick Beato, paraphrased.

this was hard bro

I agree that Rick Beato's takes are very biased by his history. The means of musical production are in the hands of more people. If music is worse it's due to either it not being promoted, or not being created at all, and it's quite obvious that the music industry promotes fewer artists. In addition, I would like to ad a point I RARELY if ever see: housing prices got too expensive for most musicians decades ago, and therefore the demise of bands rehearsing is because the space is too valuable, outside their budget. Boomers consciously "know" that that is happening, but they act as if it's not the reality. Back in the 60s through to the early 90s housing was quite affordable and musicians sharing rooms in a house were much more common, as were rehearsal spaces etc. If you're doing electronic music, that's not really a problem as you can just do it in your apartment (which many people are struggling to afford to rent recently). Anyways, good video.

I have a love/hate relationship with Rick Beato as well. When he's breaking down a part or going technical, it's useful. The 'kids these days' and 'music these days' bits are dull. Plenty of great music on Bandcamp and Bumblebee Radio if you are willing to 'do the work' and seek it out. You know, like when he was a kid? There has always been shitty pop music in his lifetime but that gets zero attention. I hit subscribe. You're interesting.

ugh the drum recording bit is SUCH gatekeeping from rick. Good music doesn't require all that. full stop.

Well I have to admit enjoy many of Rick Beato's videos, however I enjoyed this video as well. You seem very talented from the videos I checked out. I really liked the slide guitar too. I'm 58 and open to anything new, however it is more challenging to find than it was in the past at least to me. By the way a little off topic I love the music in the game Skyrim.

You have moments where you present good counterarguments to Rick, but in the end you sort of prove his point a little bit by using all of the tools he railed against, then making a very amateur-ish sounding song with it.

Three riders were approaching, and the wind began to howl.

Rick's first point (and it was in line with the context of the video being about the technological history of music) was about how easy the tech makes things now to record music. But his tutorials are pretty much all about music theory. These are two different things., so there's no irony there.

Both you and Rick are on youtube and that's all I need to know about either of you. It's on the internet - so what ? My personal opinion is that you used Rick's name because it's more likely to generate views for your channel - but SO WHAT ? Go downstairs and thrash the $hit out of your guitar/keyboard/drums/bass whatever. You want to hear good music ? Go form a band and make it yourself do it for fun who gives a $hit if nobody else likes it - playing music is supposed to be FUN. People can say whatever they want but bottom line is what's going on in your head and your ears. The real question is why did I waste two minutes commenting on a youtube video...

No need to go hard on people. Everything that happens in your life has been called from you and is here to show the way(s) for you to pave you own path towards advancing you understanding of music. Same goes for everyone. Keep making music and you will find out that what you actually do is reproducing life.

I come from nearly Rick's generation, but still an old git at 50. There is a lot I agree with Rick on - mic'ing amps takes skill, playing instruments takes another skill to do.. I think what Rick forgets is that modern musicians, not just "kids" as he sees them, have to do all the recording, playing, engineering, mixing and mastering. And we havent even talked about promoting the finished product. I think there is something for playing nearly in one take (people used to "punch in" back in the late 60s onwards, if they made a mistake). It adds a small random element which pricks the ear. Rick forgets The Beatles, The Who, etc didnt know music theory. You make a lot of good points.

I think you both have a point. And I actually don't think you are one of the "kids" Rick was talking about. I mean the music you presented here sounds fantastic. You really put the effort in.

"20-something with no perspective says Rick Beato is wrong, news at 11"

You just keep on doing what you do remembering, first and foremost, it's because it gives you pleasure. If anyone else likes it too then it's a bonus. Great video by the way.

Hey first I want to say good job on the video, here for the grind man, but I think there's a lot of twisting of the points rick is trying to make across. For reference, I'm not some old dude making videos with thousands of views. I'm a young musician who gets no views lmao. When rick is saying music is getting too easy, that doesn't mean hard= good. It means that the threshold of knowledge to be able to make just a decent song is way harder. Someone with almost no real knowledge of music can open up their DAW and with the right VSTs midi, plugins, and A.I. actually make a full song that's not completely bad. Even just 10-20 years ago, that just wasn't happening. The connection rick is trying to make is that 1. the music industry is bloated with so much mediocre music because too many people have the access to just make a song at a click of a button. 2. Most of the people making music don't have an incentive to become more knowledgeable because the problem is solved for them. If you're relying on technology to make music, then your limitations only cap to about the same level where the technology is. If you understand the knowledge behind it, the only limitations you have are set by yourself. Innovations propers due to people experimenting with the knowledge they built up. Music as a whole will lose that quality the more reliant on ease of access it becomes. Again, rick isn't saying "complex" chords = better music. Mostly because I'm sure rick knows that chords are equal. There are no "complex" chords, it's all about context, but there are cliche progressions, but no chords are "simple" or "complex". It comes down to a knowledge thing. The keyword is to what you said, "learn some guitar on a basic level". With a midi chord pack, even that "basic" level of learning becomes useless. I think the amp take highlights a lot of the issues people have with the rick video. You're consuming his take as if he's saying it's bad that you use amp plugins. Rick isn't giving his opinion on whether emulated amps are bad, he's giving he's using it to showcase the difference in access that people have now. When he says it doesn't allow for creativity, I assume he means from "limitation drives innovation" standpoint. As point to the fact, you'd never have all of those amps without the plugin, if you had money to get just one amp, you'd have to become creative in order to take it the full mileage and get different sounds out of it. In the same way how when you were a little boy, if you didn't have expensive toys, you can take a stick and turn it into a sword and get a lot of mileage out of it. I think there's a point on both sides in the since there's things creatively technology can let you do that's never possible in the real world. Rick isn't telling you to go out and buy a whole bunch of vinyls and saying it's bad if you don't, he's more or less just giving what he thinks is a consequence of having access to Spotify. The biggest thing I think people need to be careful of is understanding the difference between saying directly "This is bad" and saying "I think the cause and effect for this action is this consequence". I can see how it can be confusing, but If I told you I feel like because music is accessible, it's way harder to make money from music, that doesn't mean I think accessibility for music is bad, but I think the consequence of the accessibility might make fact jobs might be harder to find. The same thing with the drums argument. Rick isn't making a harder = better argument, he's just stating the fact of it being harder to record and you're interpreting him as meaning that it's better. Overall, I think the takes on both this and the Fantano video generally miss the point of the video rick made. The overall point of rick's video is that music is really easy to make which doesn't drive incentive for people to make great music, then he goes about showing different ways on how music is easier to make today. He's not making a "these things are bad point", but "things used to be harder", which you can't really argue. An actual rebuttal to rick's video would be one that argues that it's about the same or harder to make music today vs back then. I know my comment is overkill, I feel strong about the topic. Hope you have great success with your channel and music and know this comment isn't an attack.

Music isnt getting worse, radio is lol

Omg people here are so mean wth, your points are 100% valid. Most of what beato said is it’s easy to do music so now its bad, and he’s criticizing people themselves for using tools that exists instead of criticizing the industry for doing that, but that would get us nowhere. It’s more accessible and that’s a good thing sure there’s more shitty music, but there’s also more good music. The problem comes from what the industry promotes and that is not on us, but the greedy part of the music industry. So really rick is saying nothing. Ofc id love to have access to a full studio drum with mics, but i dont. I still want to compose and i wont wait around being older and having more money gotta put some practice in

I think him thinking things are getting too easy is an easy way out. There's so many creative things you can do with the tech that's coming out these days, I mean, not everyone has access to every kind of hardware you want to use

Great video! Love the editing and the tutorial/response to Rick Beato. Subscribed :)

The "kids these days don't practice" was such a dogshit take. He appealed to the most dumb anecdotal fallacy. Only because his friend does not see kids practicing does not mean kids are not practicing music. Just let look at the stats of those music tutorials. They get millions of views. Then let's look at the artists: JD and Domi, Tim Henson, Juya Shin, Benjamin Grosvenor, Sunga Jung, Jan Lisicki, Metro Boomin, Ariana Grande, Taylor Swift, Sam Smith, Lorde, Daya and so on. Multi award-winning artists who are extremely young under 33 years old. We are living the times of musical geniuses like Jacob Collier, Fred Again, and Finneas O'connell and Billie Eilish. Music, like any other art skill requires that the person has an interest for it. And only 10% of the population in any part of the world has an interested for either music, painting, or writing. It is like that today, and it was like that way back in the day too. Theres is not any more or any less interest for music.

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Yeah, totally agree on at least a few of these points. Like the amp stuff. Amps are expensive, and people don't all live in suburban homes with garages like he did when he grew up, when you live in a city apartment you need to be able to play stuff with headphones (silently). Having giant energy-consuming amps is, well when you need to go loud.

Your video was suggested to me. Very good points. I’m a fan of Rick’s videos but his thing often is “Music today sucks because people don’t know music theory, by the way if you wanna learn music theory buy my book”. 😂

I always agree with Rick, sometimes partially, even been young, but when i watched this video i really though that he was only trolling, the whole video feels like a joke lol

Valiant attempt at criticism, good insight into your production process, but I think Rick is still ultimately right. Music is a poor imitation of what it once was. Given the advances of technology, the saturation of music into the market and the sheer ubiquity of sound - think gyms, headphones everywhere, cafes, bars, cars - the value has shifted from the core of the music itself to content, speed of production, cheapness and the celebrity around the product. The way we consume music is an interesting one. It is literally background noise. Think about how often you listen to music, not as the object itself, but as a secondary or an adjuct to some other task you are doing (walking, shopping, exercise, driving, cooking, studying, scrolling through your phone, working)...this would have been unheard to a very large extent before the era of headphones, ipods, spotfies etc. It inherently devalues the product whereby a simple pulse - rather than rhythm - is all that is reuqired, i.e., your trap musif examples. Background music does not demand complex rhythms or ideas, only simple, repetitive loops - thus it's easily consumed, and easily produced, which lowers the marginal costs, but boosts the profits. Like most art, as music becomes more and more democraticsed, meaning it reaches a wider audience, it moves from the complex to the simple, from Bach to the Beatles, from counter point with 5 voices, to 3 harmonic changes and a static melody line. Similar with literature/books, Shakespear to Harry Potter...this is not to say that complex interesting ideas are not out there, it is just to say that the locus of musical focus is with the simple, the simple, repetitive music with the monotone melody and repetitive beat is the rule not the exception. Here is this devaluing, race to the bottom in music. And finally, as technology and a market advances, it becomes harder and harder to differentiate oneself, leading to bizarre self parody. It happened in the art world, where artists began displaying urinals (Duchamp), splashing random spirals and dashes of paint on a canvasing and calling it profound (Pollock). All this in a bid to push boundaries, becoming parodic because, apparently, everything had been said before. It's there in music in the trap and rap stuff, no singing, no harmony, dull spoken voices, the same crude offensive language called edgy, discussing "W.A.P", all these examples of an industry putting a premium on shock value, clickbait music, more a joke /sneer - like Duchamp did with his urinal - than actual musicality. Once again, devaluing music.

I agree with what you say but you didn't have to lay down dani californias last dance

on double speed it sounds like elvis costello had a baby with stairway to heaven

I don't ask my grandma about music, so idk why people care about this guy's musical opinions...

Rick was right, but he is WAAAYYYY too late. He listens to dumb dumb music and thinks its interesting. Music started it's true decline the minute that the printing press made reproduction of music easy and available to the lowly poors. If you didn't hand write your melodies, or have them reproduced via scribe for your musicians to perform- you are not making music worthy of listening to. And even worse! once recording became available- you didn't even need to pay a real musician to hear a piece performed. you could just spin up a cylinder of wax or lacquer and hear the same performance over and over again. Heck- nobody needs to learn to play instruments anymore because every town could just have music delivered for free over the airwaves with the devils radio machine. Literally every generation feels like they are living in the best most interesting times, and they are correct. The problem is that the times keep getting interestinger and betterer, but the generations get older and less interested in learning about new tools or sorting through all the crap that is available to find the gems. Young people have time and energy to sort though the mess to find the good stuff. Old folks have jobs and other responsibilites and interests pulling their attention from the work it takes to innovate or find the worthy innovation. Except David Bowie- he stayed interesting and innovative until his last breath. When Rick was a kid, there was lots of crap on the radio, and most pop music objectively sucked by all standards. The Osmonds, and the Partridge Family made lots of money selling crap- The Beatles and Zepplin were important because it was unlike all the other stuff being pushed at the time. There was also a lot of really amazing stuff that nobody heard until years after the artist died or quit music. just like today. But tody, everyone can play guitar if they want to- guitars are cheap and music education is free. it is really just up to the musician to choose to spend the time and energy on what they are interested in. Also the average musician also has to learn about electrical wiring, software troubleshooting, and how effects chains work. Rick is way better at guitar and producing music than you- but he also has a million dollars worth of gear, and 3x your entire lifespan in experience making and playing music. Easy make it so there IS more crap out there- but also makes it so that there is way more good stuff too. it is easier for crappy music to happen, but also easier for talented and interesting creators to release stuff whenever they want. Sorry for the essay- I am a little younger than rick, but I reject the old man drive to shake fist at clouds about the kids and I have some feelings.

​ @prodtrentjisung I believe that the point Beato fail to pass on is that music being abundant kinda makes it disposable. What I think he is trying to say is that when you only had a new album to listen to each month,, you either listened to it deeply, or you went back to the few others ones you had, so the theory is that the few music you had became much more meening ful. Nowadays, you give a track 5 sec to decide if you like it or not, and if not you have all the music in history to listen to, which means you spend much less time on each song, but you even feel the urge to swipe to listen to all that is at your fingertips. A while ago, some people introduced the concept of slow listening, which is a sort of musical analog to the slow food movement. To summarize the idea, it's just "less but deeper", you artificially limit the amount of music you have access to, but when you listen to it, you don't do anything at the same time and listen to the whole project in one sitting without skipping. I don't think that a concept is better than the other, each person can decide what works better for them, but it is important to know that there are drawbacks to abundance.

i think rick did something good though, he started a conversation about it. Honestly because of rick i think people now feel less insecure about the modern way of making music because of all the backlash he got

He’s not wrong, he thinks today’s popular music is severely lacking (which is backed by the numbers) and he likes to come up with ideas as to WHY it might be. He doesn’t state anything as fact, and that’s why he can’t be wrong

things are getting "too easy" in that you can throw shit together and move onto the mixing / mastering phase before you actually take the time to develop your musical ideas. there's all kinds of ways to counter this if you want to, but the net effect on music is that the industry favors people who focus more on their branding and image than actually spending time to have a musical identity. rick beato is still kinda wrong, but he's the most wrong when you take his arguments in the most superficial and discharitable way possible.

Beato is putting forward a disingenuous narrative for the clicks in the failed guise of reconciling the fact that popular music is no longer his music. But who cares he can yell at clouds all he wants its not changing anything as he is losing his cultural cache. The more important thing here is you Trent. This video is amazing and shows such promise, well done. You are going to be a great addition to the CZcams stars of the future. Well done and keep it up!

I follow Rick and I don't really know why because I hate grunge and all that 90s alternative rock AND nu metal shit he thinks is equally amazing as anything else. I think he's retarded in that aspect, like so Nirvana is amazing, and so is Marty Friedman and Bach and Slipknot or whatever? I think he's confused in his nostalgia. And I like how he had Vai and Satch on... But didn't have them fuckin play anything or talk about music theory or guitar. What a waste really he's all over the place.

I don't think he's aiming at creatives or hobbyists. Perhaps a little closer to artists like Taylor Swift, who has the attention of the entire world and releases Fortnight that quite literally repeats C D Bm Em for four minutes.

Your song sounds like Stairway to Heaven. Also, you are criticizing Rick Beato, yet the quality of his production is much better. To the comments that are saying Rick Beato is not a songwriter, that is completely untrue.

People who make videos like this simply don't get the point. Just accept the fact that the majority of mainstream music has gotten progressively worse and more mediocre through out the years. Nowadays you see entire teams of like 9 songwriters for most pop "icons" that just end straight up copying older songs or writing some of the most uninspired (basic) songs and call it a day, why? Because they know the average consumer, who are mostly people who don't have any type of musical knowledge just don't care and are basically deaf when it comes to music. It's not that hard to understand.

I'll give to you that RIck failed miserably to get his points across in that video... But that doesn't mean his points are not valid. For instance, you said something along the lines of "I listen to a ton of old music, I would have to buy 100 albums to listen to all of that"... The point was that *you weren't supposed to have access to all that music at all*: "Back in my day" we used to have to tape record music of the radio, go to stores and preview records of the bands we knew we liked or where within that genre, tape those records and trade tapes with friends, which was how we discovered new bands. There was this entire social aspect driven by scarcity that instilled in us a certain band/genre loyalty... This is the reason why, for instance, punks and metalheads started wearing band t-shirts, band patches on their jackets, and some even tattooing band names and logos onto themselves. And, IMO, this is what made music into the cornerstone of Western culture: It really did bring people together, going to concerts was the most important thing in a young person's life right after relationships and sex.

I think you're points are valid. You have a great perspective from someone who is young in the business and doesn't have much money. However, I think Rick still makes a lot of great points as well. My understanding is that Rick is talking about the multi-billion dollar businesses that are using simple basic beats all of the time, and that it's disappointing that companies/people in position to inovate choose not to. Therefore, all music is just sounding too similar and it's boring. Taylor Swift is the prime example. Every album when she started were different from each other. But for the past several albums all of them sound the same. She could inovate like she used to, but chooses not to. And instead is just adding to the collection of saturated music. That's why she can throw out 50 songs in a year. ....But it works. We all understand it makes money. It's just disappointing.

Nicely put man. Appreciate hearing your perspective vs what I agree is an outdated/untrue opinion.

People shitting their pants from Rick Beato but he is a very closed-minded snob who has zero songwriting credits. I don't mean to trash him but I was exactly the same as him, that "music should be complex and interesting and pop music is shit because they only use simple chords"... Then I started to analyze and write pop songs and realized how wrong I was. Keep in mind, he is trashing highly successful songwriters while he has literally ZERO songwriting credits! He never ever wrote a song, yet he is stating things about chord progressions and melodies - things that are completely false... He mentioned in one of his videos something like "melodies should follow chord tones" - which proves he is clueless. He has "theoretical" knowledge about music, but ZERO real life experience COMPOSING ORIGINAL music. Sure, he can ARRANGE other people's song, but that's a completely different skill, and much easier than writing original songs. Not to mention, he clearly doesn't understand modern songs, and comparing today's songs to old songs, which is pointless and dumb.

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for your sound selection what kind of sounds do you go for/ how do you find them?