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it's a tonal inversion...but there's also an augmented version in the 2nd violin

All gobbledygook. Can't stand people who waffle and don't come to the point. Get ON with it! I doubt that Bach would have had any idea what she was talking about either with her references to de Kusa and Keplar and "the mind". Bach was a working musician and he had no time for "dry mathematical stuff" (CPE Bach). He had a job to do and he got on with it, for which we can only be eternally grateful. And what was the point of the three sacks of potatoes sitting next to her? Some kind of silent human counterpoint?

This is hands down the greatest video I have ever watched. This is the fourth time I have watched it with rapt attention, which, by the way, is the equally great example this video presents us with. The way this brilliant speaker is LISTENED to is the best example of human behavior. I wish this video would be shown to all young students in school so they can see humanity at its best. Bach is the genius that makes this possible. The level of philosophy that this presentation elucidates is human thought at its loftiest accomplishment. Thank you! You have raised me to a level of my possible nature that I had not done on my own. A true giving experience of the highest possible ethical and intelligent interaction. Mind!

I believe that Mozart would literally copy Bachs works in order to study them, something we sometimes do today in order to scrutinize what exactly is happening in the music. I love how we are not much different today. The idea of setting organ fugees to strings id a great idea since it is often even a challenge to hear all the parts on a piano. Strings, with more easily discernible voicings, really allow you to hear/experience all the nuance that i think would be harder on an organ, which would just hit you in the face lol. And for the salon studio, would be practically less violent lol. Very interesting breakdown here, would like to see more.

This is ridiculous! AKA claptrap.

what the actual feck?

Dave is the man,

The written statement in the beginning couldn't be more arrogant. There's multiple ways to appreciate and relate to music, many of them happening simultaneously. Eurocentric fuckery in a nutshell.

I've never heard anybody allege that prince hits women

The overall explanation of Bach's method was ok I guess... but a 'man' would have done a much better job.... obviously.... I think that this dingy broad needs to grab her flute and hurry back to band camp....

yeah rip and shit

Steve Albini was incredibly genuine in an industry that often celebrates phonies and mediocrity. So sad he's no longer with us but I'm grateful for all the wonderful music & wisdom he gave us. RIP

Very interesting

What is she talking about??

Nobody cares about Hollywood. Nobody cares about major labels. Nobody cares about mainstream radio crap. Steve was the real deal and knew the score. Hollywood is over. Thank the Lord.

Great assessment of How It Was vs. How It Is. Excruciating to listen to, because he's reading a prepared text word-for-word -- I finally had to skip ahead a few minutes -- but he's right, in that musicians are better off today than under the Label Regime. They still don't make much money, but for different reasons, and all the BS in the middle is pretty much gone. Maybe that's good!

''lol, this s*cks''

RIP.

most labels = scam

legend rip

This is a very nice lecture, but I’m not a fan of how Bach’s genius here is presented as omnipotent or unachievable. He learned composition through the study of basso continuo/partimento with his brother. He then took this knowledge and later expanded upon it.

"We're going to be looking at Ba...HCQUE"

Any idea who that presenter is?

Grandiloquence

Bach's music is very simply explained: it's the holy divine geometry in music.

the amount of nonsense from the lady is outstanding!! YES, mathematics is everywhere, but that does not mean KEPLER has ANYTHING to do with music harmony, music experience, etc, etc. It is OUTRAGEOUS to have someone distorting history so shamelessly. BACH did not START anything. Music is a continuum. Counterpoint was not invented by JSBACH. Thinking music in terms of independent voices was not invented by JSBACH either. It was a process. There is no BACH if there is no Machaut. There is no Machaut if there are not early medieval composers. BACH did not invent the FUGUE technique. It is mediocre and IGNORANT to think that Bach is the beginning of anything.

I saw the far right wing organization "Larouche PAC" on the screen in the background and immediately stopped. I already know a minute in that they are going to make sweeping universal claims about art and how "today's society is not a sophisticated as yesterday's." or liken common people or pop music to something that is dumbing down the masses. I'm done with this elitist bullshit in classical music. This is Classical music's struggle to stay relevant, Classical musicians and educators need to stop aligning ourselves with these charlatans that know nothing about the history of this music, and live in a world where we realize that art and culture are varied and that there is no objective truth in pleasing patterns that differ from culture to culture.

why does this string quartet sound horribly out of tune?

What is this a recording of? I wish there was more information about who these people are and when this was recorded.

Well.... actually a pretty good presentation....

Didn’t LaRouch run for president a bunch of times?

Amazing instrument and sound. I wish I could hear the cello version, and also a whole ensemble.

this is very disappointing and frankly incoherent, don’t bother listening. the speaker doesn’t seem to understand music history at all; Bach’s methods were similar to his contemporaries and had nothing to do with “Kuza” (whoever that is) or Kepler. Also, a lot of music then WAS composed starting with a melody above a figured bass. And her fugue “analysis” is ponderous and unenlightening. i’m (seriously!) a big fan of pretentious overly intellectual analysis of fugues but this explanation goes nowhere

3:00 complete and utter nonsense. Music hjad nothing to do with it. Especially western Music. The "discoveries" were the result of the translation movement directly preceding from Arabic.

Solid State electronics are very vulnerable to radiation. Vacuum tabes are not. That gives them a use.

What she says around 20:40 is simply false. She says the theme is compressed to just for notes, we alledgedly hear just the four notes of the head of the theme and our mind adds the rest of the theme to the whole of it. But actually the theme is always complete, it's just the entrances of the theme following each other in shorter distances, what is called "Engführung" or a stretto. Our mind doesn't have to add the "missing" notes of the theme, they are actually being played. My problem with the whole lecture is that she is presenting an analysis of this fugue that has already been analyzed multiple times for decades as if she was presenting some revolutionary thoughts, but she's not.

I absolutely hate the recording of Bach's fugue with this aweful, utterly unmusical string quartet. It's a lesson about how to butcher music.

My mind literally exploded

Sounds out of tune

inspiring

Thank you Andy, excellent work, great graphics, especially the recap.Thanks for the thorough *harmonic and rhythmic analysis. December 12th 2023

This analysis of music of Bach is completely removed from the integrative approaches he had to music, despite the complexity of all of the means of his compositional devices. That is how music of Bach had been routinely distorted from its primary purpose that Bach himself outlined very clearly - to serve as the vessel for expression of emotional feelings. Many Bach scholars forget about this because since childhood everyone had been required to withhold emotions in his music for rather irrelevant reason - to replicate his time’s dominant harpsichord and clavichord. And biological facts abut his using Pianofort had been hidden from most textbooks, fooling generations of musicians into mechanical approach to the music that is emotionally complex and satisfying as well as intellectually

Kepler may have been engaged into mathematical values of suns, but Bach had not been involved into these mathematical concepts. Mozart studied with the son of J.S.Bach during childhood.

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Where is the full video of this series? I cannot seem to identify LPAC tv or the persons in this video.

Beautiful!!

can i use the comments as my response sheet?

Advanced Fugue form. 😁 Bach was a master.

This lady is incredible.

It took me the whole length of the presentation, but I THINK I'm getting some of what she's pointing out here. There's indeed a strong element in the Bach Fugue and I'd say Bach's melodic element in general, that speaks as a piece of art, or even as its own language, that reaches our consciousness as that, and not so much as a listening of music. We're "hearing" the sound but processing some creation that's reaching our minds almost in the way that mystery school, or esoteric, symbolism effects us. Where the material used for making the "symbol" was not the primary purpose of the creation, but the effect it's having on our conscious (or in these cases subconscious) mind is the true esoteric meaning or the true created art. Not the physical material used for making the vehicle that sends such a message to our minds. If I'm on to something here, or at least getting it in some way, then it would make a lot of sense to me as to why we find evidence of people's thought process and learning abilities showing measurable changes in outcome when listening to things like baroque music while studying, for instance, and reported effects of calming, healing, and even broadening artistic creativity in many people. The "messages" they're getting (or that we the listeners are receiving) is something esoteric that isn't present in a physical form from just examining ONE line of a particular instrument, or from focusing solely on the "music" of any particular melodic line in any of the thematic elements. It's like a hidden message talking to a part of our brains that isn't necessarily operating while we're functioning from our objective consciousness. Even though I'm displaying a poor effort here in order to share what I think I'm getting out of this--through the analysis action--I truly believe I was thinking this way in some fashion about Bach's music for a long time. I just didn't attempt to unpack it in all these elemental divisions the way I'm seeing some of it now. This was helpful. I really wish there was more to this presentation here. If anyone reading this has ever read or studied Rudolf Steiner, you know where I'm going with this, and he has in many ways written and lectured about receiving elements in the material form this way before. I'm going to dig into my references and see if he ever used Bach in particular to get the messages of some lectures across in the past. Very well done here! I liked this a lot. I'll try to see what effects have changed in my perception now when I'm practicing Bach. ~JSV