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VRR Flicker On OLEDs Is A Real Problem
Though their premium picture quality, high-end feature set, and of course, instantaneous response times are so enticing as is the on-the-box guarantee that it all works as its supposed to… They still flicker. In this video, we’re investigating the issue of VRR flicker on monitors, with a focus on OLEDs. We’ll look at the causes, the effects, and what trade-offs you’ll have to make to try and fix the flick!
Chapters:
00:00 Intro
00:47 VRR Flicker Causes
01:54 Effects
02:37 VESA standards
04:17 Capturing Flicker (Our Test)
07:59 Trade Off Solutions
10:24 Conclusion
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Komentáře

  • @a.akacic
    @a.akacic Před 2 hodinami

    Mini LED is better than Oled and QDOled anyway.

  • @phil84761
    @phil84761 Před 9 hodinami

    Replaced a 9yr old Samsung and hadn’t realised the screen had taken on a blue tint until I’d set up the new one

  • @Mck559
    @Mck559 Před dnem

    Anyway, thank you for talking about this unpleasant problem that nobody in the industry is part of.

  • @Mck559
    @Mck559 Před dnem

    I have the same problem with my OLED but still in VRR 120z when I go to 60z the flicker disappears.

  • @JumpingJakF1ash
    @JumpingJakF1ash Před 2 dny

    This one of the many reasons i went with Mini-LED. I don't get any VRR flicker, even when local dimming is on. I hate OLED bias that seems to be everywhere on tech channels now. OLED is flawed technology, otherwise the manufactures wouldn't have burn-in prevention on the TV's. No one should have to baby-sit their TV. Buy a decent Mini LED TV, it'll last longer, is brighter, has better HDR and you won't need to worry about burn-in. I have my Gaming PC connected to my Mini LED and it's been brilliant. And for movies with good local dimming, you'd be extremely hard pressed to tell the difference between OLED/Mini LED. It'll last me until Micro LED becomes smaller and cheaper to produce.

  • @spyofborg
    @spyofborg Před 2 dny

    Would love to see the electricity bill :D

  • @deadman8284
    @deadman8284 Před 2 dny

    Vrr gsync is completly broken things from born. We nees new working thing

  • @deadman8284
    @deadman8284 Před 2 dny

    I have vrr gsync flickering on my lg c3 48. But rtings says it is flicker free.

  • @mohammedgawish3546
    @mohammedgawish3546 Před 3 dny

    Watching this video in 144p thanks for reviewing

  • @sata1207
    @sata1207 Před 3 dny

    I have a phd in astronomy and am a oled enthusiast ..but did not understand much ..idiots

  • @samh5886
    @samh5886 Před 3 dny

    How big the variance/fluctuation in frame rate is necessary for this to be noticeable? Or is it more of percentage thing that depend on the maximum framerate of the monitor/TV?

  • @saadshafique-mj4dm
    @saadshafique-mj4dm Před 3 dny

    Dear Admin, I hope this message finds you well. I'm reaching out to explore the possibility of collaborating on a guest post for your platform. I believe our content aligns well with your audience's interests, and a guest post could mutually benefit both our platforms. Looking forward to discussing this further at your earliest convenience. Best regards, saad awan

  • @mohamedsabri2730
    @mohamedsabri2730 Před 3 dny

    I have a feeling that VRR on OLEDs may hasten burn in.

  • @ytuser12357
    @ytuser12357 Před 4 dny

    Do OLED TVs have the same problem?

  • @lowzyyy
    @lowzyyy Před 4 dny

    My monitor work more than 8 hour a day. That monitor would be dead in one year. To pay so much for such a trash, i am very sceptical

  • @SuperEjizz
    @SuperEjizz Před 4 dny

    ive had this issue for many years, causing me to disable VRR up until recently when i upgraded to a LG27gr95qe with hdmi 2.1. havent had the issue since

  • @shirleysiu5958
    @shirleysiu5958 Před 4 dny

    Thanks for your hard work. Other reviewers only mentioned how beautiful oled monitors were and never mentioned their intrinsic problems. They are not real reviewers, but just some paid advertisers

  • @guily6669
    @guily6669 Před 4 dny

    My friend has a Hisense 65inch U8HQ with like a year or less and the entire TV is now uniformly blue without spots or anything, just crazy COLD, I reset the TV but sadly it's really kaput, even the warmest option is very cold blue. I'm more inclined to OLED, it seems QD-LCD are being a huge cancer too even worse than OLED... ps: I have a Hisense 55inch U8KQ, hope it doesn't go puff or I will be mad🤬

  • @markmmm1737
    @markmmm1737 Před 5 dny

    I still have a hx850 from 2012 to my eyes it is still as good as day 1. I would loveto do a side by side comparison with a new unused one.

  • @MikeG-cd8vb
    @MikeG-cd8vb Před 5 dny

    I used the s95b as my main computer desktop for 2 years. Max brightness. Pixel shift and auto dim on low. I finally have a light blue burn in on an all white background. It is hard to see. Time to retire it to only movies now. Got a mini led monitor now that the other tech has caught up. Half the price, brighter, great darks. No more annoying pixel shift. Thanks for all your testing. Because of your videos, I ran pixel refresh and enabled burn in reduction modes.

  • @kreftegleichgewicht

    Pro talking. I like it. Nuanced but not overplayed like the "little brat" way of talking wich seems "in" at the moment. And yet natural. Sympathetic but also knowing. And that is as a girl. (When often this is very hard for many of them to pull off, cause of how their voices sound like.) Very well done... I will go and see what else goes on this Channel.

  • @Ray_2097
    @Ray_2097 Před 6 dny

    I remember RTINGS without stupid faces on thumbnails...what the hell?

  • @didney_worl172
    @didney_worl172 Před 6 dny

    Did you test with AMD and Nvidia graphics card? Is anyone of them better?

  • @IntrovertAlert
    @IntrovertAlert Před 6 dny

    Great job Rtings!

  • @ElsweyrDiego
    @ElsweyrDiego Před 6 dny

    for those who thinks projectors need to evolve more, just think about the best cinemas in the world, for example IMAX screens, they use the exact same technologi our laser projector at home uses. the blacks will never be really black in the cinema too, it's more like an IPS screen. and guess what? an 300" IMAX cinema is the more immersive thing in the world, even with very poor contrast ratio, not your infinite contrast oled in your room!

  • @ElsweyrDiego
    @ElsweyrDiego Před 6 dny

    this series is just making me not buy an OLED screen. i will sitck with Mini Led with IPS panels. the best overall.

    • @sonyx4500
      @sonyx4500 Před 6 dny

      Yes its better than VA. Better Response Time, wide Viewing Angles and no black Smearing

  • @TheRedComet1821
    @TheRedComet1821 Před 7 dny

    These tests are the only CNN viewership

  • @MotoCat91
    @MotoCat91 Před 8 dny

    YES, now I have evidence I can point to while I insist to those around me that the flicker is real and I'm not crazy! I was really hoping the list of solutions included more than just disabling VRR or capping frame rates though.. I've had an LG 55B9 for years now and had to disable VRR pretty early on due to flicker. Since then I just run the display at a fixed 120Hz with various combinations of vsync/fps caps depending on what works best in each game

  • @Kaudrag33
    @Kaudrag33 Před 8 dny

    On my side, the flickering is still there (Asus rog swift pg32ucdm). Even with a capped framerate and a stable frametime graph. For example forza horizon 5 with max settings 4k dlss quality and fg on. I'm getting 170-240 fps. I capped the framerate to 120 and it stays stable at 120 with no drops or spikes. But the flickering is still there and in some scenarios it's more intensive than uncapped. Interesting is, there are two different types of flickering. The first is always in darker areas with or without a capped framerate. It's not as bright as the second but it's always there and it flickers fastly. The second is a very bright flickering. It appears in longer intervals than the other one but it's much brighter and a lot more visible than the other one and it appears in darker areas too. Capped framerate doesn't help either. Another example is avatar frontiers of pandora. In darker areas and corners there is the bright flickering. I noticed something in the monitors OSD. If you look at the framerate the monitor shows you, you'll see that they're sometimes jumping around. In avatar frontiers of pandora I tried capping them to 60. They are always on 60 and no drops or spikes what so ever (checked with msi afterburner). But the monitors OSD says that the fps sometimes (not always when it flickers) goes up to 100+ and go back down to 60 FPS. Same thing in forza horizon 5. Fps capped at 120 but the monitors framerate jumps up to 200+ and go back down to 120. First thought it could be LFC but on 120 fps? Not sure. If anyone know something how I could fix that. Feel free to message me here.

  • @rkirsch264
    @rkirsch264 Před 8 dny

    The results are clear.... Never watch CNN.

  • @haewymetal
    @haewymetal Před 8 dny

    Every VRR flicker video only shows loadingscreens not actual gameplay. So is it an issue or not?

  • @maplestory7940
    @maplestory7940 Před 8 dny

    Saying IPS and TN are expensive and might price you out, but then telling people to go for OLED AND upgrading your rig to the max? If anyone is going for an OLED they better be mega rich, if not, just go for a humble mid range IPS 24'-27', or TN if you main FPS games, those 2 are the safest choice and very good for a budget build. VAs? those are absolute garbage in my opinion. there're tons of issues with VA like artifacts and burn ins, plus I feel dizzy looking at a VA panel, mainly because of the artifacts, but that's just me. Safest bet is to go to a store that will display all their monitors in a dark room, go spend 30min to an hour looking at all the monitors and pick what you are most comfortable with that matches your PC build(everyone's preference is different), and of course, within your price range. Use RTings reviews to give you a decent starting point to narrow it down to maybe 5-10 monitors to pick from.

  • @adriankoch964
    @adriankoch964 Před 9 dny

    RTings is a godsend. Manufacturer interest groups subverted most if not all official seals from HDMI, DP and VESA consortiums, just so they can sell crap hardware with whatever label people will pay extra for. (See bandwidth controversy on HDMI and DP versions, or any HDR label that is on IPS displays)

  • @Kaudrag33
    @Kaudrag33 Před 9 dny

    ​​I have the asus Rog Swift PG32UCDM and it flickers. Capped framerate for example to 60fps. Flat framerate and frametime graph. No FPS fluctuations. Still... Flickering in darker areas that are high contrasted. I bought it because some reviewers said that it doesn't flicker... And now I'm thinking about sending it back to asus. I think this is not okay... To sell a monitor and say it's gsync compatible (that means no flickering too). Reviewers say there is no flickering but there is! Question to you guys. I'm using windows 10 Pro with an rtx 4090. Could windows 10 be the problem? So is an upgrade to windows 11 a fix? There is even flickering if I'm getting 180 fps constantly (forza horizon 5 max settings 4k dlss quality and fg on) and when I limit them to 120, there is still flickering. In all games capping the fps makes the flickering worse. I also tried setting the Framerate of the monitor on 120 in windows settings. But that makes the colors and blacks washed out and doesn't fix the flickering. For example. Go and drive a supra mk4 in forza horizon 5. Drive a little bit... There is flickering all over the fitting. Stop the car and look at the fitting like the steering wheel... It's flickering. Now turn Gsync off... It's gone... BUT I want to use gsync so turning it off is no solution! If anyone knows something how to fix the flickering with the asus Rog Swift PG32UCDM... Please message me here.

  • @mhnoni
    @mhnoni Před 9 dny

    The new ROG STRIX OLED XG27AQDMG claims it has VRR flicker-free, that's nice to hear. showing the problem so these companies fix it.

  • @mhnoni
    @mhnoni Před 9 dny

    looks like Rtings just found out why some OLEDs give people headache, can't believe they do all this and share it with us for free. what a time to be alive! Thank you very much Rtings.

  • @michaelkreitzer1369

    Thank you so much for covering this! It's about damn time somebody did. Sadly, it's too late for me. I'm out a grand because nobody would freaking talk about this, and I had to learn the hard way how unbelievably bad OLED's look with VRR.

  • @l3xforever
    @l3xforever Před 9 dny

    700 hours is just two months of normal usage >_>

  • @velez910
    @velez910 Před 10 dny

    Yeah my flickers but I ignore it

  • @WillFuI
    @WillFuI Před 10 dny

    Is it only vrr or is this including all adaptive r refresh rate tech? When useing hdmi I noticed the flicker but display port I didn’t

  • @XxRobLucianXx
    @XxRobLucianXx Před 11 dny

    Looking at TV ratings, you guys are the only people watching CNN.

  • @panikk2
    @panikk2 Před 11 dny

    excellent video. keep this momentum going

  • @Xsetsu
    @Xsetsu Před 11 dny

    Nice video but why would you not lock your frame rates and/or turn on Vsync in your hardware's software (not in game which can have problems) it almost always eliminates the problem. I haven't seen a case where it can't be eliminated. In fact, Digital Foundry has mentioned this over and over to people over the last few years. This may be a problem on consoles idk, but I fail to see why it is such a problem on PC when you have far more control over the situation. I run a LG Oled (C1) and a Samsung VA panel (57") both on a 4090 and never have the problem.

    • @RTINGScomRD
      @RTINGScomRD Před 11 dny

      Our experts are happy to answer any in-depth questions via our forums on our website! www.rtings.com/forums

    • @DrakonR
      @DrakonR Před 10 dny

      Because people don't want busy work just to hopefully fix the issue. The flickering never went away regardless of what I did. Didn't have nearly as much flickering on my LG C1. OLED monitors just don't cut it yet.

  • @Optimus_Bull
    @Optimus_Bull Před 11 dny

    Hm, I recently got the Aorus FO32U2P. I haven't played much PC games on it yet with VRR enabled, but I have played a lot of Ghost of Tsushima on my PS5. And haven't noticed any VRR flicker there. This may be more because it's on the PS5 and the frame rate in that game likely never gets low enough to show the flicker.

  • @igelbofh
    @igelbofh Před 12 dny

    Do t use VRR. It's somewhere between placebo to marginal improvement. Most of the time it's like the first dose of a drug dealer.

  • @MauiWowie51
    @MauiWowie51 Před 12 dny

    wanna see if your monitor flickers? play stellaris.

  • @LelandPratt-nw9ix
    @LelandPratt-nw9ix Před 12 dny

    Got a couple old plasma TV’s. So what if they use a little more juice, I love them. The only problem so far is the remotes.

  • @DumDumN1
    @DumDumN1 Před 12 dny

    Ive been a proud owner of the AW2725DF for 3 months now and I haven't experienced any flickering yet in any game or in any other situation.