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Hallo, bei dieser Anwendung dämpft einerseits das Seil die Kräfte und andererseits läuft noch etwas Seil in das Abseilgerät (auch wenn der Prusik gespannt ist). Die Kräfte beim „Fallenlassen“ in das Abseilgerät lagen bei unseren Versuchen unter 3 kN: edelrid.com/de-de/wissen/knowledge-base/seilverbindungsknoten-beim-abseilen-vergleich Deshalb sind die auftretenden Kräfte weit weg von den Festigkeiten von Schlingen in dieser Anwendung.

The FUSE is a back up device for industrial work, and is only certified for EN 12841 A and EN 353-2 use.

Good that you want to clarify that, because in my opinion you are drawing the wrong conclusions ("for us all") out of this as well as missing the most important ones. But I try to explain in my words: - Severed ropes due to sharp objects are not generally the leading cause of accidents, but sharp edges are the number one cause for all accidents due to a severed rope. - The main take-away from Episode 2 is the influence of weight in a rope system on the overall safety regarding sharp edges. It shows, that independent on how safe your rope might be or not be, if you have the chance to lower the weight applied to it, the gains in safety will be much greater than any cut resistant characteristics of your rope. - The intention of Episode 3 ist to show, that we urgently need a way to quantify cut resistance of ropes as currently climbers can not judge the safety of their rope in regards to sharp objects with the data they get provided. And staying with that last point. Your shown frustration of not knowing what rope might be the best for your purposes in regards to sharp objects is exactly the point made. And we would like to change this. Maybe we just differ in the approach here. For one, we put 6 years of research into building a test-setup that now, for the first time, provides the possibility to quantify this characteristic for ropes (not as trivial as it might seem, but you saw Episode 1 to understand this). We also provide the cut values within our own rope range for all our dynamic ropes. So within our rope range you can perfectly see which would suit you best. And we also have used the knowledge we gained in those years of research to built products that are perfectly optimized towards the characteristic in question. What this whole topic is to us here in the development though, is anything but a marketing stunt. We strongly believe in the importance of this proven number one risk for rope failure and will do anything that this is taken seriously and exactly not as a promotion. If we were to publish the values of all our competitors, it would not only be an unfair and disrespectful behaviour towards our competitors, it would then really look like and be a marketing stunt! Knowledge Base videos should be as neutral a source of information as possible and not a product marketing tool! The content comes from the development team, not from any of our commercial departments. And with this in mind, our approach in this matter is to talk about practical implications of our research as well as raise awareness for the urgent need of such a test. We are actively seeking dialogue with our competitors on a factual level and in a working group within the UIAA currently that has been set up specifically for this purpose, we are trying to develop a standard that will subsequently apply to everyone and which will make information about a cut value not only visible then but also objectively reliable for the user. Translated with DeepL.com (free version)

Seile, bei denen Mantel und Kern vernäht sind, gibt es nämlich nicht. Wir haben Seile, bei denen Mantel und Kern verklebt und Seile bei denen Mantel und Kern verflochten sind.

You can find all details, including a step-by-step guide, here: edelrid.com/eu-en/vertical-freedom/edelrid-news/tips-ideas-knowledge/creative-rope-mat Here is the link to the pattern: edelrid.com/007-landing-pages/articles-and-news/seilteppich/Seilteppich_pattern.pdf

The dorsal and sternal attachment points (EN 361) are only for fall arrest systems and not for positioning. Only the lateral attachment points (EN 358) may be used for positioning on the FLEX PRO. For further information please visit: avs.edelrid.com/images/attribut/54594_GAL_FlexPro_FlexProPlus_PART_I_PART_II_ANSICHT.pdf

Hello, @@edelrid Thank you for your response. I appreciate the clarification regarding the usage of the dorsal and sternal attachment points on the FLEX PRO harness. However, I would like to bring to your attention some information from your own documentation which seems to present a different perspective. In the document titled "54594_GAL_FlexPro_FlexProPlus_PART_I_PART_II_ANSICHT," on page 34, point 11 (STERNAL), it states: "The sternal attachment may be used as an alternative fall arrest attachment in applications where the dorsal attachment is determined to be inappropriate by a competent person and where there is no chance to fall in a direction other than feet first. ACCEPTED PRACTICAL USES FOR A STERNAL ATTACHMENT INCLUDE, BUT ARE NOT LIMITED TO, LADDER CLIMBING WITH A GUIDED TYPE FALL ARRESTER, LADDER CLIMBING WITH AN OVERHEAD SELF-RETRACTING LIFELINE FOR FALL ARREST, ****WORK POSITIONING**** AND ROPE ACCESS. The sternal attachment may also be used for travel restraint or rescue. When supported by the sternal attachment during a fall, the design of the FBH shall direct load through the shoulder straps supporting the user and around the thighs. Supporting the user, post fall, by the sternal attachment will result in roughly a sitting or cradled body position with weight concentrated on the thighs, buttocks, and lower back. Supporting the user during work positioning by this sternal attachment will result in an approximate upright body position. If the sternal attachment is used for fall arrest, the competent person evaluating the application should take measures to ensure that a fall can only occur feet first. This may include limiting the allowable free fall distance. It may be possible for a sternal attachment incorporated into an adjustable style chest strap to cause the chest strap to slide up and possibly choke the user during a fall, extraction, suspension, etc. The competent person should consider FBH models with a fixed sternal attachment for these applications." Based on this, it appears that your own documentation allows for the use of the sternal attachment point for work positioning under certain conditions. This seems to contradict the guidance provided in your recent response. Perhaps, as often happens, personal preferences or ideas are being turned into dogma? Or perhaps the document you yourself cite is incorrect and Edelrid drafted it without taking into account the EN 361 standard, which specifies the requirements, test methods, usage instructions, marking, and packaging for fall arrest harnesses. Could you please provide further clarification on this discrepancy? It is crucial for those of us in the wind energy industry to understand the correct and safe use of the harness to ensure our safety and compliance with industry standards. Thank you once again for your attention and for producing such reliable equipment. I look forward to your clarification. Best regards,

@@hectorpadron3099 Thank you for you reply. Please note that the paragraph you are referring to is meant for applications in the context of the ANSI/ ASSP Z359.11. The user instructions do not replace a risk assessment for a workplace. Please excuse any misunderstanding and contact us via customerservice@edelrid.de if you have further questions.

It's written on the website... 'BUY ONLINE' "The product you selected is not available at partnered online shops in your country" Can't I buy it in Korea?

Please click on our video description :) there you'll find links to other videos within this series, as well as relevant Knowledge Base articles.

@@edelrid I did not see the raw data from this video saying what the rope construction or type was for each test here. Maybe a table like that has been added since or maybe I missed it? Where can I find the data from this specific test saying the rope or rope material and the cutting length? Basically where would I see the number you used to make the plots in this video?

@@andrewhunter6536 Hey, yes I agree that this particularly data set doesn't look as obviously dismissive as the others. However, we of course looked deeper into this (as well as many other facettes not even shown here in this video) and the conclusions still stands that tensile strength does not reliably influence the cut value. Otherwise, this would also have been really low hanging fruit for us and other rope manufacturer. Unfortunately it is not so easy as just to control tensile strength :) We could easily construct ropes with little tensile strength and a great cut value. Maybe an example for this could also be seen at 7:34 where we show the results of a 7mm cord with a much higher cut value then one 11mm rope. For sure the 11mm rope has a much higher tensile strength than the 7mm rope.

Depending on your location, it should be restocked at local retailers and online by this summer. 🙂

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Come on, they're cheetah!

Es handelt sich in diesem Beitrag um Schlingen nach EN 566, die von allen Herstellern nicht zur Energieaufnahme geeignet sind. Speziell für die Anwendung als Selbstsicherung mit dynamischer Reserve gibt es Selbstsicherungen nach EN 17520. Bei uns erhältlich: edelrid.com/de-de/sport/verbindungsmittel-shop

The PINCH has been successfully certified according to EN 15151-1 (braking devices with manually assisted locking) and EN 12841-C (rope adjustment device). However, certification according to EN 12841-C (descender) could not be implemented in time for the start of the first production batch because of organizational reasons. If you bought a device and would like to return it, please contact us via the contact form on our website. We apologize for any inconvenience.

@@edelrid will the next batch include the EN 12841-C (descender) certification ?

@@fredericohsilva For further production, the implementation of certification according to EN 12841-C is now ensured. We currently plan to have PINCH with EN 12841-C available in stores during Q3 2024.