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Can N&C make a custom snare ; 15 X 7 with 12 lugs & Hardware , if I order 1 ? Please Reply !!

What about shortening the chain? I had to shorten mine for a faster response from the beater to the head.

what throw offs does he use

How about the batter side? I suppose I could/should just try it myself. I like my snare side ringy

Bonham used a 42 strand wire on his Supraphonic, so yeah I'm good with that!

It's the fuel intake.

I would push back on this episode. I had a 16 converted Tom to kick, and the lift was flat so I could slide the pedal horizontally, only changing the strike zone without changing the pedal physics. The off center hit provided a much longer sustain with more overtones. Dead center resulted in more attack and far less overtones. This seems like it would be obvious through observing the behavior of other Drums. If you hit a floor Tom off center with a stick the sound is vastly different than hitting it dead center, that is just the nature of Drums themselves.

I thought it was there to keep the inside of the drum the same pressure as the outside. It would be horrible to try to tune it just to then realize it is slowly changeing pressure, probably throwing the tune out quite a bit.

What do you think of the Evens Hydraulic drum head Clear

Any chance of a Rogers Dynasonic segment. They can be a little tricky to tune..

Any chance of a Rogers Dynasonic segment. They can be a little tricky..

Did you ever try to cut holes in the reso head of toms and mic it like a kick? This would maybe be interesting

Love it! 🔥

And as you've pointed out, those deep snares reverberate nicely when the heads are tuned lower and the batter head is slightly higher than the reso. The drum sounds like it has reverb in it when you crack the rim-shot.

For snare stand mounting of tom, the Pearl S1030 is great because you can adjust each arm of the basket to desired tom diameter - the basket can now be flat with no crimping, and the rubber "claws" are a softer, resonant "air suspension" design.

I'm just about to do my 2nd gig as a drummer, this pace for instructional videos is perfect. Whether I'm away or with my drums, it's exactly what I needed. Thank you!

this sounds amazing!

Your site is the most intelligent I have come across with regards to drum tuning. I’ve played for 50 years & had to deal with all sorts of myths & misunderstandings about sounds . It was particularly bad in the 80 s . When engineers muffled the crap out of everything as it was a quick fix . Thanks for sharing the science. You play great . Beautiful press rolls etc . Thanks .

Your site is the most intelligent I have come across with regards to drum tuning. I’ve played for 50 years & had to deal with all sorts of myths & misunderstandings about sounds . It was particularly bad in the 80 s . When engineers muffled the crap out of everything as it was a quick fix . Thanks for sharing the science.

Probably some of the best videos I have seen! It's really hard to get the perfect sound out of a kit. It does take many attempts and in that way yes it does take way more patience than what people think.

does this test even count if your not using a late 90's OCDP Snare?

Tama Die Cast hoops are zinc, and quite flexible. My 14" tom hoops came in a bit out of round from shipping and I was able to hand form them back into shape for the head to fit properly. Different manufacturers may use different materials. Also, the 10" tom was tuned amazingly throughout the video. The other 2 didn't sound as clear and focused.

Agreed on much of this, the players hands (touch and strike point) have tremendous effect, tuning, muffling, heads, sticks also have massive effect. But imo the best reason to own a few snares holds value in the ease of getting to certain places. A busy gigging player can get a dry sound from any drum, but the acrolite gets there quick and easy. That ease is nice to have for a busy working player. A steel drum can get bright and loud easily, and the ease could be worth it for some people. Learning to tune well and capture lots of sounds is super valuable to ANY drummer! But when I was gigging, recording and studying non stop, I had less time to tinker with things, and there was value in having a snare that I could say “this gets me where I’m going quick”.

Color me surprised; I thought A was going to be the uncorked one.

I couldn’t hear much difference in any of the examples, however I think you pretty much nailed the “Don’t Bring Me Down” snare sound with that 8” drum. :)

One of your best vids so far! I’m a guitarist, non-drummer following drum YT of general interest. I find guitarists cling to so many undocumented beliefs, but drummers are not far behind 😂. Thanks for educating us.

Ludwig built me a kit in early 2000's (14/16/24) and the 14" is the only drum with TWO vent holes. I never got a straight answer from them, nor in any forums as to why that is.

Definitely a marginally drier tone with the vent open.

your "analysis" is limited to a single type of vent - and your approach lacks fluid/structure coupling in particular for snare : the good test to do is to check how much of the fundamental is removed when snares are engaged (check timpani acoustics & Thomas Rossing books). I do patented Bessel vented sound tailored drums and the first parameter is the vent.

Guru drum had no vent hole. Incredible tone but too much sustain and not much attack. I was recording all sorts at the time and the unvented one took more time to return to rest. It's shown when you really lay into a drum. Not lite taps, give it some stick and unvented drums lose focus. Basically they're still ringing if the air has nowhere to go

A drummer that hits harder will notice more difference. Toms can get a basketball sounding effect with nowhere for the air to escape.

Plenty of round badge toms without vents.

In all the time I've had my Pearl free floating snare, I just realised they don't have vent holes!

None of the drums I build have any vent holes.

It blows me away how much air comes out from that vent. Pun intended. If those vent holes help reduce stress on my snare side head as a heavy hitter, I am curious if adding more vent holes can improve the life span of the snare side head. Sucks I don't have the means yo test this.

No vents isn't very smart. Want condensation when it's colder?

I would love to see someone else do it too, but no alternative facts please!

Very minute difference to my ears, if any, on some of the examples. Thank you for the education and physics lesson too, I love to learn!! 🙂

so many hole jokes come to mind.....

As you know, Ronn Dunnett of Dunnett drums produces snare drums with adjustable air vents. It's called the hyper-vent. This feature allows you to open up the vent fully or to close it entirely.... plus everything in between. Does that translate into a completely different sound of the snare? Perhaps. I believe so. However for me, even more importantly is how the snare feels under the hands when playing it. I'm not speaking about playing back beats at fortissimo (although it sings anyway) but rather the articulation of buzz rolls and the buttery feel of clean doubles at soft to medium dynamics. I know that for me having the luxury of turning the hyper-vent off is a bonus. I can feel and hear the articulation and expressiveness at lower volumes while finessing the notes.

Great video Ben & Cody. I can hear a big difference in the plugged and open snare hits. The transit attack note is the same note but the plugged hits have a note with a downward bend in the overtones with less sustain with wires slightly duller. The open hits have a upwards tone in the overtones with full sustain and brighter wires. Thanks for a doing this test I will use this stick a cork in it hack for a quick change in the studio when tracking ballads, country or bluesy tracks.

Cody has uncorked another mystery! Well done. (I had to say it)

I thought they were there so you can smell the good glue, especially from vintage drums (without taking the heads off). 😀

Heard a subtle difference with 1 and 3, but for the first drum I guessed the open and plugged sound in reverse!

Does it allow the drum to breathe for things like temperature changes or moisture build up?

On some of my Snare Drums i removed the lugs and converted them to single tension drums,with one,or better 8 or 10 srew fom top to buttom,so there are 16 or 20 holes each about 6-7 mm in diameter as an extra ventholes,but i never had the feeling,that they sounded very different,even the sensitivity of the snare response seem to be similar to how it was with the lugs and the holes closed.

I think there is a very slight sound change. The drums seem slightly dryer without the plugs. It's so small though, that especially when you are playing in a song it will make no difference. However, I thought holes in in drums were for 2 reasons: 1) to save the drum from damage due to air pressure changes when traveling and 2) to save damage from heavy hitting as the air pressure has nowhere to go (which would explain the slight increase in resonance in your tests)... And I wrote this comment while still listening to this video and head you talk about blowing the snare side head blowing out 😂

Barometric pressure changes...external to drum...from one moment to next...equalisation via vent allows drum tuning to remain consistent (independent of barometric pressure). High pressure inside drum (compared to external pressure...on a hot dry day) will cause heads to bulge outwards ...low pressure (storm coming over)...heads will dip inwards...snare wires rattle more).

I'd be interested to hear (though it's a pain to test) the difference more extreme venting makes - for instance, the snare used for Deftone's White Pony has a bunch of 3-inch holes all around the shell (czcams.com/video/qqhBevWSeyY/video.htmlfeature=shared&t=166), and that thing has lots of ring, but a really dry 'crack'. I think there's a Matt Halpern signature too that has a bunch of normal-sized vents all around the shell.

From what I understand they were originally there for use with animal hide heads and the fluctuation in humidity to keep the drum in shape. Also I have a 70’s Fibes fiberglass kit that has NO vent holes in all drums except the snare - sounds fantastic!