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Cheers buddy, I appreciate the compliment 👍🏼

I’m currently away on a weekend camping trip but I’ll make this my next video…. What lap times are you already setting?

@@jaysysumakaRatMaster3 I’m setting 8.15 to 8.17 in the Ferrari that’s my main car but I’m really struggling with the Porsche my quickest 8.19 but average 8.22just really enjoy driving it just trying to get quicker appreciate the help 👍

@@joecoyston1495Been working on the Porsche setup and currently hitting 8.12s to 8.13s feels pretty good but I still haven’t got a clue how people are setting sub 8.10s

@@jaysysumakaRatMaster3 cheers jay! I mean 8.12 seems crazy to me in the Porsche 😅 look forward to trying it and if I can knock of a a few seconds of my time

As far as I’m aware my controller settings video should still be the same.

U uploaded on 1.8.6 ,but now it is 1.10 ​@@jaysysumakaRatMaster3

@shfd3832 I’m sure I uploaded on 1.9.11.0 which is what console is currently on. Pc is on 1.10.2

@@jaysysumakaRatMaster3 I only see 1.8.7 not 1.9, I will search again in ur channel

@@jaysysumakaRatMaster3 could u share link here

I’m not sure I’ll play it on pc but I might get it when it comes to console.

@@jaysysumakaRatMaster3 open beta was crazy, the pc specs are absolutely insane the stuff you need to run it =[, im planning to get it on pc just unsure which to get it on =[ as the only round wheel i have is for ps =[

Cheers Bro… 👊 appreciate the comment 🙏

Sorry to hear you’re struggling with the game but there are no updates coming to the last generation Xbox or PlayStation. I’d suggest trying to update your wheel… can’t really offer any more help on the older console?

Yep, this option is definitely in the menus 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

In the newer versions of the game since 1.8 the steering ratios don’t need to be set for individual cars. You should have the steering set to auto on your wheel or 900 and in the game settings also have it set to 900. You can adjust the sensitivity in the mechanical grip section of the car setup in steering ratio. I also normal run with the incar view with no steering wheel as I find it very off putting as the wheel has a slight delay in response time visually. Hope this helps.

@@jaysysumakaRatMaster3 yes thank you so much I didn’t know there was a button in the middle to adjust. Life saver mate!

Yep… it’s a handful alright, I’d love to try it with some traction control cause I’m sure I’d be quicker despite all the quicker guys proving that no tc is the way to go. It definitely makes you work for the lap but quite rightly it sounds amazing, especially on the reply cameras 👍🏼 All the best DarkKnight 👊

I don’t use the control pad but if I did these would be my settings… I can only show what I did in the video.

@@jaysysumakaRatMaster3 ah okay sorry i dont see it, thanks you so much

Unfortunately I don’t have the CSL to offer advice. All I can suggest is making sure the firmware is up to date. Max out the gain in game and on you wheel if necessary and increase the caster to maximum in any car you’re driving.

I have the CSL DD with 5nm and have to turn the ffb gain down to 60 in game. Make sure you have it set to 100 on the actual wheel in the little screen on the wheel itself.

@@markbird5461 do you have an Xbox series x/s or Xbox one x/s

Yep… it’s harder than it looks. I still have no idea how people drive so fast with no TC?

Personally I chose to buy the QR as it just looks more solid. I also always use the fixation screw as recommended by Fanatec so it isn’t exactly QR. I’ve never used the plastic attachment.

@@jaysysumakaRatMaster3 I haven't decided to buy the aluminium one yet I may do in the future, but do I need a quick release to drive the wheel or can I just use it without a quick release??

I think the standard plastic attachment is supplied with the wheel. So in theory you don’t need to buy the QR. But… I would if you have a spare £100 or however much it costs these days. simdemon.com/product/qr1-wheel-side-clubsport-quick-release-adapter/

@@jaysysumakaRatMaster3 no I meant do I need to use the plastic one that comes with it to use the wheel? Is a quick release necessary at all?

@all-caps3927 I’m sure you need something to mount the wheel but you don’t need to buy the QR. Whatever came with the wheel will allow you to use it.

I’ve never considered being a welder but i became an electrician after many years of studying. You could also try NDT. I would say blade repair doesn’t pay very well either in comparison to being an electrician or an NDT technician. All the best with your career choice 👍🏼

Yeah I wish people would pay attention to the lap times posted during qualifying. There’s no point battling to hold someone behind if they’re 10 seconds a lap faster. You’d do better letting them past and learning where you’re slower than them.

​@@jaysysumakaRatMaster3 my lap time is 135. easily , no rush , im talking about the reckless drivers dude

You mean 13 minutes?

Very tough… one of the hardest medical I’ve ever done.

Thank you​@@jaysysumakaRatMaster3

I’m not sure how much I gain but it’s certainly a few tenths per lap. Tenths eventually make seconds though so if I can gain a few tenths I’m all for it. It’s when you forget you’re in tc1 and light up the rears on corner exit you can lose more time than you’ve gained. I really need to learn to keep it in TC 1 or TC like all the fastest guys on pc.

@@jaysysumakaRatMaster3 Thx. When I am in a mood for crashes I’ll try it lol

I’d certainly be interested in seeing what the NSX has to offer here 👍🏼

I dropped the front ABS to zero and have added a little stiffness to the rear bump stops and have finally started to hit 8:10s now. Surprisingly the front ABS softer made a big difference to slow speed front end grip without to much disturbance at the rear.

Cheers bro, glad to hear I help others where I can. All the best with it on console release. Fingers crossed it doesn’t ruin something else. No doubt there will be a few teething issues but hopefully they’ll be resolved by the time I’m back home from work and a short holiday.

From the release of Red Bull ring there was zero issues for me,I only play offline races so it's pretty stable and very fun with high difficulty AI, looking forward to see more content from your channel keep up the good work.. Enjoy your time 🙏

Cheers Jan, I’m sure you also have access to pc racing and are well aware of the initial setup issues people had with the qualifying laps and time added after crossing the start finish line to allow people on a lap to finish. Hopefully some of these issues will be ironed out already for possible races on XCL? Unfortunately life at home has been keeping me away from taking part in planned races recently.

Thanks Mark… much appreciated 👍🏼

Thanks Peter…If I ever find a pair of gloves or slipons that make me faster I’ll let you know 👍🏼

I only map 4 buttons on the wheel, B for pit entry limiter, A for lights to flash blue flagged drivers and X and Y I use to change TC between 1 and whichever TC offers the most grip with limited slip… the McLaren is 4, the 296 is 7… the Lambo is 6… the Nissan GTR is 5 etc… My wheel settings will be different to you as I have calibrated my brake pedal much stiffer and I’m running a slightly older Firmware which feels better to me. Good luck with the game it’s probably the best racer on console right now and for the last 3 years.

That’s great to hear… I often use the same setup on other circuits but just tweak the odd setting. Makes sense if you ask me. Glad to hear it helped you pickup a podium… Hopefully catch you online for some wheel to wheel combat. Thanks for the comment as always 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

Make sure you’re starting the game from the Xbox menu with the wheel. In the control settings you also need to select the wheel option, save it as a preset then load the preset. This is very important.

Type “XCL Servers” if you have signed up for a specific race you will have the password in an email. Hope this helps. The servers will be listed 1 to 4 usually.

@@jaysysumakaRatMaster3 thanks, I actually found the racing servers but I'm looking for a new one they send on discord today, it's a open racing server for practice, no ranking involved

@gabriellass4084 ah ok…. That would be new for me… Not something I was aware of. Looking on Discord it’s called XCL SERVER OPEN with the password being xcl in lowercase. Hope this helps.

@@jaysysumakaRatMaster3 thank you for your time, I'm typing this name but it says there's no result for it :/

@gabriellass4084 Try using the Discord app to see if anyone can help… that’s your best option I think… Good luck bro 👊

Yeah I’d agree wholeheartedly, spending hours tuning dampers is a huge waste of time. Time would be far better spent running laps and learning the circuit. Making small setup changes in areas that make the car feel fundamentally better. Yes the dampers can induce oversteer and understeer but I think it’s much better to tune this with the ride height or various areas of the suspension. Thanks as always for your comment 👍🏼

Cheers Andrew… much appreciated 👍🏼

I’d agree… moving from Xbox to Series X is night and day. 30FPS TO 60FPS. Then on pc from 60 to 120FPS feels like another jump in smoothness.

Glad to hear you’re of a similar opinion and like you mention there are many ways to skin a cat… we all want to reach the same goal.. The high bump stop thing just doesn’t work for me. Thanks for the comment and see you on track 👍🏼

@@jaysysumakaRatMaster3 When I tested these meta setups I initially thought they are for people using controllers as they are dialing out all of the responsiveness that translates to skittishness in the absence of skilful input modulation. I can understand the appeal if the only goal is being fast, but personally I enjoy having some character to fight with and consequences to help me learn driving techniques that are more parallel to reality (and thus more compatible with other sims). I'm pretty sure most passionate developers maintaining/improving a sim would try to patch out unrealistic setups performing best, as it goes against the vision of simulation in general. I'm not sure how it's possible to use long bump stops alone as practically the only thing cushioning the car. In reality bumps would cause harsh diving and squating and a lot of force would pass straight through into the chassis with abrupt transitions causing erratic handling (and an instant head/backache lol), especially with the hardest rebound forces slapping back with no rhythm or synchronisation to spring oscillations (because there are none as they're always fully loaded under weight). My neck hurts just imagining it.

Yep… I did hours of testing the other night running 18 different permutations with regards to suspension and damping and every time I came back to the meta damper settings displaying a better histogram in Motec. Subtle difference in car handling but all of them felt worse than the meta setup. Which makes me think it’s utterly pointless to spend further time adjusting dampers. It shows no benefits in testing… You get better results with suspension and bump stop ranges when it comes to tuning suspension so just leave the dampers on hard fast rebound for now. Look to other areas to improve handling performance and be safe in the knowledge the dampers are good as they are for now. 👍🏼 If anything it makes it a level playing field while console doesn’t have the luxury of running Motec.

​@@jaysysumakaRatMaster3Even though I haven't spent all that time you have analysing telemetry, I still realised that the effort to reward ratio of not using meta damper tuning isn't very sensible, but there's a part of me that refuses to do it anyway, so I end up with setups like the one you showed at the start... I run slightly harder and shorter bump stops up front and run something between 10-30% bump on the dampers to slow down transients and I start rebound at hardest and work backwards to find the smoothest transitions, though they are usually above 60% as a minimum. Is it a waste of time? Probably, but it makes me feel more invested in the car which results in more time on the track and more insights that lead to improvement, so I think it's still worth it for me. In a sense it's probably not a bad thing that I can't tune with Motec, else I'd probably have a bigger inner conflict to contend with lol Also, I'd like to see someone who is used to meta tunes drive the GT4 Maserati or a Cup Car in a spec race 😅

It’s always nice to race in cup races like you say… it separates the drivers in the group that’s for sure. I tend to not look to much at Motec even though it’s there to use. There’s not a great deal of positive data acquired since using it. I think there’s more gained from running laps and looking at the delta. Thanks for all the comment’s… all very interesting.

I'm pretty new to DD and to ACC, but I've done a lot of experimenting. I've found that 15 NDP on the McLaren wheel is enough to keep oscillations under control, but it does feel a bit too light to me with high Dynamic Dampening, but I can't deny that the contrast could help performance. I think the sweet spot for me is around 20-30 Dynamic Dampening and 35 NDP. I'm a bit heavy handed, so the weight helps me be smoother. Lower DynD keeps forces at low speeds more realistic imo... I also find that understeer is easier to perceive with my higher NDP with some DynD, as opposed to none. It varies car to car quite a bit too. My default torque and gain is 100% of 8nm and 75% (with road feel off), but some cars end up as low as 60% gain. The guy who had everything off... do you mean like Spring/Damping/Force Effects? If so, that's nuts... There are some games (more arcadey ones) where in game settings still produce unnatural centre spring and dampening effects, so reducing those forces on the base can help fine tune, but ACC has it balanced as is. I have them all at 100% so the game has the freedom to express itself and use gain just to prevent clipping.

Exactly and yes thats what he had off and i mean rverything was off then he conplains about not feeling much in games and btw this is a youtuber who does this. I was absokutely shocked. Then he puts gain at 35% in acc and nothing else and expected to feel a nicr eeighty wheel like what? He trashes on acc ffb calling it dead all the time. I'm like buddy you need to relearn settings and realize you are turning off alot of your feeling, your bounce, your center forced fighting you. Turning off road feel and tire feel. He just doesn't get it. ​@@dylanmonahan5909

​@@dylanmonahan5909I'm lucky with my dd+ idk how they did it with dialing it in but I don't get osccilations but I hsve been running around 15ndp also. So makes sense. But I turn interpalation down to like 4 sometimes 0 if I want really raw ffb details. That setting alone is incredible. But yeah idk dynamic dampening for me doesn't take away weight if it did I would turn it down. Maybe it's my base I hsve no clue but I absolutely love the constant forces. So far I haven't played a single game that my wheelbase feels light in. I think fanstec finally figured it out. It only loosens up when you lose grip. Even in the crappy ffb of f1 2023 it still has that weight even if not the best detail due to the game the weight is there. So that's nice.

​​​@@dylanmonahan5909I agree I have them at 100 also just like fanatec suggests. On pretty much most games. If you take away all of that you don't get as much of that car feel and def will make it feel lighter. I tell peoppe if they want that feel just turn down the actual ffb gain the details will still come through but don't go to 0 on every setting.

@@reviewforthetube6485 I've only heard good thing regarding the DD+. As I understand it, the motor is incredibly fast at accel/deccel, so much so that the milliseconds inbetween slopes can be filled with even more data, so you can probably have Road Feel on without it blurring the rest of the FFB like it tends to on my CSL 8nm. I think most of the improvement comes from Fanatec's years of experience and R&D with their machine coding and its integration into software. And that's before games are even taking full advantage of it. ACC is the only game where I run zero interlopation. Even the subtle graininess feels good, like it might actually be simulating a rack and pinion or something.

After revisiting this circuit in my latest video I’m capable of setting the same lap on both pc and Xbox. The FFB for me is very similar on both platforms. I have the same settings on console and pc through my wheel.

@jaysysumakaRatMaster3 yeah I'm on ps5 so maybe it's ps5? Idk also are you using drivehub? Drivehub reduces forces on console. It works but will never be as good as directly plugging the base into the console itself. Idk why but it's been that way for a while now.

@@jaysysumakaRatMaster3 either way even if both are similiar it still shows console isn't far off anymore so still a great one to try on console for those console racers.

@@reviewforthetube6485 never used drive hub… just straight in both pc and Xbox.

@jaysysumakaRatMaster3 gotcha well that's good for sure. Maybe some just don't know how to do settings on wheels. I am surprised when I hesr people complain then tell me there wheel has everything turned down besides gain adn then in game everything is off except for gain. People seem to not realize dynamic dampening is made for the feeling from the ground to the car. Aka tires, suspension etc. So they probably don't realize they are ruining the settings. Tbh idk how people use wheels that are light in the center. I need that weight and feel so I know when I'm on the edge of grip.

It is…what it is…

Yeah I guess I didn’t know this at the time… I still see people trying to do a full out lap even now so many still don’t know.

@@jaysysumakaRatMaster3 yeah true, it's legal in the real Nord's race aswell

@@lukeduffy130 yeah I think Nils mentioned it in his track guide.

Yeah I did a video recently purely about this topic at Brands Hatch… might be worth a watch but I don’t think there’s much between pc & console now.

Believe me for the first time yesterday I spent hours and hours in Motec trying to learn how to adjust suspension and dampers. This was an eye-opener for me. Also the circuit offers some unique challenges and car setup issues. I’m still yet to find perfect set up for the Nissan GTR. I have only just managed to break into the 8:16s

Cheers Bro… I appreciate the comment… good luck with the 1:49s at least you know there’s more room to improve.