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I'm using Naish 4.6m wing and a cheap-ish mountainboard (which is no longer made). It's good fun in the right winds, but it's been a while since I've been out, life's a bit busy!

Thanks, efoiling looks such fun, and great way to learn, would love to try it too some day 😀

I've had a few goes and it's a lot of fun, but the foil is a whole new skill which takes time - it's not the physical effort (which is a fun challenge) it's having enough time to put towards it, including driving to a suitable flat water location. I found I need more regular practice on flatter water, so time and location are my biggest hurdles and hold me back currently. Best thing I'd say is take lessons and see how you find it. If you have easy access to flatter water it will definitely help.

Thanks Neil, I'd always felt that part of the beach could be used more creatively so had to try it! Definitely less pain, though a little cleaning required afterwards!

Thanks for your kind comment and apologies for the late reply - bit of a grey area this and mindful this is a public forum. I'm not keen on the limitations at WSM though might be good to support it. I prefer trying elsewhere, my philosophy being 'better to ask for forgiveness than permission'... 😉

Hi Martyn, there's only the land yacht club so far as I am aware. Brean wardens don't seem keen about wheels on the sand otherwise 😕

Thank you. I brush off sand and rinse with water after use, then spray around the bearings with PTFE spray. I would add don't spend too much on the board in the first place (unless you can!), it is a harsh environment for wood and wheels. I bought an older model at reduced price so less to worry about if it breaks. Some paint on my deck is starting to wear from sandy shoes rubbing on it, but it's held up well overall.

Super thanx for the reply. I'm thinking about buying a board for the beach, I'll try a cheap one and will apply your advise of mantainance 😉🤜🤛

@@intheoutside123Appreciate your time and effort in showing us that you can sail using a mountain board on sand. Are the wheel solid plastic or pneumatic? Does this matter on sand?

Thank you, hope it was useful 👍🏽

Thanks. Yes I do see what you mean. There was not enough wind looking back, though that's kind of how I wanted it for my first try. I think I'm actually holding the wing over my ead in the thumbnail pic, rather than the wind holding it

I'm honoured Peter, thanks! Great to hear you've given it a go, and now developing new skills further - that was the main point really 👍🏽 Don't worry, I'm very much alive, just life and work gets in the the way of play, I'm sure you understand!

Your beach sounds perfect, so long as there's no local restrictions, deserted and hard packed. Just watch out for loose dogs who will assume you're an animal to be chased! I'm keen to try with a surf skate but still not found a suitable location locally...

@@intheoutside123 I will keep an eye out for dogs! More of a danger would probably be the cars. We can drive on the beach here in TX. The speed limit is 20 I believe but there's always that one guy!

czcams.com/video/TYUOKby9tWs/video.htmlsi=6tRP7UMjHwxU_hwF ☝️ This is my very first attempt...

Yep, totally agree 👍🏽

Thank you! Yes good point and all noted, thanks

The wait for perfect conditions can be frustrating, but always worth it!

Useful, many thanks.

Thanks Bob, that's appreciated. It was simple but fun!

Hi, a wing would work with any SUP I think. It's fun but you are quite limited with what you can do, mostly just going downwind - which in retrospect I think the video demonstrates quite well. I'd suggest thinking about what you want to use the SUP for most of the time (without the wing) and buy the SUP most suitable for that. For example if new to SUP an allround would be ideal. Perhaps have a look at the Slingshot SUP winder attachment, or even the 11ft Slingshot crosswinder as the extra fin attachment will help. Of course there's also the option of buying a big floaty foil board if you're thinking about heading down the foil route! Hope that helps, difficult to give specific advice really 🙂

Great advice, thanks👍🏽

Hi Martyn, wind's 15 to 20 knots (17-23mph) are best for learning, in fact I find low 20's best overall as i prefer to cruise and live rather than charge and die! My best guess would be a 5m to 6m wing but do check with a shop if there's one near you. Too big and you might be hitting the wing tips on the ground a lot.

Thanks for reply, I've sailed alot and understand wind direction and strength etc. Sounds a lot of sail area I suppose if you get a big gust or going to fast you just spill the wind? By just holding on to the front? Looks great fun. I live in Pembrokeshire we have some really long beaches, so my plan is a mountain board and wing. Then hit the beach low tide and wind is on shore which is quite often here. So beam reach down then beam reach back. Any advice welcome! Cheers

@@martynrandall7652 Ah Pembrokeshire, amazing beaches! I filmed this at Broughton Bay on the Gower: czcams.com/video/uXM9Ln9C2Ik/video.html - let me know if you find a favourite spot I can try! It's simple to spill wind to manage gusts and slow down, just raise your back hand or release back hand completely and the wing will just flag out and depower, it's the simplicity that I enjoy, though the best sessions are always governed by firm sand conditions and steady winds 👍🏽

@@intheoutside123 I would think Pendine sands would be perfect I reckon. I have done afair bit of sailing so pretty good with sails etc. Thanks

You're welcome, that's great to hear. It's a great challenge and a fun day out - good luck!👍🏽

Yes, a brush and rinse with water does the trick. The wing is usually not too bad, but the board can get in a mess, especially if the sand's wet. Once dry silicone spray on the bearings removes more moisture so it's ready to roll for next time

@@intheoutside123 Thanks, appreciate it!

Hi, yes I totally get where you're coming from! I still love to get out when I can but definitely less often than I'd like right now, but with longer days coming hopefully that can change. Perhaps drop a line to contactintheoutside@gmail.com and I can let you know if I plan to go out. Does tend to be a bit last minute, need 15 to 22 knots straight onshore on firm sand for best results (plus time off work!) 👍🏽

@@intheoutside123 Thanks so much for getting back to me. Yes the summer is on its way 👍 Will defo message you shortly.

Hi, that's a difficult one as grass creates more resistance so you wouldn't want to go too small. Too big and and he may find it harder to hold. Is there a shop you can visit so you can try for size first? Let us know how it goes!

@@intheoutside123 thanks for reply... The problem is he want use a kite, (he have a trainer 1.5mt but have no power) but he have difficult with my flysurfer peak 4mt, then he ask me for a wing. But I've no idea, i never try it

Much appreciated, thanks. When the conditions are right it's so nice just cruising the beach. I did try a power kite early on but it quickly caught the eye of the summer beach patrol/fun police - turns out you can't use them on my local spot. All the best with your journey, you'll enjoy it!

No, and I kinda like going sideways. Can be frustrating at times though 🤪

Yep, it's been flipped 😄👍🏽

Hi, the board is a Scrub Psycho 2 which was previously underused before i tried winging. Scrub boards are not made anymore but the HQ Raid Assassin is the same, under £200. I'm using a Naish 4.6m wing, not cheap but good quality and you can pick up reduced price older models brand new at about £500. Any wing around 5m should work so long as winds are OK and sand is firm 👍🏽

Naish wingsurfer 4.6m 👍🏽

Oh no! Assuming the sand was firm and the wind strong enough, try starting off by heading the board more downwind first to get rolling, then you can turn more across the wind once you've got some speed. Gusty winds can also be really frustrating when you're trying first goes in lighter winds, good luck👍🏽

Make sure gopro GPS is on when filming, then you can find it in the gopro app afterwards. There's some videos on YT that explain it pretty well. I find it quite useful to see where I've been 👍🏽

You're welcome, that's good to hear, thanks 🤙

Thanks, it was a fun day out!

Similar, anything less than a sustained 15 knots is not worth trying for a sustained run. 20 to 24-ish knots is great on my Naish 4.6. Can go out in stronger but more tiring. Not tried a smaller wing in higher winds yet. Wind direction is fairly critical as not all the sand is always rideable - need a steady onshore at my local beach

Hi, the journey is slow (more free time needed in good learning conditions) but definitely fun and rewarding. I have a large 120 litre foil board and can taxi around reasonably well, I'm just learning to get on foil - which is a whole new experience. I have a lot of footage of me falling in! Wind surfers seem to pick it up pretty quickly, I don't have any previous experience so it's taking me a little longer. Would definitely recommend if you're up for a challenge...

Thanks. On a good day it's plenty fast enough for me, but it's true, conditions are everything. Those land windsurf rigs look fun, though I do enjoy the simplicity of the wing

@@intheoutside123 Yes, wing sails are better for land sailing than windsurfing rigs in good winds, because of the safety issue. Also I see large diameter mountain board wheels are now influencing larger diameter longboard skateboard wheels for paddling & land sailing. One of my land boards has 6.5" diameter wheels. Also found the axle diameter of scooter wheels matches longboard axles so I switched 70 mm diameter & way too wide longboard wheels to 125 mm scooter wheels that are only 1" wide (less rolling resistance & they also avoid more tiny pebbles that could stop the board during slow turns).

which wing surfer size do you recommend? whats the largest that still handles ok?

I get speed on my mountain board by using a steep hill--that's what it takes to get any speed for sure!