Video

I have an original Vader. It absolutely rips. If I break it, I am absolutely going to pick up a V2

You should add some gold dark art like tarot cards.. mystic symbols a sun a moon.. reminds me the shape of my kitesurfing board... love it.. it's all about style.. beautiful sublime

Looks like my wakeskate

What are the dims?

Will this be made as a Kite version?

I had a really magic Album Vesper that I bough last summer and subsequently broke less than 5 months later in pounding Silver Strand perfection. It's just too much money these days for a board to break and it's avoidable. We use carbon in our cars, snowboards, bicycles and they last forever. I'm never going to buy a regular construction board again. This is just an insurance policy that comes with some performance improvements not to mention it's better for the environment. Hats Off! Placing my order today.

Like a wake / kite / long range cruise missile!

That is sweet. I was wanting to experiment with bottom channel like that and putting snowboard style shape on the rails. Symmetry is needed for next gen airs. Very cool.

Been riding 2 Vaders for 8 yrs now, 5’6 for anything up to double overhead and 5’7 on big days. Not a high performance board or the best board I’ve surfed, but hands down the best all rounder I’ve owned in my 40yrs of surfing. Some mates bought one because of me, but none of them stuck to it. Takes time to dial into it, but once you do, they’re amazing. Mine are now battered, so would love a few PU replacements, if only they were affordable!

That’s the 30 degree carbon weave that’s not available😢

No ski 140 km ,, no surf, nunca medi a velocidade,,mas duvido que seja melhor que a minha JS,,

I bet Tomo sure is glad I showed him the Gemini Speed Freak at the 2009 Sacred Craft .

We should all give props to 50 50 wave skates Ben Wei shaper watermen artist or we would not have new shapers like this pushing the boundaries

Damien Brawner and Brad Domke colab A few years ago right when Covid started they made the Domke brand and Brad rode a wave on the board Damien shaped 70 foot at Jaws a Skim board no fins that’s the fastest board in the world.

"The symmetry of the shape." Tomo says explains the nose shape ... but a surfboard goes in one direction nearly always, so the flow of water is nearly always nose-to-tail, entry, gathering, then later release off the back - therefore, there's a real difference between nose and tail as per water flow and release - hence surfboards are mostly non-symmetrical nose to tail so as to attempt to maximise good entry and then the different physics of release. Fins are at the back after all. Nobody wants fins at the front "for symmetry". So I don't see the argument for the value of symmetry - that's just an aesthetic decision that risks catchy corners at the front of the board. (otherwise we love Tomo's experiments - keep 'em coming)

That’d make a sick kiteboard

Hows it work at crowded Pipe ?

Huh? All surfboards go the same speed. The speed of the wave that is pushing it.

ffs the nose never touches the water except when you paddle, so him explaining in great details how the shape of the nose is important should be enough to tell you it's a load of crap. The only thing that can change is the torque you apply when you turn and the balance on the water because you are seemingly taking of some weight. Coolboard though, I'd like to try it.

I'm a huge fan of Tomo's shapes, I never had a Vader, but the Vanguard was one of my all time favorite surfboards and changed the way I look at surfboards (those oulines made total sense after reading "Naval architecture of planning hulls" by Lindsay Lord), but the fastest surfboard I've ever had or ridden, was in my opinion the Vampirate Inflatable Mattress.

I WANT ONE!!! 🤙🌊

I'd prefer a rounded nose for more efficient entry and paddling. The idea of making it symmetrical with the tail is nonsense.

Yeah...like it

can you prove this claim.? The claim would imply a lower drag ratio than other shapes. I would argue this isn't demonstrable.

Roy Stuart would like to have a word with you.

I’d love to try one with a kite. Is the construction thick enough for a heavier dude to kite on?

This thing moves like a skimboard unreal!

That thing seems to accelerate as it's going up the wave toward the lip. My Tomo's are my favorite boards I've ever owned. I know what he means about neutral stance, it's totally true. Don't need to be all the way on the back of the tail.

Kiteboards have been like that for over 20yrs

its almost like the surfing is 30years behind windsurfing but surfing started 100years earlyier and is 1000times bigger. so strange

BS the nose looks shite

Yeah Boys! Great video on the updated design of the BEST surfboard I have ever owned and I've owned a LOT! Love you guys and Daniel's shaping is truly revolutionary!

All good until a steep drop

The wide nose is super helpful in paddling. I made a 6’0 board with a nose from a 9’0 longboard and a pin tail from a skimboard, and it’s still my favorite to ride. Paddling in is amazing because you can really lean into the nose section when paddling in, and rather than pushing water, it just pops up and planes more and more as you gain speed. The result is that you catch waves way earlier than others around you giving a bit of an advantage in the paddle-battles, or just an easier/earlier paddle in on days when you’re by yourself.

Strong and light is high performance 😂😂😂😂

Cybertruck of Surfing!

I still surf my old Vangard. Stable and fast. This new Vadar looks great.

Love it. Wish I could afford 😮

The double concave running though is nothing new, i was ridding one back in 89 ( Before you were born most likely ) Material technology may have improved but old tech revamped a bit

Stoked to hear this board is being made. My old Vader was awesome. I took it to the Southern Attolls as a back up board two years ago and ended up riding it every day in the really big stuff. I've had it repaired so many times it barely floats but my 12 year old is now on it. I'm a big fan.

I have a Vader v1 and Vanguard. It is not surfing. Riding these boards is a whole different dimension of wave riding. It is not surfing. It is better than surfing. It will make you rethink what you think you know about surfing. I know where I’d put a spare $1500 if I had it laying around.

The Vader 2.0 is pretty sick! I've had mine for about 2 weeks and I've ridden it in small Oceanside mushy to OH hollow beachies. Still peeling back the layers on this one, but feeling really good so far! ⚡⚡⚡⚡ 🤘

Wow 🤯 love it 🤩

had the vader version 1 , excellent board , glad its been revamped , especially in the carbon , better than the discoloured firewire tech.

Life changing board for me. The OG Vader incredible. A board every skater who surfs should have…

This guy has made more garbage and bogus claims about his boards than any shaper ever in existence. I am so tired of him and firewires utter lies and snake oil sales techniques. You’re boards are trash if I was wrong then atleast one pro would be riding them. They don’t in fact no world class surfers do. Why because you peddle lies and the kooks that don’t know any better eat it up. Your boards are trash that should be obvious to all by now but it’s somehow not. Every board Tomo or firewire shapes is talked up and made out to be some mystical break through that makes every other surfboard below it. It’s the opposite firewire and Tomo are bottom of barrel rubbish that have made a massive business selling utter lies and false hype

🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation: 00:20 *Version deux du Vader, une refonte du design original avec une technologie en fibre de carbone Dark Arts.* 00:33 *Nouveau contour inférieur en double concave se fondant dans une surface plane quadruple concave, offrant une excellente adhérence et contrôle.* 01:06 *Le design asymétrique du nez en diamant contribue à une répartition équilibrée de la surface, assurant une vitesse de planage et de pagaie efficace.* 02:14 *Technologie en fibre de carbone Dark Arts : légèreté, robustesse et réactivité exceptionnelles.* 02:56 *L'expérience de surf sur cette planche est intuitive, offrant une vitesse et un contrôle sans précédent, avec une grande polyvalence dans les mouvements.* Made with HARPA AI

Bigger waves?

sandwich some light weight kevlar on the deck and rails ... what core is it? firewire?

Don't get sucked in by the fake hype. These clowns are trying to make megabucks from "new tech" which is just Chinese and Thai bullshit but at an always increasing price. Note how each new version has yet another stupid name designed to boggle the masses? These boards are all machine pop-outs and the "shapers" aren't shaping but just importing in bulk. Note how the boards can't and don't cater for anyone over 80kg (they only go too long and wide instead of thicker - and that's because the machines can't go thicker). And you the suckers are paying for all their surf trips, CZcams vlogs, massive egos and all the rest of it. Walk into any surf shop and besides these so-called "carbon" boards, all the rest of them are just 4oz glass. Why do you think? Do they damage and snap really easily so YOU are forced to buy, yes, yet another surfboard off them? Can you re-sell your 4oz board with dents all over the thing? Absolutely disgraceful and they will never be getting our business.