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Myth, Memory, and Identity Construction with Court Carney (IOT 06)
From the beginning of his career, critics, scholars, and fans have attempted to define Bob Dylan’s identity. Countless interviews and biographies and even Dylan’s 2004 memoir Chronicles: Volume One include myths, half-truths, and obfuscations, leading to lingering questions. These questions are compounded by the public’s perception of him and public images of Dylan used to serve a particular agenda - most often associated with his early protest period. Indeed, public and historic figures’ identities have oft been altered, distilled, diluted, or corrupted through their representations in popular culture. In this episode, Court Carney and I discuss his forthcoming book on Confederate general Nathan Bedford Forrest, identity construction and public memory, and how Bob Dylan’s identity has been constructed throughout his career.
Court is a cultural historian who writes on public memory. He is a full professor of history at Stephen F. Austin University where he teaches courses on Black history and American cultural history. He is the author of Cuttin Up: How Early Jazz Got America’s Ear and Reckoning with the Devil: Nathan Bedford Forrest in Myth and Memory will be released on September 17, 2024. He is the co-editor of The Politics and Power of Bob Dylan’s Live Performances, a collection of essayson Bob Dylan’s setlists and a forthcoming collection of essays reconsidering Dylan’s work in the 1980s.
A Video Version of this Episode is Available at TheFM.Club
Links:

• Court Carney, Ph.D. (www.courtcarney.com/)


• Reckoning with the Devil: Nathan Bedford Forrest in Myth and Memory: Carney, Court: 9780807171530: Amazon.com: Books (www.amazon.com/Reckoning-Devil-Nathan-Bedford-Forrest/dp/0807171530/ref=tmm_hrd_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&dib_tag=se&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.cVRcnis2zCwBd086-3jJITyHz_TdOOT9WbiBA9M-7ahH0VquglZWUHiBVQ8Eew5TryMGspoN0YUPEh_Ryzek0Ixvz9BeAUvsfBP13Ph2HnujmDMo-i9y87Cd50CmwlYGO_xv_cWb5gv2zT1MneALW131eD3JYdcj97IV112tDhSCUkY5a2K-zC4yRQa2lg75SKeCwF5jJdkUR6uL6RF7IPEDWQYa0a2FyisR8FQneucySxdCykQlEVQj3fbXhdkc9PIUd36WJTJUg0wEmSV7MT6a_p1KTg4fotxAQxm5NT8.4CnfiGxmnkgGpr2yYtov4hlEU2rgadKrmWDQLYg7k-4&qid=1724519852&sr=8-6)


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Talkin’ The Basement Tapes, Part 2: The Dylan Originals
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A Million $ Bash Roundtable Last time we discussed just the covers that Bob Dylan and the members of what would become The Band recorded during the 1967 Basement Tapes sessions. Be sure to check out part 1 (thedylantantes.substack.com/p/talkin-the-basement-tapes-part-1) if you missed it. Today we are back with part 2 to explore the Bob Dylan originals recorded during those sessions. The common ...
Bobcats, Bobheads, and Dylanologists with Elizabeth Cantalamassa (IOT 05)
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Bob Dylan, like the Grateful Dead, has a loyal and dedicated fanbase who follow his tours, exchange bootleg recordings, and analyze his lyrics and music. Called “Bobcats,” “Bobheads,” or “Dylanologists,” these Dylan fans have created a unique and supportive worldwide community who stay connected through various networks, meet up at shows, and share their love and appreciation for the art Dylan ...
Dylan's Jokerman: I Don't Worry Too Much About What It Means
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Michael Gray talks about the lyrics of Jokerman on the Dylan.FM Podcast. Find the full episode anywhere you get podcasts. Get Song & Dance Man: The Art of Bob Dylan Volume 2 at Amazon - amzn.to/3y2TXoE
Talkin’ The Basement Tapes, Part 1: The Covers
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A Million $ Bash Roundtable “It feels like this is probably what it sounds like in his head all the time.” -Graley Herren The Basement Tapes occupy a unique place of honor in the pantheon of Dylan legends. Coming just after two other legendary events-the “going electric” performance and subsequent tour and Dylan’s motorcycle accident-the 1967 recordings were a collaboration between Bob Dylan an...
If Children Had Wings (CHR S3 E20)
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In this episode, Mike welcomes fellow Lightfoot fan Hank Battle to discuss this song from the 1978 Endless Wire album. This is the free version of the show. If you’d like to hear the rest of this conversation - along with all of our other extended and bonus episodes - become an FM Plus Subscriber. Sign up in Apple Podcasts or at FMPods.com. EXTENDED EDITIONS To hear the Extended and Bonus Episo...
Is Dylan Singing About Himself or Jesus in the Song Jokerman?
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A clip from Dylan.FM Podcast, with a reading from Song & Dance Man: The Art of Bob Dylan Vol.2 from author Michael Gray. Get Song & Dance Man: The Art of Bob Dylan Volume 2 at Amazon - amzn.to/3y2TXoE
S03.08 Jokerman w/Michael Gray
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In 1984 Bob Dylan told Rolling Stone that Jokerman was 'very mystical', which may explain why many of us have been puzzling on the song for forty years. On this episode we dive into this well loved Dylan song with Michael Gray, who researched and wrote extensively about it in his book Song & Dance Man: The Art of Bob Dylan. This is the eleventh episode in our walk through The 50th Anniversary S...
44. “Angular Banjos Sound Good to Me” ft. Elliot Scheiner
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Engineer, mixer, and producer Elliot Scheiner (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elliot_Scheiner) , who won Grammys for his work on Aja, Gaucho, and Two Against Nature, joins the podcast to talk all about his experiences working on those classic Steely Dan albums, and more. A member of The FM Podcasts Network (www.thefmpods.com) .
Interview with Scott Warmuth
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What Is It about Bob Dylan? Scott Warmuth is a writer and musician from Albuquerque, New Mexico. His research and observations on the writing strategies of Bob Dylan are widely acknowledged and frequently referenced, notably in Bob Dylan’s Lyrics 1983-2000. In 2014, writer Jonah Raskin dubbed Warmuth the dean of Dylanologists. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with oth...
Dylan & Masculinity Conf Recap with Court Carney (IOT 04)
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On May 23 and 24th, scholars gathered in Odense, Denmark to discuss Dylan’s gender performance at the Bob Dylan: Questions on Masculinity Conference. The keynotes included Anne-Marie Mai, Laura Tenschert, Sean Latham. Court Carney, and me. Other scholars including, Rebecca Slaman, Graley Herren, Paul Haney, and Andrew Ferhibach shared their research and insights on Dylan’s performance of mascul...
Somewhere USA (CHR S3 E18)
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In this episode, Mike welcomes fellow Lightfoot fan Jean-Paul de Gaye from Perth, Australia to discuss this song from the 1974 Sundown album. This is the free version of the show. If you’d like to hear the rest of this conversation - along with all of our other extended and bonus episodes - become an FM Plus Subscriber. Sign up in Apple Podcasts or at FMPods.com. EXTENDED EDITIONS To hear the E...
Talkin’ Under the Red Sky
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A Million $ Bash Roundtable Only one year after the triumphal release of “Oh Mercy,” Dylan came out with 1990’s “Under the Red Sky.” The album is known for its all-star musicians-George Harrison, Slash, David Crosby, Bruce Hornsby, Al Kooper, David Lindley, and others-and was produced by Don Was. It is filled with the language and structure of children’s songs and music-which is befitting an al...
Dylan & Masculinity with Laura Tenschert (IOT 03)
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Bob Dylan’s fluid and mercurial shifts in identity performance are a hallmark of his career. A closer investigation of his gender identity performance contextualizes how he conforms to and rebels against traditional constructs of masculinity. In this episode, Laura Tenschert, talented musician and creator and host of the Definitely Dylan podcast, discusses the essay on Dylan and heroes’ journey...
Minstrel of the Dawn (CHR S3 E17)
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Minstrel of the Dawn (CHR S3 E17)
How Daniel Kramer Shot the Bringing It All Back Home Album Cover (In His Own Words). from Dylan.FM
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How Daniel Kramer Shot the Bringing It All Back Home Album Cover (In His Own Words). from Dylan.FM
Now And Then (CHR S3 E16)
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Now And Then (CHR S3 E16)
Dylan & Gospel with Celucien Joseph (IOT 02)
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Dylan & Gospel with Celucien Joseph (IOT 02)
40. “The Corner Office” ft. Max Zuckerman
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40. “The Corner Office” ft. Max Zuckerman
Peaceful Waters (CHR S3 E15)
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Peaceful Waters (CHR S3 E15)
Interview with Dan Brown
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Interview with Dan Brown
Traveling Wilburys: For Bob and Tom and Jeff, It was Roy Orbison that made the band.
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Traveling Wilburys: For Bob and Tom and Jeff, It was Roy Orbison that made the band.
S03.07 Traveling Wilburys: A Little Help From Bob’s Friends w/Jeff Slate
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S03.07 Traveling Wilburys: A Little Help From Bob’s Friends w/Jeff Slate
GUEST POD: Jason Nodler on Infinity Goes Up On Trial (IOT 01)
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GUEST POD: Jason Nodler on Infinity Goes Up On Trial (IOT 01)
Talkin’ Street-Legal
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Talkin’ Street-Legal
WTCF.04 The NET Begins - Acoustic Folk Covers ’88
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WTCF.04 The NET Begins - Acoustic Folk Covers ’88
Heaven Help The Devil (CHR S3 E14)
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Heaven Help The Devil (CHR S3 E14)
S03.06 Groom’s Still Waiting at the Altar & Angelina w/Michael Gray
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S03.06 Groom’s Still Waiting at the Altar & Angelina w/Michael Gray

Komentáře

  • @markmmcaulay
    @markmmcaulay Před dnem

    You folks bring such joy to my heart! Thanks I wish I could see you live!

  • @capt.bart.roberts4975

    I bet he earnt a few more vases for Joni, from this song.

  • @MariJu1ce
    @MariJu1ce Před 21 dnem

    dont know why they had to remix it, it was already perfect.

  • @dogly7775
    @dogly7775 Před měsícem

    I have accidentally erased my original comment (which somebody liked). It went something like this: I enjoyed your video. I especially like what you said about Dylan being American. It seems to me that Dylan's later work is weakened because he sounds like he is trying to be American. I hope that makes sense to you. Thank you.

  • @mikearchibald744
    @mikearchibald744 Před měsícem

    I love that song. I remember hearing it and thinking 'what in holy hell is that about'. But I didn't worry too much about it, I remember one guy saying that great songs all have lyrics that 'you can sort of almost understand but not quite'.

  • @lesliescott2362
    @lesliescott2362 Před měsícem

    I love reading Gray’s books but these podcast commentaries are especially enlightening.

  • @0otee
    @0otee Před 2 měsíci

    Buhhhhhhuhhh uhhhh yeah well… Uniquer isn’t to be found anywhere 🌺🕊️🎶❣️💥🌺

  • @dharprash76
    @dharprash76 Před 2 měsíci

    Beautiful

  • @thecolourofspring5972
    @thecolourofspring5972 Před 2 měsíci

    this having more thumbs down than thumbs up is wild. morons.

  • @ubertalldude
    @ubertalldude Před 3 měsíci

    Great episode, Corner Office is a great album I really enjoy it

  • @Sunviewer338
    @Sunviewer338 Před 3 měsíci

    Cool story. Stories like this are as close to knowing about the Great One as we get.

  • @EPHEN-STEPHEN
    @EPHEN-STEPHEN Před 4 měsíci

    Wouldn't you agree that Cimcie Nichols was born in the MIDDLE of a: Best/Worst - Perpetual - Heart wrenching type of situation ? 🥂 CHEERS TO CIMCIE AND HER FAMILY. ♡❤♡

  • @GreenManalishiUSA
    @GreenManalishiUSA Před 4 měsíci

    I have a paperback collection of Mr. Kramer's photographs of Bob Dylan from the the 1965 era. It contians Mr. Kramer's recollections of following Dylan during those years when Bob was transitioning from folk singer to full-on electric artist, culminating with the Forest Hills concerts. There are many iconic images and stories in that collection. Mr. Kramer witnessed and documented firsthand some of the most important times in the development of Bob's music, and American popular music in general.

  • @thecolourofspring5972
    @thecolourofspring5972 Před 4 měsíci

    one of the most beautiful songs ever. in any form.

  • @lesliescott2362
    @lesliescott2362 Před 4 měsíci

    A delightful and very interesting talk. A great photographer. What a wonderful iconic cover.

  • @christopherwilliams4552
    @christopherwilliams4552 Před 4 měsíci

    RIP! Wonderful interview.

  • @TheTruthSoundSystem
    @TheTruthSoundSystem Před 4 měsíci

    The Corner Office has been on heavy rotation since it came out. Such a fantastic album! Great podcast!

  • @josemanuelmanteiga9783
    @josemanuelmanteiga9783 Před 4 měsíci

    One more cup of coffeee for the road to the valles below

  • @josemanuelmanteiga9783
    @josemanuelmanteiga9783 Před 4 měsíci

    I have a Spanish boots. From nortwest of Spain. Galicia we are celtic😊

  • @jorgejohnson451
    @jorgejohnson451 Před 4 měsíci

    How loud must they have been playing the tape that the neighbor downstairs could hear it? The neighbor probably wanted to get the tape and shred it so that he could get some rest. 😂

  • @trudyw4262
    @trudyw4262 Před 4 měsíci

    Awesome.

  • @jml-rj5re
    @jml-rj5re Před 4 měsíci

    Kulee Baba was so far ahead of its time - what a fantastic song and recording, or at least what we've heard on YT. Fagen's vocals are next level. The latest versions out there sound like Rick Marotta. Horns have been added, but what a feel. Losing Kulee and The Bear were bigger than the 2nd Arrangement. Just IMO. czcams.com/video/iaQY9JesF9I/video.html

  • @jml-rj5re
    @jml-rj5re Před 4 měsíci

    Yeah, that sounds like Gadd instead of Keltner. He's on the beat. Marotta was the right choice with the R&B/funk for Peg, laying back a smidge "character." Great interview! czcams.com/video/bWOaSQ-GlRk/video.html

  • @MrBallynally2
    @MrBallynally2 Před 4 měsíci

    I think the combination of rather mediocre Dylan songs coupled w the then popular overly reverby sound in the mid 80s makes people skip that period. I for one played Empire Burlesque a lot when it came out. Some of the songs were totally drowned in reverb. Pity, really. And then the Brownsville Girl album was a step backwards.Really awful. The amazing sound of Oh, Mercy put him back on track.

    • @MrBallynally2
      @MrBallynally2 Před 4 měsíci

      Oh, and i never cared about people's opinion about this period and never read any magazines anyway. I know Greil is highly respected but still..

  • @NorsePJ
    @NorsePJ Před 5 měsíci

    Bob Dylan is a very low-key kind of guy. I remember Leo Kottke telling a story about how he met Bob Dylan once and spoke with him at length and didn't know it was Dylan until years later. I remember another story of Dylan being taken to a police station and placed in a cell. The officer didn't know it was Dylan until one of the other officers recognised him. It's like he doesn't put it out there.

  • @lithium_9062
    @lithium_9062 Před 5 měsíci

    This man is one of the best!!!! Just back from seeing him perform in Dublin. Great musician and entertainer!

  • @wayneburke4381
    @wayneburke4381 Před 5 měsíci

    they all loved Roy's voice

  • @HillaryClinton123
    @HillaryClinton123 Před 5 měsíci

    I am a Everlanding Lover of Bob Dylin. I am are 74 Yeers Of Oldness.

  • @chrisfezzler2878
    @chrisfezzler2878 Před 5 měsíci

    Enjoyed the conversation (and Jeff's playing with Jake Thistle)

  • @AMEER-114-
    @AMEER-114- Před 5 měsíci

    I cant imagine what dolts would call 84-88 the worst 4 years... Performance wise... They are GREAT YEARS... if you have any sense. . The years with most consistently bad performances is late 89 thru 91... I believe i can feel that he was drinking and in a kind of depression or oppression.... By the time of the '92 concerts.. I hear his heart and mind and spirit CLEARING UP and there's passion and heartfelt expression coming back into the performances.... My first shows were OCT 93 OUTDOOR SHOWS Hollywood Bowl and Blockbuster Pavillion Devore Ca... Santana opening

    • @TheFM_Club
      @TheFM_Club Před 5 měsíci

      Yes. It's a slightly ironic title as explained at length in the first episode of this podcast season - they are the worst of Dylan's career but filled with excellence as we've reviewed in ever episode. Something has to be the worst!

    • @AMEER-114-
      @AMEER-114- Před 5 měsíci

      @@TheFM_Club And what did Bob absolutely say was the definitive versions or what in his mind is of most substanitive significance.... The LIVEperformance. Therefore... If we care for his opinion OVER any other opinion... Then... If labeling a certain stretch of years as WORST... We should seek to indentify the period of most lackluster, shoddy, shabby, inconsistent, and non heartfelt performances.... That period is as I stated.... SOMEWHERE around the timeframe of 89 thru 91.. And also... just looking at his countenance during this time... Should make it even more plain and evident that he was just feeling downtrodden...

    • @TheFM_Club
      @TheFM_Club Před 5 měsíci

      Yes agree 90-91 was the Live bottom. But the made-up criteria here was 5 least impressive years in a row. Again, just a click-bait title to have some fun with the series that looks at how good it really was.

  • @maggiebryan2355
    @maggiebryan2355 Před 5 měsíci

    Love bobs music❤

  • @maggiebryan2355
    @maggiebryan2355 Před 5 měsíci

    Wow don't thing I would want to here them again

  • @toddrunt
    @toddrunt Před 5 měsíci

    Probably the most beautiful song of all time!

    • @iancochrane9588
      @iancochrane9588 Před 5 měsíci

      Its a bit of a variation on Van Morrison's Sweet Thing.. check the Waterboys cover of Sweet Thing on the 1985 box set or the This is the Sea Deluxe edition. Having said that I'll agree that this is a great song

  • @DavidTransformer
    @DavidTransformer Před 5 měsíci

    Simply beautiful

  • @hapuka66jones37
    @hapuka66jones37 Před 6 měsíci

    Great stuff!

  • @canturgan
    @canturgan Před 6 měsíci

    The Steve Gadd version sounds as busy as hell, but maybe if it was on the album we would be used to it. The Rick Marotta version was the right choice.

  • @Stereolab2000
    @Stereolab2000 Před 6 měsíci

    Really interesting. Stumbled upon this podcast. Good stuff.

  • @JoeContiMusic
    @JoeContiMusic Před 6 měsíci

    Halfway thru and it’s Steely Dan gold! Love the stories and Rick sounds like a great guy. 👍

  • @AnneliGwinner
    @AnneliGwinner Před 6 měsíci

    💌💌

  • @Raffiyork
    @Raffiyork Před 6 měsíci

    I owe Mike Scott my life. It's as sure as simple. Pure reality. Whenever you need a space to rest, my friend, come over, I lend yu a cup of tea or coffee, rest here and let's talk. cuZooN.

  • @PaulWyldMusic
    @PaulWyldMusic Před 6 měsíci

    ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

  • @rb6338
    @rb6338 Před 6 měsíci

    Will see her in Paris end of April! Can't wait ❤❤!

  • @dolphwong
    @dolphwong Před 6 měsíci

    Excellent cover.

  • @marksteer8642
    @marksteer8642 Před 6 měsíci

    Clicked on this not knowing it was recorded on an android cheap phone from the back row .

  • @cyclonasaurusrex1525
    @cyclonasaurusrex1525 Před 6 měsíci

    Great!

  • @kilroyjones7786
    @kilroyjones7786 Před 6 měsíci

    We had it all.

  • @christianreese2522
    @christianreese2522 Před 7 měsíci

    "Promo sm" 💦

  • @user-ek3ir5dr8i
    @user-ek3ir5dr8i Před 7 měsíci

    it's amazing isn't it. T Bone Burnett was about to cry over those long ago memories. T Bone has a discussion over the dark side to social media and the harm it is doing. search it out.

  • @adamhuston9955
    @adamhuston9955 Před 7 měsíci

    What a great concert by Bob Dylan and his great band. Love from a fan of yours Adam ❤❤❤❤😊❤❤?Have a great new year Bob Dylan.

  • @adamhuston9955
    @adamhuston9955 Před 7 měsíci

    Bob Dylan is still a great musician of the world. Thank you for your wonderful music Bob Dylan. Love from a fan of yours Adam ❤❤❤❤❤😊❤😊. Take care of yourself Bob Dylan. Have a great new year Bob Dylan.