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The argument made here seems to be that because plants have been moved and disperse themselves beyond human constructed lines, or form ones that do not fit general geographical lines then this means that native is a false or unreliable terminology. This is then applied to humans. But this ignores the fact that there is indeed an invasion of species and that some species simply cannot survive in certain ecosystems or cultures (culture being a broad and ecological term here). We know that nativeness is not fixed, we know that humans and organisms move and migrate, and we know that in some circumstances there are those that really do live nomadically. But this doesn't mean that nativeness is not a thing. It just means it isn't concrete. Maybe native is where you are most comfortable in being. To speak like a native is not to speak one type of accent but to be comfortable with a general language used by others. It becomes a native tongue. And yes it can become a 'global language' with metaphors and idioms that cross fertilise, but who do you prefer to learn the target language from? A native speaker, of course. I really couldn't quite understand the thrust of the argument here. ... ok so his main argument upon hearing the final talk is that we shouldn't try to bring back native plants because this is an impossible task due to climate and cultural changes, and that the ones which we would push away, the non natives are now here to stay and do not have a place to return because they only know what they can live in. Right. But the argument made by the other man is a good point and wasn't answered. To deny a native sense is equally violent surely. To deny the need to prevent invasive species, even if they are weeds that aren't truly 'bad', is to overlook practicalities of daily life and survival. I think this is really a discussion about homogenous cultures vs fringe or the displaced and therefore making this metaphor with plants collapses without a very specific point. When that specific point does finally arrive, (don't destroy non natives, but don't assume native is a set value either) it seems like a fairly obvious and watered down one anyway.

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