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RecumbentPDX
Registrace 3. 03. 2015
RecumbentPDX is the largest trike shop in the Western United States. We have over 20 demo recumbents from Catrike, Greenspeed and SUN ready for test riding on our showroom floor.
We are authorized dealers for Bosch and Bafang pedal-assist motors -and we have multiple demo trikes for each on our showroom floor -so you can know exactly what electric can do for you.
We also have demo trikes with Rohloff -both standard and electronic, Schlumpf and Shimano DI2 drivetrains. We carry accessories from Terracycle and Terratrike as well as bags and panniers from Ortlieb and Axiom.
We offer a lot of customization -for both commuters and folks looking for fun and exercise after injury or disability makes upright riding impossible.
We hope our CZcams Channel enriches your research, tickles your funnybone and stretches your dreams of what you can accomplish!
Call or Email to schedule a test ride at our store on Hawthorne Blvd in Southeast Portland
We are authorized dealers for Bosch and Bafang pedal-assist motors -and we have multiple demo trikes for each on our showroom floor -so you can know exactly what electric can do for you.
We also have demo trikes with Rohloff -both standard and electronic, Schlumpf and Shimano DI2 drivetrains. We carry accessories from Terracycle and Terratrike as well as bags and panniers from Ortlieb and Axiom.
We offer a lot of customization -for both commuters and folks looking for fun and exercise after injury or disability makes upright riding impossible.
We hope our CZcams Channel enriches your research, tickles your funnybone and stretches your dreams of what you can accomplish!
Call or Email to schedule a test ride at our store on Hawthorne Blvd in Southeast Portland
Catrike Factory Ride
Earlier this year, our Catrike factory tour ended with a trail ride guided by Mark Egeland. The tour video is in editing (as of May 2024), but you can get a piece of the Catrike Way as Mark and Janet ride
You can meet Mark at June 15th's Pacific TrikeFest. Test ride some trikes! Enjoy cake! Maybe even win a Catrike Villager!
Learn more at www.pacifictrikefest.com
You can meet Mark at June 15th's Pacific TrikeFest. Test ride some trikes! Enjoy cake! Maybe even win a Catrike Villager!
Learn more at www.pacifictrikefest.com
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TRIKEFEST 2024 June 15th
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Test Ride Catrikes! Meet Vendors! Find Triking Friends! Eat Cake! WIN A CATRIKE VILLAGER!!! www.pacifictrikefest.com
Michelle Rides the VeloChair
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We've mentioned before that VeloChair is one of the coolest things we've seen in years: A wheelchair with pedals. One of our favorite customers, Michelle Huebner, took one for a spin at the Portland Zoo this week. Except for a couple steep up hills - her friend Beka was there to help - Michelle covered a couple miles fully under her own power. Our friends Scott and Diane at Lancaster Recumbents...
TerraCycle For TrikeFest
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Caz - Wearer of Many Hats - welcomes us to TerraCycle to talk about Pacific TrikeFest. T-Cycle will have a whole tent with all the oodles and oodles of cool stuff they make to kit out YOUR trike. Plus a whole day test ridiing Catrikes! And Hot Dogs! And Cake! And, we're giving away a Catrke!!! Pacific TrikeFest June 15th at Portland Community College-Sylvania. www.pacifictrikefest.com
Ben for TrikeFest
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Ben and his dad Tom are training to ride their trikes on the 500 mile rolling party that is Iowa's 2024 Ragbrai. Ben wants you to come to Pacific TrikeFest 2024. Have some fun. Learn about trikes. Get healthier. Live Longer -and also something about vampires.
Bill Herzberg for trikefest
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June 15th's Pacific TrikeFest at PCC-Sylvania is YOUR opportunity to test ride a trike. Triking allows Bill to continue his lifelong love of travel and adventure -including tours through central and eastern Europe, Thailand, Laos, Vietnam and Cambodia and -most recently- Germany. Bill says, "You gotta come. You can't miss it!"
Mary Lou for TrikeFest
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Mary Lou is one of our absolute favorite customers. She's had more surgeries than everyone you know -combined! But, always the most positive attitude on the planet. When she tells you to come test ride at Pacific TrikeFest, you should listen! Or, and did we mention that there's cake?!
Mechanics Paul and Jack for TrikeFest
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The ever-loquacious Mechanic Jack joins Mechanic Paul to welcome you to 2024 Pacific TrikeFest June 15th at PCC-Sylvania.
Penny for Trikefest
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Penny loves riding her trike in Dallas Oregon. If you want to feel the love, come test ride with us on June 15th at PCC-Sylvania. Trikes, motor kits. Hot dogs. Cake (did we say "Cake"? Okay, "Cake". There we said it!).
Ric for TrikeFest
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A longtime, roadie, Ric's Ataxia diagnosis put an end to his two wheel riding. But, a Catrike 559 put him back on the road. How did he know? Test Riding! So, come down to Pacific TrikeFest June 15th at PCC-Sylvania and test ride!
Bruce for TrikeFest
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Bruce and his wife Michelle were searching for exercise that didn't worsen service-related injuries. Trike were their answer! Come visit us at Pacific TrikeFest 2024 to learn all about the magic!
Limited Range of Motion NO LIMIT to Triking
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Limited Range of Motion NO LIMIT to Triking
Totally agree, beware of modifications that are not approved by the manufacturer. As for buying off the internet, I bought my Dumont off of Marketplace. I made an 8 1/2 hour drive to see it and test rode it before I bought it. Prior to this I had ridden several trikes and determined the Dumont was the trike for me. And what I bought was a 3 year old Catrike Dumont in like new condition and at a price that was more than worth driving for a day to get. If you do decide to by used, don’t buy a trike that’s been heavily modified. Do test ride it, never buy one sight unseen or untested. And if possible take to a bike shop and have it looked over for potential issues before you put down any cash. A seller unwilling to let do these things should not be trusted. After you get your trike, temping that it is to just go for a ride, take it into a qualified mechanic, one that is qualified to work on your particular trike and have it serviced, nothing is more annoying then the get down the trail and find out your have a bad tire because the rubber is older than you chain derailer or chain failed because it should have been replaced.
None of these motors have enough power to pull me up hills in northern Wisconsin.
since we’ve never met, I can’t evaluate that claim. you’d be quite an outlier if a 500 watt wouldn’t do the trick
Looks fun and doable
Way to go Janet! Good filming, Mel🎉
Recliners with pedals. I love factory tours! Thanks for sharing!
Hello!😉 Sure, this velochair is a superb product! And the smile that gives to her is really and deeply good. Thanks for sharing and have a great continuation. 😉👍👍👍👌
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Perfect music
can those trikes carry as much gear as a regular bike, like for bikepacking? how does the trike compare to a mountain bike on the trails you were on?
Depends more on the rack than the trike. I've hauled as much as 50lbs on my trike. The performance on trails depends on the trail. If it's rails-to-trail, a trike is great. You wouldn't get one of these down single track, though -too wide. Also, triking is not really conducive to bombing down rutted fire roads -which is why our customers don't do it!
Great opportunity. The best thing to also have is an easy device to measure the X-seam so they can test ride one already set at that approximate length.
We got that covered! All our Catrikes will already be equipped with chain length adjusters. We can set the X-seam to a rider in less than a minute! So, come on down and do some riding!
Trikefest is going to be all about bicycles! Would love to see you guys at Spezi since we can't come ...
SPEZI is fun. Went there 2017 and 2018. We'll be back.
i have a nice looking catrike rear hub, 7-8 gears. i put it on a regular 26 inch wheel for a regular mtb. then i realized, truing this will be a hell, because the freewheel only goes one direction. and this will also create problems during rides. sometimes the bike needs to go backwards, and this mechanism does not allow. any suggestion?
Hi. I'm not understanding your specific situation, so can't give an opinion. Though, it sounds like the hub is "fixie" style., so I agree with you that it doesn't seem workable on a trike.
@@RecumbentPDX no,no i tried to make a classic 26 inch 32 spoke wheel, but it did not work. i like it because it has sealed bearings. however, when installed on the truing stand, it only turns one way. i.e. if you are on a bike, you can not turn the pedals backwards. and this is ok on a trike, but not acceptable for a bike. also, the boss, the organizer of the bike house, asked me to keep it for him, and install it back on a 20 inch wheel for a trike, one day.
just wait till smn places a 29 inch rear wheel.
What's your take on quad vs trike on things like trails, or the beach or pulling a trailer. The nameless outfit aside, companies like TrikExplor, Trisled and Pony4 seem to make reliable quads that would seem to make a favorable argument against a trike. That said, I'm also looking at the ICE Full Fat XL and interested in your opinion.
I don't like quads and I don't like Fat's. That's personal opinion. It informs my professional opinion: I don't sell either. But, my opinions are meaningless -if you can safely enjoy a particular cycle, that's what you should be on!
Hear hear! I bought my 700 in 2008. Since then I have seen all kinds of mods. My response has always been, “If you want a 700, buy a 700,” or whatever trike you really want. Because of the heightened CG, as you mentioned, I didn’t even like the change to 20” wheels in the front, (though I understand the pressure from customers to have more tire options). I tried it and after years of 16” wheels, I felt like I was up high on a Freightliner. I would never risk the kinds of cornering that I do with my original 700, entering a 90° corner at 27mph: czcams.com/video/T8ipMKhmPRc/video.htmlsi=iU9GdtVFHz9_sKh8
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Try again. I'm getting audio. Thanks
Free speach banned in your house - way to go !!! Not very helpful not telling the truth to be nice.
Neither of us is a 1st amendment attorney. Me - because I so state - and you - because your childlike understanding demonstrates it. That said, you are correct: Free speech is not universal in our household. So, understand that if you come to my house to insult my wife or mother-in-law, you’ll be tossed onto the sidewalk. But, if you continue your insults once removed to public property and I hastily re-arrange your facial features, I’ll soon learn that your ACTUAL 1st amendment rights render my “but his big mouth!” legal defense “non-colorable” as the lawyers say. But, DO invite me as an observer when you try that shit after a guest compares your spouse to a bovine and speculates on that strong odor wafting from your MIL -and you then spend the next two weeks on the couch mumbling in your sleep about “free speech”. Because CZcams ain’t a public forum, I could simply delete your silly comment. But, it’s so entertaining that I won’t!
Hi! Super video and Velochair!!!👍 Have a great continuation, and see you. 😉👍👍👍👌
Thank you! 😃
@@RecumbentPDX With pleasure!!!🙏😌
Totally agree with your video and I've been building, riding, and working on trikes for nearly 20 years. I have experience with most brands too. I see no reason for any trike to have front wheels larger than 20 inch. The only good reason to have a larger wheel on the rear is if you are a strong rider and need taller gearing. If you put 24" or 26" wheels on the front of a tadpole trike, you will need a 40 acre field to simply make a turn. There are reasons engineers design things the way they do.
Thank you. We JUST got back from Catrike. Was fortunate to spend time with Justin and Marco -their phenomenal engineers. They spend thousands of hours designing each trike -from concept to CAD-CAM to prototype to production. They know PRECISELY what they're doing. The guys in Utah have zero idea.
Well, I guess I will be the first person to say I have this modification on my Catrike Road AR and I love it. I am currently running the 20 inch rear wheel with the extenders. Gives me the same gearing, but with a longer wheelbase it gives a smoother ride. Have not found the trike tippy with either the 20” or the 26” rear.
America is a wonderful place. You can put your personal opinions into operation through your purchases. But, the fact remains that the Extenders are a demonstrably-dangerous modification to a trike that requires no modification. If I had to speculate, the "squishiness" of the extenders serves as a kind of suspension -smoothing your ride -but at the expense of longterm frame integrity. For fun, you might call the Catrike factory and ask if their drop outs ever break and, if so, whether there is ANY specific modification that routinely causes that breakage!
Where?
We'll be adding details at www.pacifictrikefest.com as the event firms up!
Hello! Great to see how people were happy and/or surprised with trikes! A good short video, so many thanks for it! Have a great continuation, and see you. 😉👍👍👍👌
Thank you!
@@RecumbentPDX ☀️ With pleasure!!!!😉👍
everything but a time date and location.
We'll be adding details at www.pacifictrikefest.com as the event firms up!
Merry Christmas from Wadsworth, OH !
I have a trike Scorpion FS 26 PE hub motor it fails sometimes and I can’t ship it on planes to tour in other countries , so I add a Rohloff 14 speed hub, with my 12 Speed pinion gearbox gives me 152 gears had a great experience touring in New Zealand Climbs over Mountains with ease but with my gear and cameras + the Trike weight it’s slower then I like. Been studying some of the motor you mentioned, kinda know what I want if buy a motor it will be 750 w. Don’t want to buy China, so price determines whether I buy or not! I can see spending $4,000. More on my trike when it’s great as a trail rider, and my Quatrevelo is the fastest bike I have without the need of a motor So I guess I’ve talked my self out buying a motor in writing this comment, thanks for not mentioning prices. By the A scorpion FS 26 can be class 3 moped so 750 motor can be added.
A word of warning: The Pinion-Rohloff combo runs the risk of destroying the Rohloff. The crank must be at least 1.8x the Rohloff Sprocket or it's out of warranty spec. We've done similar builds with Schlumpfs on the front, but it comes with a clear disclaimer to customers. Have a great time out on the road!
‘What a boatload of work !’ (He says with a smile…..!)
Catrikes are NEVER work. Only pleasure!
Hi and many thanks for these beautiful video.👍👍 Dan is a fabulous Man, and what he did and does is really inspiring. I wish him a great continuation, and swear the same to you. ❤❤❤
Many thanks!
@@RecumbentPDX 🙏😌
That is awesome! Encouraging people to get out of the house and enjoy life is so important! Bravo!
Thank you !
That was awesome, Mel. Thanks for sharing. We are sharing this video with loads of people. I think this would be great for physical therapy in assisted living facilities. Amazing potential! We really appreciate you having one for testing.
Thank you! Hope you and Jennifer are having a great time on your Catrikes!
@@RecumbentPDX we love them but we inherited a dog that needs lots of walks so our ride time has shrunk.
This was probably the most amazing thing I saw at Cycle Con this year.
When Pat Franz calls something "amazing", you pay attention!
An excellent video , thank you for taking the time to produce this well thought out video. So we can all make informed decisions…..well done 🍻😃🇨🇦
Thank you! Always happy to get positive feedback
Why we need tilting trikes...the damn turns...
We tried that years ago. SteinTrike made one. We don't stock them anymore if that tells you anything
Can i get a 12 speed in the back?!? And what is the width of rims??? I like 30 mm wide rims...Is there enough room in the back for a 2.5" tire?!?
probably yes to 2.25". I can't speak to 12 speed. The dumont comes stock with a 586% drivetrain range, so unclear the advantage to a 12 speed. The rims are stock from Catrike. they'll handle the 57mm wide Schwalbes. We never do anything wider
Nicely done, Mel! Very informative and clearly presented.
Thanks so much!
This a great Video, very informative. Thank you.
Thank you! Always happy to get feedback!
VERY HELPFUL👍👍
I'm glad it was helpful for you. Have a great time out on the road!
Got a tilting trike???
Nope. Tried a SteinTrike years ago. It was a disaster.
You sound like an upset salesperson who losing a lot of sales to the internet sales company. I bought mine from the internet sales company because they have made it so a person that has a heritable handicap able to get in and out of the trike by raising it up a little so that the rider can get in and out because they are no longer seating so low in a trike that they can get in and out of it. I’ve had mine since 2015 and it doesn’t have anywhere near the sway that the one you showed.
Mark - Oregon has no sales tax, so Utah has almost no affect on our sales. In contrast, the dealers in California and Washington - both high sales tax - get creamed by the no-sales-tax internet retailers like Utah. Now, having effectively demolished your "ulterior motive" theory, we're going to return to the discussion of what's "safe" and "proven" on a trike: Utah's modifications are not. That's why their store policies - which you can google - admit that this kind of dangerous stupidity voids Catrike's warranty. There are PLENTY of manufacturers whose engineers have designed higher seat heights to accommodate your needs. You purchased from a silly internet operation with no employess qualified to determine the safety of their modifications. I wish you safe and enjoyable riding!
I used the Mountain bike version, it works the same but it gives a lower gearing, set on 1 - 1 ore 2,5 - 1 pedal 2,5 rotations to 1 roatation from the blade. It works great.
Schlumpfs are fabulous.
This is a banger video Mel. You really thought this out ahead of time and made a top notch presentation. Thank you!
thank you so much!
Yeah. Very stupid design added to an already solid all American made trike. Sad that many people think this would be cool. Or better. Just unsafe period.
100%!
500 amp hour battery??? WATT HOURS. Great video, very informative.
Yup -got a bit out over my skis on that. Should have said, "watt hours". Thanks for the catch.
Rear wheel. What do you do with the trike to take the rear wheel off? Nobody ever shows an easy way to do this if you get a rear wheel flat. I had to flip the trike upside down, because its a huge pain if the wheel drops out of the trike and you got a dirty chain to deal with and a struggle to remove the tube and put another one on, and you got the chain falling off front and rear sprockets to boot. I had a rear flat once and it was a panic attack, I think it took me almost an hour to gain access to the tube and patch it or swap it out. I don't ride with other people and I have bad vision which makes any flat a terrifying experience. Because of that I buy the Schwalbe Marathon flat proof tires and replace them before they get much wear. The two front wheels are super easy to change or patch the tube. Then pumping the tire back up is a chore, the small pumps are useless, I use a medium length one that has a foot brace you can stand on so you pump against the ground instead of two handed. I would like to see a real world trike video of a person all alone get a rear flat and efficiently and cleanly change the tube without the chain getting all crimped up and in the wrong sprockets. So far I've not had a flat in years, but worry about it every ride I go on. I'm not sure my Catrike Road will fit in our Honda CRV, and at my age 74, being 6 miles from home all alone dealing with the trike upside down, because nobody rides around with a bike stand to make it easy, as most uselessly show us videos ;-) Anyway, riding season is over, rains are back, getting cold again. Summers are just too short here in S. Washington.
On our website, I've got a video - under the service tab - on removing rear wheels. We've spoken with TerraCycle about building a "jack" to drop the rear triangle on, but haven't settled on a good design
@@RecumbentPDX Thats not what I am talking about. I'm talking about being 12 miles from home and you get a rear wheel flat. You don't have a stand for your trike out in the wild on the side of the road with cars rushing by, so dropping the wheel off the bike becomes a panic attack scenario. I had to flip the trike upside down, which is not good because now your shifters and the cables are being crunched with the trike upside down. All the rear tire flat repair videos only show the trike sitting on a professional trike stand, not in a real world scenario. Thats a video I want to see, not a shop video with a professional mechanic making everything look super easy. When I had a rear tire flat, it took probably 45 minutes of swearing and I don't think I actually removed the rear wheel, I had to get the tire off the wheel and patch the tube because removing the wheel, even upside down was just too difficult. Lets see a video shot on a busy highway, with a half blind old man like me and a procedure that a child could easily do. There are no videos like that.
@@davestephens8033 we've spoken with T-Cycle about making a frame-attached built on kickstand, but haven't gotten beyond talks. We have a customer who just props the trike up on his helmet. It gets it three inches of the ground which is the perfect height for dropping out a rear wheel
Ya, I agree. I am 84 and am terrified of flats. Prior to getting my 559, I had a Fuji Sagres on which I put 5000 miles a year and ran Continentals, and one flat in 30,000 miles. In my new 559 I had half a dozen flats in a short order of time, a good percentage due to Presta valve issues. I don’t see any reason for not having Schrader valves on those rims, tires.
I love my Catrike Road, I only wish it had front suspension, but don't really care and it would add too much weight anyway. An electric motor might be nice, but then you have a huge added weight, and if the motor or battery failed further out than I can ride back, it would be a disaster. I wish you guys were up here instead of Portland. Portland traffic is like pulling out your toenails with pliers. We used to live there but moved just North of Vancouver. No income taxes here, much less traffic but we are getting too many people moving here now and traffic is a problem now. The Road is the last cycle of my life, I'm going to be 74 in March, and couldn't afford the high prices of trikes anymore. I got into recumbents in the late 70's and fell in love with laid back cycling, after being a ten speed racing bike kid going back to 1967 or so. The only thing that scares me about the trike is having a flat too far from home, especially on the rear wheel, never happened and I use the flat proof Schwalbe tires for years now and never had one get punctured. Your shop is great, went there once, but wasn't able to afford anything until my Dad passed away and left me some money. I had this small young guy pass me on my Burley two wheel recumbent going down a hill and I thought I'd teach him a lesson and pass his ass.....I could NOT catch up with him at ll. That lit a fire under me to look into recumbent trikes, and here I am riding through all summer as I can. Unfortunately Summer just DIED here and the rains are back, no more riding in 2023 .....
"pulling....toenails"!? I think your exaggerating. No worse than a root canal. Come visit sometime -we'll try to score some Novocain
She's invincible 💪
Yup!
I have ICE FS HD and purchased from the internet site near the Wasacht mountain range. A bracket for the Bafang on the boom. Speaking of kits. I am happy that I did the install install myself. The shop in Arizona, hugely up marked the the last install. And when my battery went, the disappointment of workmanship hacks . Example the battery mains where shortened and crimped with 16 gauge connections… The shop mentioned, sells a built up Rolofh.. A huge mark up for the kits. Thanks for the videoliving in the land of your on your own has made a mechanic out of me… long wait times for repairs. Thanks🎉
We've seen those 16 gauge crimps. I suppose that's sufficient if you live in the desert. Anywhere else -we can say from customers' personal experience- a disaster
I have a hub motor in my rear wheel which broke the original Catrike rear wheel dropouts. It was unrepairable. I bought these UT rear wheel extensions and installed them to fix my trike so it was rideable again. I have a 20 inch wheel in the extensions and I am elated with this setup. My trike handles great and this is working superb for me. The trike corners like it is running on rails. So I can't agree with you on these extensions. I am very thankful Utah Trikes offers them. My trike would be sitting in a junk heap without them. In my opinion Catrike needs to improve their rear wheel dropouts as they are inherently weak and underbuilt. There are other Catrike owners who have had this same problem of the rear wheel dropouts breaking.
Since you didn’t purchase your trike from our shop, I’ve never seen it firsthand. But, I can state - with a high degree of certainty - that the damage incurred was NOT a design defect from Catrike, but instead caused by one or more of the following 1) too-large motor sizing 2) poor installation or 3) improper user care. Catrikes were NOT designed to accept hub motor kits - doing so risked a voided warranty. That said, between 2015 and 2018, our shop installed over two hundred 250 to 500 watt hub motors from Bionx and GoSwissDrive without a frame failure of any kind. The key was properly mating the motor drive force to the frame. A properly-sized and installed torque washer (cart.electricscooterparts.com/hub-motor-torque-washer-for-12mm-axle-type-a-3mm-thick) ensured the motor had enough purchase on the non-drive side drop outs. Cap nuts holding the motor axle in the dropouts would then need to be torque wrenched to the motor manufacturer’s specified Newton-Meters. Finally, wedge-locking washers (www.nord-lock.com/nord-lock/) were required to ensure that, having torqued the cap nuts to the correct Newton-Meters, they maintained that position under the torsional load of the motor and the vibration of the road. Failure to do any of those items would cause the torque of the motor to spin independent of the frame -destroying the dropouts in the process. Clearly, you or your installer failed at these required tasks. That’s not a Catrike problem. There’s good news, though: Having destroyed your Catrike through misuse, you really can’t further damage it. So - other than the risk that the destroyed the dropouts don’t have enough remaining material for a reliable physical connection as required on the Utah dropout extenders (czcams.com/video/gLgJEukTmu4/video.html) with the resulting risk of the whole rear end coming apart while you’re cornering “like it’s riding on rails” and your being injured - I don’t see much else that can go wrong. The wonderful country that we live in allows folks to do what they want with what they own. My professional opinion is that the Utah extenders are poorly-designed and dangerous. Your opinion differs. I wish you a great time out on the road.
Yes, with bigger wheels and higher groundclerance the trike is less stable. As known Enviolo has several different models, for example a model recommended for cargobikes with a 600 W motor with 120 Nm.
enviola’s max spec is 100Nm -on a lead-heavy cargo hub I’ve yet to see on a trike. I’ve seen plenty of igh’s un-sprung by 1000 watt motors. I’ve seen - and have the photos to prove it - half a dozen HP Velotechniks cracked in half by oversized motors
Very informative, I would like to convert my Expedition with a Bosch electric have they upgraded the battery to the 21700s?I Thanks
Not that I know of