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Capturing analog video requires the right equipment and software. It can be an overwhelming topic and you might not know were to start. Our channel provides useful context on all the methods commonly uses, and compares the methods to see which is best, or best for you. We do testing and side-by-side comparisons to answer the questions people most want to know.
A test to see if Digital8-to-firewire is more color accurate than Digital8-to-ATI 9600XT
In a previous video, we concluded that outputting Digital8 to ATI AIW9600XT (via S-Video) rendered a Tide container color that was closer to the real-life container compared to outputting Digital8 camcorder via DV port/firewire.
@TechTVusa suggested that additional tests might be required to validate that conclusion.
In this video, we connect the TRV-330 Digital8 camcorder SVideo out to the JVC VS30U S-Video in. And then output to a Sony KV-1363R 13-inch CRT television and the ATI AIl In Wonder 9600XT for playback on a 15-inch Samsung LCD monitor in VirtualDub, so we can compare them side by side.
@TechTVusa suggested that additional tests might be required to validate that conclusion.
In this video, we connect the TRV-330 Digital8 camcorder SVideo out to the JVC VS30U S-Video in. And then output to a Sony KV-1363R 13-inch CRT television and the ATI AIl In Wonder 9600XT for playback on a 15-inch Samsung LCD monitor in VirtualDub, so we can compare them side by side.
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Does Digital8 camcorder convert Hi8 tape to DV before reconverting to analog for S-Video output?
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This video will compare playback of a Hi8 tape, recorded with a Hi8 camcorder, and then played back with a Hi8 camcorder versus the same tape played back with a Digital8 camcorder. In both cases, we’ll output via S-Video cable to an SD capture device. A viewer wanted to know if playback of a Hi8 (or Video8) tape in a Digital8 camcorder needlessly converted it to DV before outputting it to the S...
Is Digital8 DV passthrough better than MiniDV DV passthrough?
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In this video, I’ll compare using a Digital8 camcorder as a passthrough, versus using a MiniDV camcorder as a passthrough: Hi8 Digital8 Firewire card Hi8 MiniDV Firewire card Then as a bonus, I compare: Hi8 Digital8 Firewire card Hi8 ATI AIW 9600XT Conclusions If you digitize your analog tapes with the DV method, then I think a MiniDV camcorder or a Hi8 produce pretty much identical results. Se...
Better than the Panasonic ES10/15?
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The Panasonic ES10 and ES15 (and ES16) have a richly earned reputation for taming video tape with tearing and flagging. You simply connect your VHS VCR to the video input and then connect the ES10/15/16 to your SD capture device. You therefore use the ES10/15/16 as a passthrough device and its internal circuitry apply a Line TBC effect to wavy videos. In this video, I compared the Panasonic ES1...
What software is best to deinterlace and upscale my video?
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We demonstrate how to convert interlaced video (29.97 fps, 720x480) to progressive video (59.94 fps, 1440x1080) using three difference software: Premiere Pro, Hybrid (QTGMC), and Topaz Video AI (Dione DV). We also show the results of the conversion side by side. Finally, we compared four resizers in Hybrid (NNEDI3, Sinc, Lanczos, Bicubic, and Bilinear). In case you don't want to watch the video...
Do you really need a TBC?
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In previous videos, we explained the best practice was to use a Line TBC and a Frame TBC when capturing analog tapes. In this video, we do some capture tests in VirtualDub 1.9.11 to see how many dropped frames we get but more importantly whether the audio-video stays in sync. We will share the best settings keep audio and video in sync in VirtualDub. Short version: Line TBC and Frame TBC both d...
Should you capture video with ATI 600 or MiniDV camcorder?
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Should you transfer your home movie tapes from a Hi8 camcorder using the ATI TV Wonder 600 capture card or the Sony MiniDV camcorder as a capture device? We compare the visual quality of three methods: 1. Hi8 camcorder ATI TV Wonder 600 (aka ATI 600) 2. Hi8 camcorder MiniDV camcorder in passthrough mode PC firewire card 3. Hi8 camcorder MiniDV camcorder record to tape transfer to PC firewire ca...
Which ATI SD capture device is best?
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I played my VHS tape with the most flagging on a regular Sony VHS player to see how three ATI capture devices handle it. It was a kind of stress test. These are the capture devices I tested: - ATI USB 2.0 - ATI TV Wonder 600 - ATI All-In-Wonder 9600XT The VHS tape contains a cable television recording from 1986, recorded in EP (SLP) mode on a Panasonic Omnivision VHS VCR model PV-1265. It was r...
TBC explained: what is a time base corrector
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If you have researched how to digitize your VHS and analog tape collection, you have probably heard the term time base correctors or TBC. With the help of 40 year old Star Trek action figures, and a few Star Trek and Superman images (to keep all fans happy) I will attempt to explain it 3 minutes. #vhs #videocapture
Vintage camcorder comparison: Hi8 versus MiniDV
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If you want a vintage camcorder, should you buy a Hi8 camcorder or a MiniDV one? We compare new footage recorded with a Sony TRV-17 MiniDV camcorder and a Sony TRV-66 Hi8 camcorder. 00:00 Intro 00:22 Hi8 (S-Video output) versus MiniDV (S-Video output) 01:37 MiniDV (S-Video output) versus MiniDV (Firewire output) 02:42 MiniDV (Firewire output) versus Hi8 (S-Video output) versus iPhone 14 04:25 C...
Comparison: ATI AIW 9600XT vs. MiniDV camcorder
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We compared the digitization of a Video8 tape, recorded in 1998 on RCA Video8 camcorder. We used two workflows: 1. Sony TRV-66 Hi8 camcorder Panasonic ES-15 ATI All-in-Wonder 9600XT saved as AVI file (HuffYUV, chroma subsampling 4:1:1) 2. Sony TRV-66 Hi8 camcorder Sony TRV-17 MiniDV camcorder transferred to Windows 10 via firewire with WinDV software (DVSD codec, chrome subsampling 4:1:1) Both ...
Pinnacle Studio software version 1 (1998)
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Pinnacle sold one of the first consumer non-linear video editing software, the Pinnacle DC10 . Here is the walkthrough or tutorial that came on the CD-ROM. Take note of the professional voice talent, who sounds a lot like the Disney World "Stand clear of the closing doors" guy. Maybe it's him. The CD-ROM also includes the raw AVI camcorder footage used to make A Day in the Park. I include that ...
How to fix a jumpy menu scroll wheel on Sony TRV camcorders
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This Sony TRV-66 Hi8 camcorder uses a wheel instead of up and down buttons to navigate the menu. But the menu is jumpy when I use the wheel. The internet says that Deoxit cleaner for conductive plastics might work. And it does. Sort of.
Comparison: ATI AIW versus Panasonic DVD recorder
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The experts agree that the best way to capture analog video is to use one of the better capture card, like the ATI All-In-Wonder 9600XT. The experts also agree that a DVD recorder will yield sub-optimal results. It will be noisy. And you won't be able to enhance it later because mpeg2 is a lossy format. In this view, we compare the same footage using the two methods. And we need your opinion. I...
VHS to digital: best method for analog-to-digital transfers
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VHS to digital: best method for analog-to-digital transfers
How to include neural filters in Action in Photoshop
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How to include neural filters in Action in Photoshop
How to copy document from Apple IIe emulator to a Windows, Mac, or Linux in 2023
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How to copy document from Apple IIe emulator to a Windows, Mac, or Linux in 2023
How to combine several audio files into one: free and fast method, and you don't need Audacity
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How to combine several audio files into one: free and fast method, and you don't need Audacity
It's a software problem today in a dying analogue hardware world VHS-Decode keeps beating the dying and scapled market 😉
Many folks here are very interested in trying VHS-Decode but even with the instructions the ordering process is not intuitive for the average person. And there’s some DIY once one gets the hardware. I think there is a good market for the RF capture device once someone packages it and sells them, even when factoring in a profit. Perhaps a good business model is Home Assistant where one can set it up themselves and login from a distance but where the Home Assistant founders created a for profit company to offer that service turnkey for those that want it.
@@videocaptureguide what do you mean ordering process? There is multiple avenues and multiple device choices, the whole point is open source high flexibility anyone who reads the homepage of the wiki instantly realises this. The DomesDay Duplicator is 3 clicks from the factory, self-contained flashing guide and software bundle is provided for the two of off shelf dev boards. CX Cards are outright order, clock gen mod is available on the Kofi along with amplifiers, very cheap and easy to modify and afford to break one or two and I also have offered modification as a service for about 2 years now for anyone that reached out via email. I think the average person can easily order everything because it's listed and linked, and there is multiple avenues for support resources. The formatting of the wiki docs even considers people with dyslexia with a heavily biased brake block formatting. So the average person who just won't read well they're just screwed as much as they would be on conventional capture. But with the development of the MISRC we aim to take both the conventional and the RF market, still end users are going to have to tap their decks but that's completely documented with hundreds of units coverd in the wiki.
@@videocaptureguide what do you mean ordering process? The DomesDay Duplicator is 3 clicks from the factory, self-contained flashing guide and software bundle is provided for the two of off shelf dev boards. CX Cards are outright order, clock gen mod is available on the Kofi along with amplifiers, very cheap and easy to modify and afford to break one or two and I also have offered modification as a service for about 2 years now for anyone that reached out via email. I think the average person can easily order everything because it's listed and linked, and there is multiple avenues for support resources. The formatting of the wiki docs even considers people with dyslexia with a heavily biased brake block formatting. So the average person who just won't read well they're just screwed as much as they would be on conventional capture.
@@videocaptureguide Right now the hardware comes in DIY kit bits or order on demand when stocks are built up this is for the clockgen mod and CX Cards are off shelf. The DomesDay Duplicator is turn key all year avalible as long as a vender has the FX3 and DE0 dev boards anyone get ahold of one within 14 days +- at cost, the MIRSC v1.5 has just also dropped as a dev board ready for direct fab order. The order docs are fairly 1-2-3 nowadays and the community support is always around to assist new users to the workflow at all times of the day. There is a kofi store, and I plan on listing more hardware there and sell pre-tested cards, its not a cheep thing to build a buffer for selling physical goods.
Years ago I had a vhs to dvd dubbing deck and I dubbed a vhs tape per the instructions and it looked awful. It was really washed out. Then I tried dubbing the VHS again from another ordinary deck with S-video out and left/right RCA jacks into the DVD recorder side of the original dubbing deck and it looked great so I would guess that the "internal dubbing settings" of the dubbing deck weren't calibrated properly for best results. Either that or the internal dubbing system was just junk.
That would be an interesting comparison video but I don’t have a side by side unit. I have a video on the channel where I compare SD capture (ATI AIW 9600XT) with a DVD recorder mpeg2 file. I will need to redo that test with better footage as the recording I used from the 1990s was a bit unsteady. I think for some people a DVD recorder is quick and easy and doable for their skill level or free time. Other methods produce a better result but I’d rather the tapes get digitized any which way instead of losing them in a flood or through tape degradation.
I received on VHS in VCD quality (288P) on .dat format. It has audio synchronization issues due to frame freezing, slow motion and fast motion in video. I am able to correct it manually by deleting the freezed frames and correction in slow/fast motion. Is it possible to correct the same in any automated way?
i sadly cant get a super vhs player yet but i do have 2 vcrs and a crt tv with one built in
Some VHS VCRs are not bad including Sharp models. Tapes aren’t getting any younger so might as well digitize them with what you have and if you ever get better equipment you can redo the most special tapes.
the diamond vc500 has an issue with wobbly edges that other capture cards dont have i would recommend the i-o data gv-usb2 or a dazzle dvc100
Hello congratulations on your channel I have never seen a channel on CZcams as interesting as yours talking about to digiter VHS video tape,well THANK YOU could you to do a HIBRID tutorial whole All the Best 😍👍
ES15 all the way, but if all I had was the Pioneer it can certainly do the job good enough.
Line TBCs are a must, but frame TBCs still pass dropped or inserted frames, but won't cause dropped or inserted frames by the capture card itself. So if your vcr's internal line tbc has a hiccup on a difficult tape, the frame tbc passes it to the capture card, but without losing sync. It's the same with the DMR-ESxx devices... they can drop and insert internally, but the capture card doesn't drop or insert on it's end. I'm currently digitizing Woodstock 99 weekend... all 65 hours. The broadcast itself had signal glitches... the capture card will freak out and insert tons of frames over a split second glitch, but the DMRs pass it as it looks on the tape, but the capture card doesn't even notice. Personally I picked up a Panasonic WJ-AVE5 video mixer... it has it's own frame tbc, and replaces the line tbc... and has an audio VU meter and sliders to boot. It even fixes top edge tearing. All for a fraction of what an actual frame tbc will cost you. And it doesn't mess with the colors like the DMRs.
Hi my question are: I would like to digitize vhs tapes ( on a super vhs tape player with tbc ) and for the best result is by S video or Scart ? Thanks
Someone asked this question in 2013 at DigitalFAQ and NJRoadfan replued: "Use S-Video. The SCART port on SVHS decks only carries audio and composite video." Source: www.digitalfaq.com/forum/video-restore/5601-capturing-vcr-video.html#post29553 Good luck on your digitization project!
Horrific footage to draw comparisons. Try it again with something stable, like a "talking head." At least we won't get motion sickness! 😮
True. In more recent videos, I recorded new footage on a Hi8 camcorder using a tripod and more steady motion. But in this video, I just used old video I had lying around.
Dose the Sony trv-330 have in and out S video? I want to connect a vcr to it and pass through to capture video.
You can only use this TRV-330 Digital8 camcorder as a passthrough if you output via DV (firewire). There is no way to send analog into the camcorder and passthrough to analog out to an SD capture card.
i have the same vcr, the jvc sr vs30. for vhs tapes, why you dont use windv directly from the MiniDV port of the JVC?
I am working on a video where I compare the DV encoding of the JVC VS30 with that of the Sony TRV-17 MiniDV camcorder. The VS30 DV passthrough is just like using a DV camcorder, which makes this SVHS player quite special. I know that SD capture purists will balk at using DV passthrough, but I think that if one were to find one of these SVHS models, it could be good enough to digitize one's VHS collection.
@@videocaptureguide thank you for your response
Unfortunately, buying a used Frame TBC is a big gamble because there is no way of knowing whether it is in perfect working condition. You could be flushing $2000.00 down the toilet.
That’s a very good point. I think for any decades old electronics that is in that price range one should only buy it if the capacitors have been replaced and or if other work has been done to ensure that it runs for the next 20 or 30 years. I have not used that Grant VCR restoration service but they do the type of work (for a price) that is necessary to justify such high prices.
Is it possible to go from a S-VHS deck to one of these camcorders and then connect to the PC Firewire card? I tried this with my equipment, but both of my camcorders (one is Hi-8 and the other is mini-DV) do not appear to accept a S-VHS input signal. What am I doing wrong?
Yes, you can connect an SVideo cable from SVHS VCR to a MiniDV camcorder, and then output the signal in passthrough mode to your DV out (firewire out). That said, my MiniDV camcorder (Sony TRV-17, circa 2001) has an SVideo input. I assume (?) that all other MiniDV camcorders have such an input, too. Which model do you have? Also, note that one must change a setting in the menu to turn on DV out. If one doesn't set it correctly, then no DV signal will be sent to the DV port out. Re Hi8 camcorders, these do not have a DV out (firewire out) so you cannot accomplish DV passthrough as it doesn't have this feature.
Thank you for the comparison! Will option 2 (source - DV - firewire) result in a better outcome in terms of picture quality compare to option 3 (analog with SVHS output- analog/HDMI - hdmi/usb)? These two options may be more available than option 1 and wanted to get your opinion. Thanks again.
DV passthrough produces a very nice video file and is good enough for most situation. The MiniDV camcorders in passthrough mode will stabilize jittery video and look good. The only drawback is that it uses a compressed video format and a compressed color (4:1:1) that some experts poo poo. If you go the SD capture route there are a lot of crappy devices and many are windows only. Some are overpriced like the medium Elgato. The GV USB2 is well respected by people I respect. Some ATI devices (ATI 600) are still sworn by by experts. I’ve come to the view that there are several ways to achieve acceptable results. Depends on what used devices are available locally at a good price.
This is a good comparison video. Thank you!
u need to do a video on the VHS decode method. not a lot of videos out there and ur way of explaining things is very helpful.
It would be very happy to get the RF capture devices. So far I get as far as the website that sells the components and I give up when I read the instructions on how to buy the cards. That doesn’t include the DIY stuff that needs to be done to combine them. That’s why I haven’t tried it yet. I’m pretty sure I can figure out the capture and post capture. But getting the hardware and connecting it is my main problem. I salute the people with the DIY skills and brains to get past those hurdles.
@@videocaptureguide I totally get it. I said the same thing to Harrypm on his channel. he replied with: "I do plan on making a video about a full hardware installation with adjusting a new impedance matched amplifier and without". Let's hope that comes out soon and does a better job shedding light on it than the wiki page, which is a mouthful.
Do you know what optical drive/disk drive is in the Panasonic DMR-ES15? I need a replacement on mine…
I don't know. I opened it up to have a look but there are no markings that would help. I had one unit where the dvd drive didn't work. I tried a dvd cleaner disk but it didn't help. You could try opening the case and cleaning the lens manually. Since I only use the ES15 (and ES16) in passthrough mode, I don't even use the DVD recorder anyway.
I feel like the upscaler + hdmi capture card overall is not the best way, but if you are a person who just wants to digitize your vhs tapes its an acceptable way, because some people tend to buy those 15 dollar easycaps and get garbage results. I sadly got tricked to it and bought a hauppauge usb live 2 and it produces veery blocky results, when i bought an upscaler and the hdmi capture card it looked soo much better. So yeah the upscaler + hdmi capture card is not the best way overall, but if you have like 10 vhs tapes its a good way.
Yes, I think you are right. There are good SD capture devices and bad ones. Same with HDMI capture. So when discussing this point in future, I will make sure to mention that it depends. I didn't mention DV passthrough transfer in this video, which was an oversight. I mentioned it as a viable option in subsequent videos. The good think about DV passthrough is that the results are consistent and very acceptable. So in many ways, DV passthrough is probably the safest choice for someone who doesn't want to spend a lot of time tracking down the recommended SD capture devices or HDMI ones.
Hello all, I'm new to this and was wondering, is there a video or tutorial to help me get started with deinterlacing some Video 8 PAL analogue footage to digital with my MacBook Pro? I have OBS and CapCut but bewildered with so many settings I get confused. Would really appreciate a step by step video or tutorial. Hope someone can help. Many thanks. Steven. U.K.
Is your video already captured (digitized) and you would like step by step instructions on how to deinterlace (make progressive) with Hybrid?
@@videocaptureguide No not converted yet, too many setting to know what to choose. I have OBS and capcut. I understand Hybrid is quiet costly. This is mainly needed for a one off conversion for now at least. I'm using my MacBook Pro M1 Max, not WIndows system for info. Thanking you in advance. Steven.
I will publish a future video with more details on how to deinterlace. Hybrid is a free software. And while it can feel overwhelming, there are only a few screens that one needs to use.
@@videocaptureguide Thank you. I look forward to that video.
I kind of wonder about this 59.9 fps gospel for 29.9 video. Let's say your capture chain actually delivers ~30 half-frames per second. Now, to deinterlace, you're either going Bob (double the scan line in each half-frame to fill the screen and cut your vertical resolution) or Weave (comine/blend the 2 half fields, keeping your vertical resolution but getting combing artifacts and lower temporal resolution). Or a combination of both (bwdiff). But in neither case are you going to create "more" frames than 30. (Yes, I hear some advanced algorithms look across many frames/field and interpolate entirely new frames, these could output more than 30 fps I guess, but it is unclear to me if they are allowed to do so in the processing chains you and I use.) If you crank the frame rate up AFTER the deinterlacer, well, yes, that's maybe going to do temporal interpolation to create new frames, and the increased, synthesized temporal resolution may make motion look better to the eye, but that would be true if that was done to any lower FPS source material. I just did a test with some fast motion video of a pumpkin rolling down a hill (don't ask) and did the scale/deinterlace/frame-rate transform with this Perplexity-generated ffmpeg command: ffmpeg -i input.mp4 -vf "bwdif=mode=1:parity=tff:deint=all,scale=1440:1080:flags=lanczos" -r 59.94 -c:v prores_ks -profile:v 3 -vendor apl0 -bits_per_mb 8000 -pix_fmt yuv422p10le -c:a pcm_s16le output.mov Looking at the results in Final Cut with all of its local viewer deinterlacing and field-forcing turned off what I see is a weird repeat of earlier frames, seemingly to "pad" the time. So when the camera is zooming in, looking at it frame by frame, I see it go in-out-in-out-in-out. Mind you, it looks fine running "at speed." But doing a simple upscale without frame rate change the zoom just goes in-in-in-in as you'd expect. And to my eye looks no different, and maybe better than the 60 fps version. I get that, intuitively, giving the deinterlacer double the frame rate room to "spread out" seems logical, but I don't think the deinterlace filters we commonly use do that, or, if we use an exotic deinterlacer like VapourSynth that might want to create new frames (I don't know if it actually does) if it would be allowed to do so since framerate conversion and deinterlacing are separate, isolated blocks in our processing chain. Right now, for me, I don't see enough (or any) difference between 29.97 and 59.94 to justify the massive increase in the size of my Prores 422 intermediate files. But I'm interested to know where my thinking has gone wrong since so many people seem to swear by this 60 fps mantra.
I read your comment a few times as there is a lot to it. I'm not an expert in deinterlacing or the theories. As a next step I would suggest you repeat the steps but this time add a line of code to indicate if it's a top field first or bottom field first source video (ie, SD capture or DV transfer). The symptom you described with the pumpkin roll reminds me of what happens when TFF is used on a MiniDV video, and vice versa. Then I suggest you try QTGMC deinterlacer to verify if it does the same thing or not in the pumpkin video.
It starts with the actual fps of your source. Interlaced NTSC has both 29.97 and 30.00, but broadcast is 29.97 as it was easier to transmit than 30.00. So when you deinterlace, you're joining both top field and bottom field into a single frame, so 29.97 becomes 59.94. Increasing it to 30/60 is possible, but it speeds up the audio. But as for combing artifacts, it comes down to the algorithm you choose... the better the algorithm, the less chance of artifacts.
@@michaelbinbc No, I don’t think that’s true. That’s not how deinterlacing algorithms work as I tried (poorly) to explain in the comment above. I’m traveling now so can’t get into it further, but I may return to this when I return home.
@@WardCogo ask on an actual video editing site like Blackmagic... the makers of Davinci Resolve editing software. Industry professionals will give the same response. Bob only uses 1 field at a time, but interpolates the missing data, while weaving the 2 fields into a single frame at 2x the fps gives all the data and looks far superior. And broadcast interkaced NTSC in North America is 29.97, not 30. They have 30fps videos, but not for broadcast. It comes down to data rate and the ability to broadcast both color and stereo audio. But hey... believe what you want I guess.🙄
btw, it looks like you typo'd 0 as 9 every time the Pioneer model number appears in the video description.
Thank you for this video. Very well explained.
Converting internally to DV depends on the Digital8 camera model. Some most definitely do, while others have diagrams suggesting those do not. Thus the general advice is to avoid Digital8 as Hi8 players, for this reason. Too variable, unknowns, extra work and testing. If you want to deep dive, you can do so. But given that Hi8 cameras are usually cheaper to acquire than Digital8 cameras, it's somewhat moot. Few people have Digital8 tapes, and especially both Hi8 and Digital8, so a need to do both is tiny.
Good point. I found a Digital8 on Facebook Marketplace and the price was lower than elsewhere. Was curious about it and figured it would be good for comparison tests and in case someone has Digital8 recordings.
I bought my first video capture card in 1998 and it was the Pinnacle DC10+.
Thanks for much for time and effort to create this video and the comparisons! One of the many things you showed is that there are effective lower cost options for improving analog video vs spending thousands of dollars for a standalone TBC. Kudos to you!
You're welcome. But to be clear, these devices have a line TBC to help prevent wavy and flaggy video image. Those very expensive frame TBC devices are for creating a stable signal, which is meant to prevent audio and video from going out of sync. In another video I argue that the average person was avoid the need for that by using the right settings in VirtualDub. Cheers.
I'm a bit of a old school videophile and have to agree with everything in the video. I do have to say however understand a working svhs player will cost you $250 to $300 on ebay. A tbc will cost you nearly a grand and an svhs player with tbc will cost you a grand and might only come up on ebay once per month. Be careful with professional decks too because some only play tapes recorded in sp speed.
This method is also flawed. You do realize your white balance could be off? That would make something orange turn red. Having said that your DV camcorder may not be color accurate but the ADVC 110 and Intensity Shuttle are. Keep in mind the ADVC 110 and Intensity Shuttle can allow you to see the video while capturing on broadcast quality hardware. Your capture devices cannot do that. Why do you think that is? Do you think professionals would buy the Canopus and Blackmagic Design products if they were not color accurate and made orange items turn red? Most people bought products like the ADVC 110 and Intensity Shuttle so they could playback video to professional broadcast compliant hardware for accurate color correction. Do you see my point? You have to connect the Hi-8 camcorder into your TV. You then capture the Hi tape using your Firwewire DV camcorder. You then place the DV-25 video file into the Premiere Pro timeline and output back to your TV using the Intensity Shuttle or the ADVC 110. You will notice Premiere Pro, the ADVC 110 and the Intensity Shuttle are color accurate. The red, orange, blue, yellow, green, etc. will look identical. My video that you watched demonstrated this. You could leave a link to my video in the description box.
around the 1:20 mark the ati output aspect ratio is stretched horizontally. the container is about 10-15% wider in that capture. yes, it does appear more orange than the d8 on the left. something to consider here is white balance. davinci resolve will let you do a 1:1 comparison of the colors. have a look czcams.com/video/HbdESEtlKfI/video.html
He has several videos where the ATI aspect ratio is wrong yet he never mentions that in the video. People like you and me have to point it out. For the record the video link you posted wouldn't allow a person to tell if the ATI or DV was more color accurate. What does the video look like when you connect the Hi-8 directly to a TV? What dose the Hi-8 video look like once it is captured to the computer and output back the same TV using Resolve and the Intensity Shuttle? Would the ATI or DV camcorder be more accurate to the original hi-8 tape? That type of test will show who the winner is. If you capture Hi-8 tapes using the ADVC 110 or the Intensity Shuttle the colors will match the original hHi-8 tape 100%. You cannot do better than that. I have several videos demonstrating this.
You proved it doesn't matter No one cares. no one will ever ask while watching the converted video, how it got there, this is Karen nitpicking, Its like audiophiles and the cable wars. no correct wrong or right answer, as long as it works. no obvious loss of detail, TBC good, suspect color differences?? you have to fight to prove which one is correct??? and then the silliness of judging via YT via my monitor? just like audiophiles auditioning expensive loudspeakers they will never afford via a YT through their headphones.
I agree that when one considers how much better video is in 2024, it can seem silly to worry about small differences SD video. The counter argument, however, is that because the quality isn't great, you have to fight for every small improvement. But in general I agree that one's time could be better used reading a good book or watching Quentin Tarantino movies.
@@videocaptureguide usually I apply a touch of sharpening to every analog (&DV) I convert to ensure detail is preserved, and a touch of color saturation, noise if part of life , want to make sure its all there (despite HEVC requires higher rates & hates noise), I archive to HEVC, 5000-8000 can't afford the storage for proress or lossless and the degradation is minimal for SD.
In my opinion, you can mess with software like Hybrid all you want, but it's not terribly helpful when upscaling. I get better results using TOPAZ Video AI for upscaling. On another note, NEVER delete your original (native) 720 x 480 captured video files. There will be more AI algorithms arriving in the future that will be even better when upscaling your original video than what we've seen up to now. So, your native standard definition files are like having "digital negatives." When you want to re-purpose the file in the future, using newer and better tools, you'll be able to work from the original capture files.
ALWAYS press play on the VCR and let it run for a few seconds BEFORE you start recording in VideoDub. Very important!
Great video as usual! I think the only way you can test for accuracy is to output a known pattern such as 75% NTSC color bars and look at the captured files with a software-based vectorscope. I’d say use a test pattern DVD as the source, but you won’t really know that the DVD player colors are accurate without a hardware vectorscope. Dedicated pattern generators are rarely going to be off by much, so it’s probably safe to assume it’s accurate enough for these testing purposes. It’s also possible that the advc110 is more accurate than the Sony conversion chips, so both TechTVusa and you could be right. I will say in the other comparisons I’ve seen, usually color accuracy isn’t the difference seen between ADVC110-captured-DV and other cards, so it could be a Sony-DV-chip specific thing.
I told Video Capture Guide his camcorder may not be color accurate but the ADVC 110 and Intensity Shuttle are. He has seen my video that demonstrates this beyond a shadow of a doubt. Professionals would not buy the products from Canopus or Backmagic Design if they made orange items turn red.
@videocaptureguide If you're willing to share your mailing address with me, I may be able to record for you a Hi8 tape containing SMPTE colorbars and other test patterns. I have a rackmount unit with TSG mode containing 33 test patterns. After recording to Hi8, I can camcorder a video off-screen my WFM/vectorscope showing the levels as recorded to tape. I have 2 Hi8 cams and 1 pro Hi8 deck. So we can see how all 3 interpret the signal in the analog domain and then compare to your capture workflow.
Can you actually set HUE in the service menu on the D8 camcorder? This is a purely rhetorical question, as this is normally done with software, but a German TV station once broadcasted with maximum color offset for Betacam SP Playback, because they forgot to adjust the Y-delay after repairing a Sony DVW-A500P.