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Fascinating. Thank you

unfortunately, my mind is super resistant to any kind of formal study, so i am not a person who could ever manage to stick to flashcards (especially when it comes to something like language learning). i threw out the idea of using SRS about a week after attempting it, so instead, a lot of my learning of my target language, chinese, has been heavily, heavily based on taking in content in some form (books, podcasts, and youtube/bilibili videos mainly). in my case, it's worked very well in the 8 months i’ve been learning the language. i think there's a sense of natural repetition that comes from interacting with a language in this way, where the word appears at the frequency that it naturally occurs at in the language. i don’t personally know if SRS/anki can manage to represent the natural frequency of words (as well as grammatical concepts), but the actual language itself certainly can. i’m sure SRS/anki works for people, just not me. i am much less structured in my approach, though. i don’t typically do what you’ve been doing with repeating watching specific content, even if it is probably beneficial. though i will occasionally revisit a video i liked when i first watched it months later as a sort of “benchmark” to see how much i’ve progressed in comprehension. i also don’t really aim for 100% understanding of all the words, just a general feeling of “yep, i understood enough where it feels like i got something out of this”. i mostly look up words when it’s come up enough times that it feels vital to what’s being conveyed, at which point, my brain has probably noted it as significant enough that it’s more willing to hold onto the meaning. it does require being comfortable with that ambiguity from not grasping every single detail of the content you’re taking in, though. though, my primary goal is comprehension of chinese media (especially reading chinese books), so this works particularly well for my personal goals. i’ve read a couple of books written for native adults at this point, so it’s worked pretty well for i initially wanted to accomplish. i’m sure most other language learners have the goal of communicating with others, so that might require different approaches. though at this point i’m so in love with the language learning process that i’ve been starting working on communicating with others :)

Anki is a huge waste of time. 15 years ago, I used to spend days on end making complicated cards with images, sounds, and formatted with Latex... and having more sides than index cards can have in the 3 conventional physical world.

Português sensacional! Meus parabéns 😃👏

interesting video to begin to enter more languages in a more educational way, thanks for sharing the advice.

I completely agree with you, I also used Anki to learn English vocabulary, the huge amount of vocabulary made me very tired, and creating cards also took quite a while even with add-ons. image and audio support

I still using Anki for Japanese and even for English. The problem is that people don't suspend old flashcard for example if I see that I'm gonna review one word in over ten mounths I'll inmediality suspend it because is a word I see with frequency in my immersion journey.

I’ve been studying Portuguese for almost 10 years and I’ve visited Brasil 18 times but I still can’t read or converse and I have to translate everything into English to understand. I practice every day with my girlfriend and have been doing it for 6.5 years but I still can’t understand her . She only speaks Portuguese so we’ve never had a conversation yet.

great video Julian!!!! Very interesting

To any learners out there, don’t be scared of learning to read! It’s actually easier that you expect. With exposure, you will naturally start remembering characters. Learning the characters helps you differentiate between vocabulary that sound exactly the same too. The thing you can feasibly disregard (if you’re not planning to work/study in China) is writing. Because, these days, the need to write by hand is next to never and most Chinese people begin to forget how to write properly after completing education anyways. Not saying it’s ideal, but reading is definitely a lot more important than writing.

How come the Chinese can learn to speak, listen and write at the same time and others cannot?

Ni är superduktiga, all min respekt till er :D.

Good but youre speaking russian not kazakh. So just use another flag instead

Zuì hâo de bànfâ shì, xiān yòng pīnyīn xuéhuìle Hànyû, ránhòu zài xué hànzì. Bùyào ràng hànzì tuōle nî de hòutuî, shî nî de qiánjìn bùfá biàn dé chíhuân, shènzhì wàng'érshēngwèi, guôzú-bùqián. Nî shì duì de, nî dāngchū de xiângfâ cái shì duì de.

Use the book "Remembering the Hanzi" and Anki. You only need to be able to read.

Bro! I can really see your passion learning Chinese. I watched the whole video even if i don't know a thing or two about the language 😂. Good luck to your journey! I remember when we met half a year a go, you only knew the basic stuff. I'm surprised how far you've been. And I'm excited what will be your progress in the near future! I am so proud! and I'm sure she is proud too!

Why no screen shot ?

Sei sempre il migliore❤

I want share that mistake with you so you don't do the same thing.

Actually I would recommend to ignore Chinese characters and PinYin all together at the beginning stage and focus on listening only! Watch/listen to a lot of Comprehensible Input in Chinese. When we Chinese natives started learning Chinese characters/PinYin, we were speaking Chinese fluently for years already. Start reading/writing too early will unavoidably give you some bad pronunciation/accent (you would read the Chinese subconsciously with the incorrect pronunciation/tone guaranteed). If you can find native Chinese speakers to crosstalk with, that will be the best approach.

While useful in the beginning, I soon found pinyin to be a hindrance. Certain reading materials had pinyin underneath the characters and it was hard for me to stop relying on it as a pronunciation reference. Written Chinese also lacks punctuation in places where I'd expect it to appear in English. This means that I sometimes have to re-read a sentence several times before I understand its meaning. Another thing I find challenging is when compound words are separated within a sentence--which, again, initially makes it hard for me to follow. An example might be the word 当面 which means 'face to face' in the sentence 他回到他住的小房子里，弄了点儿水和沙子，放在一个杯子里，当着村里人的面对着水说了些连他自己听不懂的话，然后给病人喝下去。

I think it is key to know the Chinese characters. You don't need to write them, but recognizing them is vital. They are super helpful, as they give you context in situations where words may sound the same or be similar, and sometimes they can also give you hints on how a character is pronounced and its meaning. Having to learn characters may be something that seems different from learning other languages with alphabets, as you will usually have to use spaced repetition learning so you don't forget them (I recommend Anki). But I think it is convenient in the end, as it provides structure to your learning:)

In my case, I've been learning Mandarin for two years, more or less seriously, and actually I know around two thousand Hanzi, but I cannot listen Mandarin properly. I took calligraphy classes and besides, I love new writing systems and now a lot of them. For example, I can read devanagari or hangeul, but I don't speak Hindi, Korean, Sanskrit... I have a huge problem now, because I can read in Chinese, even in Cantonese sometimes, but listen is too difficult. I'm increasing, but it spends a lot of more time. When other people speak about how difficult Hanzi are, I just can think about how more difficult learn Mandarin is, gathering Hanzi and the hard phonology. This is the fourth language that I'm learning. I can speak Portuguese (native), English, German and Mandarin. Maybe, awkwardly, I speak Mandarin better than a listen. It's strange. It happens due to the huge amount of synonyms in Mandarin. Of course, perfect synonyms are not true. In my experience, I learned that listen a lot is much more important. I don't now, but for me, Hanzi is a kind of memory hack. I can remember a lot of strange thinks with easy-to-catch Hanzi. 凹凸 are two Hanzi that follow this.

Anki the HSK word-lists, read graded readers, read HSK textbooks and write out the first 600 or so characters a few time each then forget about writing until much later. Writing the first few hundred helps you recognise character components, and also the strokes so you can use a dictionary better. As a beginner your focus should be primarily on listening, then words, and being able to recognise the characters for those words

As a chinese native speaker, i would suggest that there's no need put too much effort practicing writing the charaters, since you can type them easily in pinyin, people here in China often "forget how to write the character the moment picking up the pen" so it's not a big deal, BUT it's definitely essential to recognize and read the characters because of the reason given in the video

dictation exercise （听写） indeed was the way we used to learn the characters. Bit by bit you will master it! 加油

This is great! I've been wondering if you would jump into an East Asian Language and you do not disappoint!

No estoy de acuerdo contigo. Usar el marco común europeo es una guía estandarizada para saber dónde estás parado y qué es lo que te falta para llegar a hablar mejor y comprender más del idioma. No es bueno aprender sin una brújula que te indique la dirección a donde debes ir.

Excellent video and very well spoken! And just wondering, what is your musical instrument?

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so, the problem i have with "comprehensible input", is finding it. by that i mean, most comprehensible input videos ive seen are in fact incomprehensible. your mind can't process new information fast enough, you're not speaking, absorbing, repeating, making use of it. your mind knows what you need and dont need. a visceral relationship has to be established, or your mind won't bother keeping it around long.

Да ли знаш српски? У сваком случају захваљујем на добрим саветима!

For Japanese in my particular case, I decided early on that becoming a competent writer of Kanji would be prohibitively time-consuming, so as you said, I'll leave that task to the machines and focus on listening, speaking, and reading.

les 3 dernière chaines sont trep recommandable mais les 2 premier choix sont discutable ps : quasi toute ton audience est française je crois...

Trop bizarres de voir Jamy chez une personne n'ayant pas comme langue natal le français. Sinon merci pour la vidéo qui peut vraiment aidé des gens.

Je suis français mais j'ai quand même regarder mdr

Jamy est une très bonne chaîne, avant qu'il fasse une émission qui s'appellait "c'est pas sorcier", c'est une émission très connue en france. Tu as 100% raison de conseiller jamy et micode .

good video. PS: le Français et ma langue maternelle

Feels so good to finally understand Swedish! 2 months ago I would't had understood any word...podcasts really help hahah

No, Hitler was not an agent or informant of the Reichswehr. where did you get this nonsense from?

you should translate this into english, i cannot understand anything...even automatic translation is not available. I am interested in language learning and I love your videos but I only know 5 langs and Swedish is not one of them

I used to live in Japan, used to go to bars, get pissed up and would talk not stop, not caring about my mistakes. Unfortunately I kind of had a dependance on it and during the day it could be like losing a superpower.

i hate alcohol i need to learn Bulgarian to convince drunk Bulgarian people to not punch me for no reason but people from my own country are just as bad with the alcohol .maybe i should learn Arabic move to Qatar

I think passion helps but it depends on the language like if you have passion for languages large or medium population languages like Spanish or even Czech or Khmer you will succeed if you got enough passion. but with low population languages it will probably not work since at least from my experience smaller languages don't have much media that is entertaining in the best case you get stuff like sports coverage and regional news and some decent literature or very low budget movies. but sometimes you pretty much only got religious media and other random things you don't care about so this will cause you to lose your passion. for me i noticed this with Albanian there is media in this language but its very boring reminds me of daytime tv in the year 2004. so while i was interested in this language because of history i got sick of it when i realised almost nobody online was even talking about Albanian history in Albanian I also noticed a lot of Americans what to learn Irish as their 2nd language because of their ancestry but they know nothing about it and will get frustrated and disappointed when they find out its an endangered language that is quite difficult and different from English. for me when i started learning Irish i didn't think it was a waste of time since i was already learning a bunch of languages. but if this was my 2nd or 3rd language i would have probably not bothered with learning other languages because of the disappointment. i also think difficulty matters with very big languages like Japanese it doesn't matter that its hard but with smaller languages it does matter. like when i learned Luxembourgish and Frisian i thought it was fun since it only took me a few weeks for me to understand things. but when i tried to learn Samoan it was really frustrating since it was difficult and i had to watch things i didn't like and i have to earn so much vocabulary that i almost never use .and i would rather have spend that time improving my Japanese and it felt like a waste of time .

para ser gallego tio hablas bien we xD

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Pero como se te ocurre recomendar el canal del Dr. La Rosa? Videos pseudocientíficos colmos de retórica sensacionalista y sin sustancia. Es solo un amarillo verborreo de huecas palabras. No aporta nada.