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Either come up with your own review, or stop complaining and chill out.

just wait till the summer humidity hits lol Florida sucks

It does work, the difference in feeling is very minimum, unless you are a Pro it wont make much of a difference

Did you find the answer now? I bought a seaside, and now looking for a generate speed either

I use the the Mick Fanning Large 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

when you look at keel fins the fin goes farther out then the limitation of the fin box, if that makes sense. So the fin being longer from nose to tail of the board holdes the water better and just gives more speed that twin fins which simular to thruster just fit the length of the fin box. The keel fins have a more smooth arch and instead of bending far from the board just slope towards the tail. The twins have no center fin meaning less drag and more slidy when it comes to turns and same with the keels but they hold a line better because of the extension of the fin. i feel like i explained this terribly but hope it helps

why brochado. No need nagative vibes dude.

No - but sounds fun!

Hey Luis! Higher ride number = looser feel - Lower ride number = stiffer feel: If you want fins for small waves, pick the higher ride #, for larger waves pick the lower ride #. Hope this helps!

Which ones did you choose? I went with the Pyzels and they GO

@@MarleyOrdonezPOV I went for the mayhem ones! They are fantastic for medium waves, but I think they really perform with bigger waves

Possibly - it will definitely be faster as a twin than a thruster! Could be a good call for small waves :)

Hard choice! I prefer the EA's - good mix of speed + control.

did you get blackstix eventually?

@@jose2x784 Yes, but I switched back to large fins. Now im riding fcs 2 Felipe Toledo fins. Honestly, I didn't feel much difference in flex, but you do feel the size difference of fins. I haven't had the opportunity to buy much fins, so im sticking with the larges.

@@AdrianIrizarry what's the difference in feel? More hold?

@@jose2x784 exactly, the board feels a bit harder to maneuver. pros of large: you can push way harder and gain more speed. Like a high gear on a car. pros of large: you can trust the fins when doing carves. Pros of medium: They feel a lot looser and you have more release. Cons: not as capable of generating speed like the larges. Depends on your weight, these are things that can affect your surfing. But the best way to improve is watching yourself from the beach view and correct your technique. Yeww! God bless!

EA Blackstix might be the call - they have a lower ride # so you should have a touch more versatility in all conditions.

Appreciate your support and stoke - come stop by next time you're in SC!

Where in the 1904 do you live? I used to manage Emerald City surf & sport Coronado.

Let me start with the following disclaimer “I am a beginner intermediate surfer and fall between small and medium size”. That being said, I own regular blackstix in small, EA blackstix in medium and AM’s in honeycomb and blackstix construction in medium among others. The biggest factor for me was the area. Because I am in between sizes I struggled to find the right size and how that translated to surfboard feel. Once I found what works for me area wise, I looked at construction and template. Machado has two fin designs, a rake template and a pivot template both in blackstix and both in Large only. If your a large size then the pivot template for small surf is the best option. The AM’s have a very distinct rake template and a smaller middle fin. Good for a daily driver (3-7 ft). You can switch between constructions depending on wave energy and size without a radical change in template. However, these have the most area in there respective size but come in all three sizes. EA blackstix come only in medium. They have equal size fins and have a rake template. These are to too much area for me. If you are a heavier on the medium scale and/or a powerful surfer you can manhandle these fins to get them to work. My opinion for small waves…..If you are small get the regular small blackstix. If your between small/medium get the HS2 (my fav) or slightly more area P6. If you are a solid medium get the P6 or for more drive the Machado large pivot P8 or the HS1. If you are large get the Machado large pivot or HS1.

@@kelvinbatista9259 Thank you so much for the in-depth analysis! Stoked to hear your experience on the different templates and how they worked for you :)

Each one of these fins has a Futures "ride number". The Futures ride #'s factor in the flex, template shape and construction of the fin to simply the feel of the fin. Ride #'s closer to the number 1 give a more controlled feel (better for bigger waves) and ride #'s closer to 10 give a more speed-generating feel (better for smaller waves). The fin with the highest ride # out of your choices would be the Machado Blackstix, with a ride # of 9.8. Because of this, the Machado Blackstix should be a great bet for small waves :)

*simplify

Wow thank you both for your help

Super springy!

Yes they do!

#77 has more aggressive entry and exit rocker than the I72. It's stock dimensions are longer and skinnier at the same volume. The #77 will work best in steep, punchy larger waves in the 4-10 foot range and the I72 is best suited for average 2-6 foot waves.

They should feel similar and different in some aspects. The seaside Quads will provide more hold, drive and control as you have two extra fins in the set to stabilize your board. The Machado keel twins should feel faster and looser, as there are only two fins in the set. They are both similar templates (same construction, similar shape) and should be fun for similar waves - the quads just give a bit more hold and the twins go a bit faster :)

I use both the quads and keels in my seaside and in my seaside and beyond. Like Midtown Surf Shop said, they are very similar except you will lose some drive with the keels butl gain down the line speed. If you like the Machado quads, then this is the best keel set for you since they will perform predictably from the first surf. Just don't push too hard through your turns or you will likely slide out until you get the fins dialed in. I like these keels in my SS&B on small days since they make the larger SS&B move maneuverable and faster than the board is with the quads. However, on chest and up I prefer the quads for added control. I pop the keels into my 5'7 seaside when we have clean waist to shoulder high conditions and the waves are better suited to more drawn out turning. I have tried 4 different keel sets and while the AMK's were a close second, I like how the Mchados pivot better in smaller conditions.. I think the AMK's are the best all round keel for people who like to surf twins most of the time and for riding a keel fin in better and bigger surf. At 175lbs I found the AMK's provide too much hold for my liking in smaller surf and the raked out design makes your turns too drawn out for me. Machados for the win :)

@@benjaminm5232 what size of seaside and beyond do you have ? Also, did you see machado released a new "improved" quad for the seaside ? How do you feel about those vs the og ?

I have this board and a regular driver 2.0. driver has a little more glide speed, i72 is smoother all around. both are great. I like i72 better.

@@stevelee6364 Hi Steve, is it faster than a monstabox ?

yes!

We would love to - when we get some HT2.5's in stock we will!