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Videos from the Missoula Nordic Ski Club
Four Basic Classic Ski Techniques Explained
The Missoula Nordic Ski Club demonstrates the four basic techniques of classic skiing:
Striding (or 'diagonal stride') - it's like a low gear for starting, easy skiing, and uphills
Double Pole - it's like a high gear for high speeds on flats, downhills and gradual uphills
Kick Double Pole - a medium gear for accelerating, flats and gradual uphills
Herringbone - the lowest gear for going up steep hills, or easy and relaxed hill climbing.
Plus a brief overview of grip/kickwax, skins, fishscales, "waxless" skis, etc.
More technique videos
Three Basic Skate ski techniques: czcams.com/video/_KxUZkVcqpk/video.html
Overview of All Four Techniques: czcams.com/video/4aQVNyY52Pc/video.html
Striding: czcams.com/video/6NST1N6-P28/video.html
Herringbone: czcams.com/video/JdvUibe750k/video.html
Double Pole: czcams.com/video/BBa2fPziRl0/video.html
Kick Double Pole: czcams.com/video/a7itYppe8xk/video.html
Grip: czcams.com/video/I8iGqr9ZZN0/video.html
Filmed at Lolo Pass on the Montana/Idaho border
Striding (or 'diagonal stride') - it's like a low gear for starting, easy skiing, and uphills
Double Pole - it's like a high gear for high speeds on flats, downhills and gradual uphills
Kick Double Pole - a medium gear for accelerating, flats and gradual uphills
Herringbone - the lowest gear for going up steep hills, or easy and relaxed hill climbing.
Plus a brief overview of grip/kickwax, skins, fishscales, "waxless" skis, etc.
More technique videos
Three Basic Skate ski techniques: czcams.com/video/_KxUZkVcqpk/video.html
Overview of All Four Techniques: czcams.com/video/4aQVNyY52Pc/video.html
Striding: czcams.com/video/6NST1N6-P28/video.html
Herringbone: czcams.com/video/JdvUibe750k/video.html
Double Pole: czcams.com/video/BBa2fPziRl0/video.html
Kick Double Pole: czcams.com/video/a7itYppe8xk/video.html
Grip: czcams.com/video/I8iGqr9ZZN0/video.html
Filmed at Lolo Pass on the Montana/Idaho border
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Basic Classic Ski Techniques: Striding
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The Missoula Nordic Ski Club demonstrates a basic technique of classic skiing: Striding (or 'diagonal stride') - it's like a low gear for starting, easy skiing, and uphills More technique videos Overview of All Four Techniques: czcams.com/video/4aQVNyY52Pc/video.html Striding: czcams.com/video/6NST1N6-P28/video.html Herringbone: czcams.com/video/JdvUibe750k/video.html Double Pole: czcams.com/vi...
Basic Classic Ski Techniques: Hills & Herringbone
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The Missoula Nordic Ski Club demonstrates a basic technique of classic skiing: Herringbone - the lowest gear for going up steep hills, or easy and relaxed hill climbing. More technique videos Overview of All Four Techniques: czcams.com/video/4aQVNyY52Pc/video.html Striding: czcams.com/video/6NST1N6-P28/video.html Herringbone: czcams.com/video/JdvUibe750k/video.html Double Pole: czcams.com/video...
Basic Classic Ski Techniques: Double Pole
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The Missoula Nordic Ski Club demonstrates a basic technique of classic skiing: Double Pole - it's like a high gear for high speeds on flats, downhills and gradual uphills More technique videos Overview of All Four Techniques: czcams.com/video/4aQVNyY52Pc/video.html Striding: czcams.com/video/6NST1N6-P28/video.html Herringbone: czcams.com/video/JdvUibe750k/video.html Double Pole: czcams.com/vide...
Basic Classic Ski Techniques: Kick Double Pole
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The Missoula Nordic Ski Club demonstrates a basic technique of classic skiing: Kick Double Pole - a medium gear for accelerating, flats and gradual uphills More technique videos Overview of All Four Techniques: czcams.com/video/4aQVNyY52Pc/video.html Striding: czcams.com/video/6NST1N6-P28/video.html Herringbone: czcams.com/video/JdvUibe750k/video.html Double Pole: czcams.com/video/BBa2fPziRl0/v...
Basic Classic Ski Gear: Grip/Kick
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The Missoula Nordic Ski Club provides a brief overview of grip/kickwax, skins, fishscales, "waxless" skis, etc. More technique videos Overview of All Four Techniques: czcams.com/video/4aQVNyY52Pc/video.html Striding: czcams.com/video/6NST1N6-P28/video.html Herringbone: czcams.com/video/JdvUibe750k/video.html Double Pole: czcams.com/video/BBa2fPziRl0/video.html Kick Double Pole: czcams.com/video...
Three Basic Skate Ski Techniques Explained
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The Missoula Nordic Ski Club demonstrates the three basic techniques of skate skiing: V1 (or "offset" skating) - it's like first gear/a low gear for starting or going uphill V2 Alternate (aka "open field") - it's like a high gear for high speeds on flats and downhills and V2 - a medium gear for accelerating, flats and gradual uphills. More technique videos Overview of All Three Techniques: czca...
Basic Skate Ski Technique: V2
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The Missoula Nordic Ski Club demonstrates one of the three basic techniques of skate skiing: V2 - a medium gear for accelerating, flats and gradual uphills. More technique videos Overview of All Three Techniques: czcams.com/video/_KxUZkVcqpk/video.html V1: czcams.com/video/r8a7d8IqGmY/video.html V2 Alternate: czcams.com/video/ZN80KIlgBpY/video.html V2: czcams.com/video/m0q6iByWDuQ/video.html Fi...
Basic Skate Ski Technique: V2 Alternate/Open Field
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The Missoula Nordic Ski Club demonstrates one of the three basic techniques of skate skiing: V2 Alternate (aka "open field") - it's like a high gear for high speeds on flats and downhills. More technique videos Overview of All Three Techniques: czcams.com/video/_KxUZkVcqpk/video.html V1: czcams.com/video/r8a7d8IqGmY/video.html V2 Alternate: czcams.com/video/ZN80KIlgBpY/video.html V2: czcams.com...
Basic Skate Ski Technique: V1/Offset
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The Missoula Nordic Ski Club demonstrates the three basic techniques of skate skiing: V1 (or "offset" skating) - it's like first gear/a low gear for starting or going uphill. More technique videos Overview of All Three Techniques: czcams.com/video/_KxUZkVcqpk/video.html V1: czcams.com/video/r8a7d8IqGmY/video.html V2 Alternate: czcams.com/video/ZN80KIlgBpY/video.html V2: czcams.com/video/m0q6iBy...
Nordic Skiing in Missoula - Winter 2020 Update
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A quick update about nordic skiing in the Missoula area this year.
Beautiful scenery. I'd like to hear how one avoids the 'slap' of the ski behind you in classic stride, which I hear is the sign of bad technique.
Where is the two-step double-poling ? czcams.com/video/52tTX1_-cYY/video.htmlsi=Ewc0sXfGL5aH7Idb czcams.com/video/wFWrPh68KBw/video.htmlsi=ioxYDKtqPkcbpJEe
If you put most of your weight on your heel...you will glide longer
Where is the two-step double-poling ? czcams.com/video/52tTX1_-cYY/video.htmlsi=Ewc0sXfGL5aH7Idb czcams.com/video/wFWrPh68KBw/video.htmlsi=ioxYDKtqPkcbpJEe
Is this the same speaker as in minute physics??
Exactly the advice I was looking for, got pretty wore out yesterday with my poor technique on a long uphill! thanks for the help.
Was not expecting the voice of @minutephysics to pop up here!
haha, for real, that confused the hell out of my brain for a second
Remember that the right wax and skis for the right conditions are just as important as the technique itself, as an inefficient pair of skis make executing the technique difficult. Your poles need to be the right hight as well ;-)
The skier's stride needs to be shortened to allow for a complete weight transfer commitment. This will eliminate the slapping noise you can hear resulting from her glide ski slapping behind the set ski. A committed drive of the glide ski will result in carrying more momentum forward. Sorry to be a pain, but I went through the same instructions from the Norwegian national team coach.
Thank you, this really helped!
They all look the same to me. I'm an alpine skier and an ice skater
So, v2 is basically v1 but polling each and every step?
You made it sound like there was another technique to be more efficient on these terrains. Is there? I’ve been crosscountry skiing for over 30 years now lol if there’s another way please let me know! She looked like she had a really good pace going, and I’m still working on my technique to this day. Getting faster in my older age haha
Are you really supposed to lift your back ski like that in a stride? I thought you glide on both?
No, you are definently meant to lift the back of the ski. It's a natural consquence of correct balance and weight transfer. I advice you to look at any professional performing tha classic technique
@@sebatr0509 thanks. It just looks goofy, as a new Nordic skier. the back ski lift comes naturally from having your weight far enough forward on the other foot?
@@llewodcm20 yes! Its almost impossible not to lift the back of the skies when diagonal striding. Look at Iivo Niskanen, one of the best in the world at diagonal stride, he lifts the back of the skies very high!
Nice clear and concise instruction!
Thanks. These were helpful instructions.
Great video keep ist up
Outstanding intro vid.
Thanks for being the only simplified vid I could find lol.
Almost 1 minute long 😉
The skier's timing is way off. Her V2 and V2A need a lot more core activation and knee bend. Her arms are too outstretched while poling and need to come in so that her forearms sit closer to 90-degrees from the ground.
When it comes to the 3 gears used in skate skiing this is the best video I could find. No other video out there covers all three so well in such a short little compact video you can view on your phone right on the trails (not that I needed to do that lol).
Why does he sound exactly like the minute physics guy
This is so funny, I saw it was from a Missoula group but all the while thinking “hey I know these trails, these are home not MT!” So confused until the end 😂
Great instructional video - thanks!
omg. Is this this voice of MinutePhysics?? So distracting. 😅Thanks for the great video
wow ❗️
gotta say, canadian nordic ski terminology is better that american, since you can understand what is meant by it right away.
Excellent video. I didn't know what I was doing ie v1, v2 or v2 alternate. By this video I'm doing v2. I need to learn the other two. I'm stuck in 2nd gear and that may in part explain my exhaustion. So 1st gear is V1, 2nd gear is V2 and 3rd gear is V2 alt. This is exactly what I needed to know. Be trying this out tomorrow. Can't wait. What a fantastic workout skate skiing is. Thanks again for posting this.
" I'm stuck in 2nd gear " Now I have that "Friends" theme song stuck in my head.
V1 (1 push - 2 steps) is unbalanced as you train one side of your body more than the other. I find V2 (1 push - 1 step) really physically demanding, and cant keep it up for more than 5km without rest. My "high gear" is 1 push + 3 steps. My "low gear" for going uphill is like V2 but the push is with 1 stick not 2 sticks. So step 1 - left stick right leg, step 2 - right stick left leg. It's very comfortable for going uphill, I dont know why I never seen anyone else do it that way. Maybe they just have more professional skis that slide better and can use the full V2 without getting exhausted.
On V2 it seem's that the poles are to short haha :) but great video!.
I cannot understand the difference between V1 and V2 alternate after watching this over and over
V2 = one kick for every stroke. V1 = two kick for every stroke. Here in Norway we call it doble dance (V2) and single dance (V1). When you go uphill we call it padling, but it`s actually V1 but very slow, and that`s a litle strange because V1 is the fastes Technic.
@@urlocaldogeater so they really are the same
@@JohnAdams-dj1xi Yes when it comes to kick an strokes, but it a different feel to it because you go very slow and very fast.
V1 needs the poles set asymmetrically due to wider ski angle at low speed. V2A can have poles set more evenly, also poles may hit later due to more glide.
2:45 Definitely need to put more core into it! All arms.
Greetings from Russia :-) Your video is very good! A little notice. In V2: 1) Do not unbend you arms. You have to keep arms bent AND STATIC until they reach your hips. You have to push with your torso/belly muscles. Girls doesn't push at all with her torso, and uses arms all the time. 2) Plant your poles and push them JUST a bit BEFORE you push with your foot. Girl does that almost at the same time. Timing is crucial here... I hope that will be valuable. Thx for great video.
Very nice video on the three middle gears. Beautiful landscape up there in Montana. Also, as a European it is interesting that in the US the pole use in V1 is still taught asymmetrical, and you will be able to see that all the way up to Jessie Diggins. The European recommendations have changed about 15 years ago, pole use in V1 is almost symmetrical now.
Is this minute physics guy’s voice?
I love that Montanans have to come to Washington for great location! Glad to see you had your trail pass.
Methow Valley
I use V1 but every 4th kick is change phase to chage to other side so the strain gets balanced for both sides of body. So rythm is: 3 left - 1 change - 3 right - 1 change. V2 is too demanding for 20kg overweight (for me) if skis are not top notch and track is hard and bumpy. I have one pair of extremely stiff skis which helps a lot for for bumpyness but still is left the question of balance point being too front for V2 due big tummy associated with metabolic syndrome. Tip: if you have gained weight like I have (95kg) and are at the start phase of skate skiing season skating feeling still overwhelmingly hard, it is possible let legs rest by means of double poling for minute or so periodically or after uphill. Just take it as slow as you can and do not think other people. After all skiing is best time of your life. Especially prolonged (over 60 minutes) slow paced skate skiing has tandency to release natural endorphins and endocannabinoids making you feel so good for a while.
Is that in steamboat co
no, I believe it is in WA. see the end!
great video thx
beautiful trails and techniques. hello from Stake Lake in Kamloops
In the V2 section the skier appears to plant just before stepping to the next ski contrary to the narration. Is the V2 in the video correct form ?
You step after planting the poles.
@ Thanks, that makes more sense.
@@ben2e men's 15km world championship race starts in 10minutes. There you will see the proper technique :D
Not really much explaining going on here...
Where was this video taken?
Methow Valley, Washington (1:53).
I didn't quite catch the difference between those two types of skiing but it is really easy to watch this video, the place is really picturesque, and the skiers easily controll their bodies and going without big effort👍
V2 alternate is two skates per pole push (pole, R ski, L ski). V1 is pole and skate at same time with 3 point snow contact (è.g. 2 Poles and R ski, then L ski).
@@rc5814 thanks
Good piece, but I don't agree that poles and ski hit the ground at "exactly the same time." Many skiers have the poles hit the ground a fraction of a second before the skis. This video is a close examination of that: czcams.com/video/zbN4cMBojsc/video.html The difference is tiny, but it's there. For teaching, thinking the landing is the same time is good, even thought it's not really true.
I guess you're able to lengthen the period in which strength is applied by polling a bit earlier? Interesting
Such a great video. Funny I learned first V2 alternate, then V1 ...now having a hard time learning v2 :D
Same. For me, in V2, the polling feels rushed
Note that this was NOT filmed in Montana. Just FYI. But we don’t want any more people where it was filmed don’t ask where.
Hahahah
Good way to grow your sport.
A beautiful place to train. Thank you for the lesson.
Thank you for creating the videos! Hope to see more :) just got skate skis and this video has helped a lot!!
Ok the cinematography in this video is fantastic. Did not expect that.