They banned growing it ENTIRELY, even for COMMERCIAL production. We had a growing region here in Victoria. They were selling a lot on the black market and after 2 years, essentially out of spite they just decided to close the whole industry and set up retraining programs. And now it's 100% imported and the stuff you get under the table is chinese cigarettes with GOD knows what in them.
you know when you harvest, befor hanging to drie, use something like a hamer or annything to smash/break the stalk running up the leaf then you get sweeter tobacco becouse the sugars dont get pulled back in the stalk and if you do it fine enough you can even grind the stalks seprate, and you'll see why when you do 😉 gr from holland.
Hi, ik zie dat je uit Holland komt, voor mij wat makkelijker communiceren 😉 ben me sinds kort aan het verdiepen hierin. Wat houd nu dat fermenteren in, hoe doe je dat en waarom is dat nodig? Weet jij dat? Ik lees ook over oventjes enz, maar dat lijkt me met de huidige energieprijzen een nogal dure aangelegenheid.
@@Sjak50 jazeker fermenteren is eigenlijks gocontroleerd rotten zonder de schimmel, denk maar aan bier en wijn etc,. en het heeft voor zin dat de chlorifofiel en de zuren tijd krijgen om af te breken dus de smaak word naar mijn mening hartiget, end de nicotinne, enz, word iets afgebroken tot een zout wat beter opgeneomen word in de rest stof die je rookt. mischien handiger om eens te spreken, ik kweek al jaren tabak, vanaf opa op vader, dus er is wel veel meer wat ik je zou kunnen vertellen maar dat zou je moetten proevem, meemaken, en zien😁, groet, martijn been
good on ya,u sound aust,australia charge's $35 to $50 for a packet of smokes,.a 25gram tobacco pouch cost $60 to $90 depending on which brand of tobacco.
Nope - he's a Kiwi. Different accent to Australia. And over here in NZ (2024), it now costs approx $80.00 per 30g pouch, to $140.00 per 50g depending on brand. This video is 4 years old.
I’ve grown other medication but I decided to try three types of tobacco for smoking this coming summer. Hopefully it’ll turn out as well as my other meds!
I tried making cigars and got nicotine poisoning. Would suggest the firsr pickings but rinse well with boiling water after curing then dry. Maybe leave for a year or 2 to mellow.
I grew my first tobacco last year here in Finland, did a big mistake by putting 3-4 together on the curingrack and this caused 80% of my harvest to mould, i couldn't save enything from it. But i hadd some 20% left that i got to smoke, those i hadd threaded one by one on a thick metal wire, they where really aromatic and tasty. I noticed the stems are very high in moisture, helps alot to cut the stem in the middle when drying, i saved the stems aswell and made tobacco flour witch i used to make my own Swedish Snus. The stems has a high consentrate of nicotine and when they dry they smell stronger then the leaf itself. Get alot of weight from them aswell so i would recommend not to throw the stems away, i put them in a blender and make flour of it.
When leaves are mature green or yellow then pick and cure in blankets until all yellow and smelling good. Hang to dry then store or grind. Use a cabbage leaf in a storage container to soften for grinding. Experiment lots - good luck.
Cześć, jeśli chodzi o rodzj maszynki tego rodzaju (walki) to ja mam coś lepszego za 1700 $ i jeśli po każdym cięciu jej nie umyje w ciepłej wodzie i potem jej nie przedmucham kompresorem 10 bar to jej nazajutrz nie uruchomię, zawsze trzeba ją czyścić i dmuchać w dodatku one nie są do tytoniu z łodyga. Pozdrawiam Nowa Zelandie
Kia ora Rob. I’ve read around where a lot of guys are “fermenting” in temp/humidity controlled environments with makeshift boxes (rice cookers and slow cookers etc on a thermostat). Do you skip this process? There’s a lot of conflicting info out there about the process AFTER air drying. Some “ferment” and some don’t. What’s your take? Cheers from Rotorua.
Lol. Thats why I made the vlog. I to was confused about all the different styles. When I stated out my rules were "cheap and fast" and thats what I ended up with. If your tobacco is smokable, tsstes good and isn't mouldy then its a win. This method works but feel free to try others.
@@robmurphy5548 Makes sense. My only concern is ensuring enough time for ammonia to dissapear. 2 weeks under the towels (with daily wiping) has been sufficient for you?
Thanks sir it's my 3rd yr of growing but my first yr of topping curing and consuming I've been picking the leaves when they are yellow but I see they use green leaves in some videos I've seen !!??!!??
Like your video, some good basic info. Just starting to learn about. The American way would be cut the crank off and build a simple mount for a drill. Just saying.
For NZ plant in September, harvest in February or when ready to pick . Then 2 weeks to cure and 2 weeks to dry. So about 5 - 6 months from seed to smoke.
I’m just getting ready to stick my plants outside in early May (U.K.). I’m excited to try your process. I might also try a slightly more aged version as someone below suggested putting them in a zip lock bag with slight moisture, opening/closing for a week or so. Cheers for the no bullshit. Tobacco videos online piss me off with all this curing fermenting drying order crap. Confusing just to make it confusing
Cześć co kraj to ina historia w Polsce jest problem o podłożu fermentacji i wyrwaniu centralnej łodygi bo jeśli nie zrobisz tego maszynowo (pneumatyczne) to ręcznie się nie opłaci a tytoń najbardziej splesnieje od tej łodygi. Znam trochę temat i widziałem już kilka ton splesnialego tytoniu.
Tried this last summer and went through the same process but without the "curing". The texture, burn and inhalation was great. The problem I had was A) it smelt like burning leaves and nothing like tobacco and B) did not have the aroma and taste of the Drum (or equivalent) tobacco I so desperately want to match. Would this be sorted by "curing" with a bowel of rum instead of cabbage and should I do this after the leaves are fully dried (as to absorb the taste and smell of the rum)?
you have to cure the tobacco to smoke it, or it tastes like you are smoking a leaf. You can't skip curing 😅 also if you want to make it next level and get that sweet taste/smell you need to ferment it too, or you just aren't going to get it.
Very nice, sir! Here in Brazil we remove the stem before curing, so the “green” from the leaves disapear faster. As soon the leaves are picked, we let them wither for about a day or two (depending on the temperature), then remove the central stem and then let them dry/cure.
glad i found this channel , where do you get the seeds from? i live in totaltarian NZ (just passed new laws where people born 2003 onwards cant buy tobacco products EVER) it's a joke and i want to grow my own $32.50 a pack of 20 taylermades here now
If someone could answer a question I have that'd be great! I dried my first tobacco leaves. I left them fermenting quite a while on the floor stacked on to of each other and then dried them by hanging them in little bunches. The leaves have a good color but smell a little strange (fermented, kinda earthy smell). I am worried i left them too long before drying. Is there a danger of smoking poorly dried tobaco leaves or leaves ? I've smoked a bit, it's alright but pretty strong on the throat. I have no way of comparing so any advise would be amazing ! Would be disappointed if I have waisted them all... Thanks !!
Im at the stage where i have dried the leaves and they are the same as yours. Im taking the stalks out now, My question is do i need to leave them to age or are ready to smoke now?
If you have a lot then they can be stored in sacks and will mellow with time. If they a crispy dry put a bunch in a big plastic container with a cabbage leaf overnight. They need to be leathery when you shred them. If to wet leave in the sun for 10 - 20 minutes.
How do you keep bugs from eating your plants?
Can you smoke it even if its not fermented? Heard it was dangerous with out fermenting
@@deadbabyjokes5319 not a good idea . Needs to be cured first.
baz from nz where did u get yr tobacco shredder from
Great video thanks. Is it a pasta grinder you use and what type is it please?
Excellent video. Can you tell me the emp and humidity that our curing area was.
Where can I get seeds from im in the USA
@@saint85 www.plantgoodseed.com/collections/organic-tobacco-seeds-rare-non-gmo-certified-organic-heirloom-varieties
what kind of grinder are you using? where can I get one?
Could you use a tobacco leaf for home rolled cigarettes?
Yes of course.
What do you use to shred your baccy,and where to get one. Thank you.
www.wickedhabits.nz/product/tobacco-cutter-magic-cut-hand-machine-ts023
Thank you,very much.
I used to grow my own 20 years ago in Charters Towers. I wonder what the laws are growing your own in Queensland Australia now. Great video.
They banned growing it ENTIRELY, even for COMMERCIAL production. We had a growing region here in Victoria. They were selling a lot on the black market and after 2 years, essentially out of spite they just decided to close the whole industry and set up retraining programs. And now it's 100% imported and the stuff you get under the table is chinese cigarettes with GOD knows what in them.
Kiwi ?
Two seasons in a row I killed approximately 60 to 70 lbs of leaves the dried green I wasn’t able to get them to cure I give up
The cat sleeping there might even help with the temp
Looks a decent Bakky
Is this for cigarettes?
Yes.
Where do you get the cutter from?
www.gentlemenscorner.co.nz/tobacco_cutting_machines.html
This is one of the most straightforward how-to vids I’ve seen on tobacco. Loving the tunes! Fat Freddy’s Drop?
paradise.If I did it in Japan, I would be arrested. Sad to say.
thanks for the video. Also in NZ and thinking about growing for pipe smoking.
Also in NZ. I've heard you can buy the leaves somewhere here in NZ at the side of the road (not against the law). I'm still trying to find out where.
I got my seed from a pk of cig that fell in a bucket of water so i throw in the garden i was amazed how big the leaves are
Looks good man 👍 ive just planted my seeds yesterday cant wait to smoke home-grown tobacco
Its a process and a hobby.
you know when you harvest, befor hanging to drie, use something like a hamer or annything to smash/break the stalk running up the leaf then you get sweeter tobacco becouse the sugars dont get pulled back in the stalk and if you do it fine enough you can even grind the stalks seprate, and you'll see why when you do 😉 gr from holland.
Hi, ik zie dat je uit Holland komt, voor mij wat makkelijker communiceren 😉 ben me sinds kort aan het verdiepen hierin. Wat houd nu dat fermenteren in, hoe doe je dat en waarom is dat nodig? Weet jij dat? Ik lees ook over oventjes enz, maar dat lijkt me met de huidige energieprijzen een nogal dure aangelegenheid.
@@Sjak50 jazeker fermenteren is eigenlijks gocontroleerd rotten zonder de schimmel, denk maar aan bier en wijn etc,. en het heeft voor zin dat de chlorifofiel en de zuren tijd krijgen om af te breken dus de smaak word naar mijn mening hartiget, end de nicotinne, enz, word iets afgebroken tot een zout wat beter opgeneomen word in de rest stof die je rookt. mischien handiger om eens te spreken, ik kweek al jaren tabak, vanaf opa op vader, dus er is wel veel meer wat ik je zou kunnen vertellen maar dat zou je moetten proevem, meemaken, en zien😁, groet, martijn been
Awesome.
I have tried Mohawk, Aztec and Virginia gold. First I got a few sprouts... and then boom I find new sprouts everywhere.
good on ya,u sound aust,australia charge's $35 to $50 for a packet of smokes,.a 25gram tobacco pouch cost $60 to $90 depending on which brand of tobacco.
Nope - he's a Kiwi. Different accent to Australia. And over here in NZ (2024), it now costs approx $80.00 per 30g pouch, to $140.00 per 50g depending on brand. This video is 4 years old.
I’ve grown other medication but I decided to try three types of tobacco for smoking this coming summer. Hopefully it’ll turn out as well as my other meds!
Maybe it's a stupid question but what process or how do you determine what can be smoked and what can be used as a wrapper for your own cigars?
I tried making cigars and got nicotine poisoning. Would suggest the firsr pickings but rinse well with boiling water after curing then dry. Maybe leave for a year or 2 to mellow.
@@robmurphy5548 Oh boy!! Thanks for the reply
I grew my first tobacco last year here in Finland, did a big mistake by putting 3-4 together on the curingrack and this caused 80% of my harvest to mould, i couldn't save enything from it. But i hadd some 20% left that i got to smoke, those i hadd threaded one by one on a thick metal wire, they where really aromatic and tasty. I noticed the stems are very high in moisture, helps alot to cut the stem in the middle when drying, i saved the stems aswell and made tobacco flour witch i used to make my own Swedish Snus. The stems has a high consentrate of nicotine and when they dry they smell stronger then the leaf itself. Get alot of weight from them aswell so i would recommend not to throw the stems away, i put them in a blender and make flour of it.
So plant seeds grow plants when leaves yellow pull off hang to brown up remove stem then shred is it not dry tho most commercial is moist
When leaves are mature green or yellow then pick and cure in blankets until all yellow and smelling good. Hang to dry then store or grind. Use a cabbage leaf in a storage container to soften for grinding. Experiment lots - good luck.
@robmurphy5548 do they not taste of cabbage tho 😆
Haha, no
Great video. I do exactly the same over here in zone 6B Quebec. No hassle method, low cost and efficient.
Thanks can you buy those shredders here in NZ or did you make it ?
It broke not long after that and I got this one which can handle volume and bigger leaf. www.wickedhabits.nz/product/tobacco-cutter-rs100-plus-ts021
Thanks again !
Cześć, jeśli chodzi o rodzj maszynki tego rodzaju (walki) to ja mam coś lepszego za 1700 $ i jeśli po każdym cięciu jej nie umyje w ciepłej wodzie i potem jej nie przedmucham kompresorem 10 bar to jej nazajutrz nie uruchomię, zawsze trzeba ją czyścić i dmuchać w dodatku one nie są do tytoniu z łodyga. Pozdrawiam Nowa Zelandie
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Nice video!
Kia ora Rob. I’ve read around where a lot of guys are “fermenting” in temp/humidity controlled environments with makeshift boxes (rice cookers and slow cookers etc on a thermostat). Do you skip this process? There’s a lot of conflicting info out there about the process AFTER air drying. Some “ferment” and some don’t. What’s your take? Cheers from Rotorua.
Lol. Thats why I made the vlog. I to was confused about all the different styles. When I stated out my rules were "cheap and fast" and thats what I ended up with. If your tobacco is smokable, tsstes good and isn't mouldy then its a win. This method works but feel free to try others.
@@robmurphy5548 Makes sense. My only concern is ensuring enough time for ammonia to dissapear. 2 weeks under the towels (with daily wiping) has been sufficient for you?
Definitely. Its been the cheapest way for home size growing. Pure tobacco taste . No chemicals added either.
Thanks sir it's my 3rd yr of growing but my first yr of topping curing and consuming I've been picking the leaves when they are yellow but I see they use green leaves in some videos I've seen !!??!!??
Like your video, some good basic info. Just starting to learn about. The American way would be cut the crank off and build a simple mount for a drill. Just saying.
@robmurphy5548 IS THAT A PENCIL SHARPENER TURNED ON ITS SIDE
Hi can you please tell me how long the whole process takes. Regards Martin
For NZ plant in September, harvest in February or when ready to pick . Then 2 weeks to cure and 2 weeks to dry. So about 5 - 6 months from seed to smoke.
@@robmurphy5548 Hi Rob and thank you for your reply. I noticed that you ferment first then (colour cure) dry second. How does it smoke. Regards Martin
@@martinsteele5171 for me i find the natural tobacco flavour perfect. No chemicals or additives needed.
@@robmurphy5548 Hi Rob what's the yeald like in grms per plant. Regards Martin
I measured the yield at 50g of cured leaf per 6ft high plant.
I’m just getting ready to stick my plants outside in early May (U.K.). I’m excited to try your process. I might also try a slightly more aged version as someone below suggested putting them in a zip lock bag with slight moisture, opening/closing for a week or so. Cheers for the no bullshit. Tobacco videos online piss me off with all this curing fermenting drying order crap. Confusing just to make it confusing
Best of luck.
Those videos make you mad, why?
Cześć co kraj to ina historia w Polsce jest problem o podłożu fermentacji i wyrwaniu centralnej łodygi bo jeśli nie zrobisz tego maszynowo (pneumatyczne) to ręcznie się nie opłaci a tytoń najbardziej splesnieje od tej łodygi. Znam trochę temat i widziałem już kilka ton splesnialego tytoniu.
allo, good job ! Tell me if my understanding is ok ? With about 2 plant you made 100gr of tobacco ? I must me wrong no, yes ?
Hi. Yes average about 50g cured per plant.
@@robmurphy5548 merci ! thank you
Tried this last summer and went through the same process but without the "curing". The texture, burn and inhalation was great. The problem I had was A) it smelt like burning leaves and nothing like tobacco and B) did not have the aroma and taste of the Drum (or equivalent) tobacco I so desperately want to match. Would this be sorted by "curing" with a bowel of rum instead of cabbage and should I do this after the leaves are fully dried (as to absorb the taste and smell of the rum)?
It seems your curing process went wrong, there is actually another stage that this guy did not do during the curing process
you have to cure the tobacco to smoke it, or it tastes like you are smoking a leaf. You can't skip curing 😅 also if you want to make it next level and get that sweet taste/smell you need to ferment it too, or you just aren't going to get it.
GET TO THE FUCKIN POINT
Very nice, sir! Here in Brazil we remove the stem before curing, so the “green” from the leaves disapear faster. As soon the leaves are picked, we let them wither for about a day or two (depending on the temperature), then remove the central stem and then let them dry/cure.
Good tip.
glad i found this channel , where do you get the seeds from? i live in totaltarian NZ (just passed new laws where people born 2003 onwards cant buy tobacco products EVER) it's a joke and i want to grow my own $32.50 a pack of 20 taylermades here now
You can buy them online . Im in NZ too. Planting season is September so you have plenty of time to set up.
@@robmurphy5548 GUMTREE 5-10 BUCKS
Yeah i bought a pack of a thousand seeds off TradeMe for $6
What grinder is that and if you could please tell me where you got it from?
Spaghetti noodle making machine will do the same process
where can we get plants price in sweden are crasy
If someone could answer a question I have that'd be great! I dried my first tobacco leaves. I left them fermenting quite a while on the floor stacked on to of each other and then dried them by hanging them in little bunches. The leaves have a good color but smell a little strange (fermented, kinda earthy smell). I am worried i left them too long before drying. Is there a danger of smoking poorly dried tobaco leaves or leaves ? I've smoked a bit, it's alright but pretty strong on the throat. I have no way of comparing so any advise would be amazing ! Would be disappointed if I have waisted them all... Thanks !!
If you cure/ ferment it longer does it get much smoother and if so, at what rate?
Show all 100 leafs, we have time to waste
Im at the stage where i have dried the leaves and they are the same as yours. Im taking the stalks out now, My question is do i need to leave them to age or are ready to smoke now?
If you have a lot then they can be stored in sacks and will mellow with time. If they a crispy dry put a bunch in a big plastic container with a cabbage leaf overnight. They need to be leathery when you shred them. If to wet leave in the sun for 10 - 20 minutes.