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that's the thing about being an architect we like to make others experience things beautifully than us. we can still experience public spaces though, for architects who work on different projects

Irony of the architecture profession!

Great podcast! I'm an "architectural designer", with no certification, and I'd like to say to all the other AD's that are all butthurt over this, listen to more than the first 10 min before getting offended. The overall point is spot on, and the underlying point of good vs bad design is on point as well. I've seen very very bad AD plans, and I've also had many architects plans that are very bad that builders have paid me to fix so it's actually buildable in the real world. It all comes down to how good the individual designer is (ASK QUESTIONS BEFORE HIRING!!!) and also pay for what you want. Architects do what they are paid for, and so do AD's. A big problem is clients see those HIGH end houses you mentioned on instagram or pinterest and don't look at the credits given to all involved to make that happen, which are ALWAYS architects, interior designers, landscape designers, and high end custom builders. Clients need to ask a lot of questions to know what they are getting for their money. When I meet people that want a high level of detail and designer involvement in the whole design/construction process, I will tell them to hire an architect, not me! Fan of the show, keep up the good work!

Intentionally casual.

makes me want to begin my career again :) Rich

I’m sorry, but as long as the people know what they’re doing I don’t care. There are plenty of architects that are worse than architectural designers. The way our universities are set up to gatekeep is atrocious. They don’t focus on teaching students what is important, just theory and politics. There is nothing the schools offer that you can’t learn on your own. The only reason to go is because they’ve made a master’s in architecture a requirement for licensure. All while not teaching you anything that justifies why it is a requirement for licensure

So true. I asked once and they said yes, we have an architectural designer. I wondered if they were architects or draftsmen, but they said they had an architectural technician. Not the same as an Architect! Ended up going elsewhere.

I just want to clarify that Architectural Designers or Graduates Architects is a person who has accredited professional Architecture degrees, B.Arch or M.Arch degree. I have 20 years of experience but have not sat for the licensing examinations, which are more focused on regulations, safety, contracts, etc. You got all these through practice. I know a lot of GA or AD who have practised in architecture firms and developers for years, including myself. What the design and build companies have is a draftsman who might have taken some short introduction course like 6 months or a year max., works at design firms for drafting assistance and then maybe a contractor as they pay better. The contractor's earning margin is much, much higher.

Nursing a grudge here? As an independent architectural designer I spend most of my career fixing mistakes made by actual licensed architects but I’m not out here making videos about how terrible they are and how they should know better since they’re licensed. If you’re gonna throw shade maybe quit generalizing.

Design and build , seriously its making design / architect / profession cheap / because you waive the design fee , they think design skill is easy and every one think you scamming them / the quality is rarely good / unless you are one big company who already have solid foundation professionally on , Design , PM , Great workshop + carpenter , Mep , Supply Chains and you can validly proof your quality . ( trusted & quality ) thats the most important , there's some successful company , like in south East asia that is quite global now ( MMOSER ) who is successfully implementing this , top - down , but they arent cheap , and again you cant have cheap , super fast , with 1 million buck design look , it took process , human resource , capital , know how ! experience , building brands ( if youre looking a world class design )

Love that someone has talked about this. There is a ton you mentioned that is very true but also a lot that was very false. Probably due to you both being "luxury" architects it was a pretty short sighted conversation. The industry is a spectrum between architects, designers, and contractors. Clients just need to hone in on exactly how they want to bring down cost on their end. In a world where there is a nauseating high majority of people that have financial struggles, there are companies that will give you the ability to feel like your home could be in a design/architectural magazine. (Even though it won't) Everyone should have access to feeling special like that, not just the rich. In addition, for anyone out there who isn't in the field or understands what I meant by the industry is a spectrum, here is a general breakdown. Architect: They know all the details but they will drive cost up because they don't know how to get their head out of the weeds. They are also way more expensive in terms of hourly hence why the spiraling is problematic. The main thing is, you are paying for the drafted document (the STAMP) and that everything will be built exactly as it is reviewed which is wonderful if you can afford it. Contractor: They WILL get it done (at least the professional ones), but there is a high chance that those details you really wanted... are not going to happen and you won't feel heard as a client. Lastly the forgotten Environmental/Interior Designer: NOT THE ARCHITECT!!! There are people who specifically are focused on the aesthetics, experience, and strategy and do it routinely enough that they are extremely efficient in terms of speed. They can create a/your VISION way quicker than anyone else. Downside, they don't know mechanical, structural, or electrical. (But they understand the fundamentals/rules and remember the tricks on how to eliminate them as eye soars. They know how each is implemented just don't know the equipment and specifications). In sum.... Designers will create your vision.....Architects will make it buildable.....Contractor will build it. Overall do research on what you are looking for and ask around to see who does stuff wrong. It is a VERY VERY VERY small industry and everyone knows everyone.

Great conversation!

You have design build all figured out wrong. Design Build isn't about identifying who is the authority over the other and whether a GC has a licensed architect or designer. The gist of DB is to facilitate collaboration over competition. It eliminates change orders that drain clients pockets through collaboration. Architects are known for over designing projects that are out of client's budget. Clients then receive a surprise on estimates. Moreover, yes some GC have drafters who are formally trained designers that provide floor plans and layout. However, to ger permitting and construction documents, most GC take those floorplans to Licensed architects to further develop them into airtight construction documents that would be permittable. i think this podcast is very valuable but misinformed about the process of design build. I'll still be watching

I guess it comes down to budget. Although I would love to afford an architect, I don't have that luxury. On the other hand, I wouldn't want to work with design-build either, because I'm too picky, and I know I would drive them nuts. We're building a house beig used as a cottage, and we've done all drawings ourselves, and drawings have been approved. My background is in kitchen and bath design, so I'm used to drawing and being able to visualice a floorplan in 3D without seeingit. Build is starting this fall by my husband who is neither a builder nor a carpenter. We have guidance from experienced and retired builders and consider ourselves really fortunate. Doing it ourselves allow us to focus on quality materials also.

Hello very interesting episode as always! I have a question. When you say the usual architectural fee is around 10-12 % or more of the construction cost, is that fee for the architectural part of the project alone or does it include structural engineering and MEP? And is that in US or Europe?

Exactly the topic I wanted to hear about, thank you for a great conversation.

Came across this from a colleague. New sub

FOR ALL THOSE with the SELLOUT talk……..On a BUSINESS BASIS I RESPECT his architectural style, SIMPLE but VERY ELEGANT and because of its STYLE AND SIMPLICITY it could be relevant in 200 years like a space capsule. I guess you could call it FUTURISTIC. Also JOE ENGLANOFF designs. BOTH COULD DEFINITELY paint this ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN MASTERPIECE IN MY HEAD. *It HAS TO BE PUT ON CANVAS because it’s DRIVING ME INSANE. It’s like THE ONE & LA FIN rolled up like a BURRITO 🌯

Lot of Metric-cel coping in the comments.

"Vernacular" "regional" architecture is "one half of a high/low dichotomy, an unequal opposition in which the high could appropriate from the low but not the other way around". A paradox in architecture, or the simply the reality?

that was a great analogy!

Real

37:30 don't underestimate contractors and drafters who care ❤

I really like when you guys do things like this! Ideas or thoughts, that relate directly to how, design and how design features can be used to influence those that use or see your works/designs! Maybe you could get some of your guests that you interview, to do the same as you did here! I kind of get sick of hearing them preach about 'band-wagon causes', that they may be using to justify their lack of creativity! I am not an engineer or an architect, so take that my statement with, 'a grain of salt'!

Yasss! Sensory design is much needed!

I have an Owners Rep firm in the DFW area and found this podcast super helpful ! Appreciate what you are doing on The Second Studio

The power of communication and knowing where all the local products and materials are AND having good rapor with skilled workers and suppliers is something I recently discovered when I moved to a smaller town. It’s worth it tho.

Or they keep recycling just to meet deadlines because not all Clients understand the time it takes to be creative in designing architecture

There are many talented who burnt out 💯

The design guidelines should only cover safety and not creativity/design.

When design does not fit reality, let's have a conversation 💯🔥

Misuse of historical design elements. I have seen concrete relief of shutters for facade design only 😂

I totally agree with this. I like automation for the ease of use but turning on or off a light takes only a few sec. If we automate everything, we would be the humans in Wall-E movie 😂 With security automation, since everything can be hacked now, or if there would be any power interruption, old school is still the best for me

This was fantastic, great insights all around. Love the idea of engaging micro teams in advance between the subs, especially when looking to do a minimalist, clean look.

My first year studio had 80 people to begin with and by the end of the first semester we were down to about 50. And my year was actually smaller than other cause in the past they usually started at around 100 people.

Really it was a brilliant play to get on Tucker Carleson. The way you packaged urbanism would be highly appealing to that side of the political spectrum. If the Republicans were smart, which they probably aren't, they would run with that message. Really any candidate.

La sagrada familia is such a wonderful design, you really have good taste 👍

Very very true, I am in it and an about to retire from the profession entirely at 34 years old. None, I mean Zero of my close school and early career friends are still in the profession. Invented the next revolution in pet safety and we are about to launch our company!

In my country, a bachelors in architecture takes 5 years, and the following are things I’ve only realized in my 5th year, and it’s what I tell younger students: - Simplify your project’s problem and solution. - Present everything in the same order as architecture websites and magazines. - Impress yourself first in order to impress others. - Justify everything by function (e.g., room function, intent of structure, research-based evidence, why the alternatives & other consideration to your proposal are less suitable than your proposed solution, etc.)

Which episode is this clip from?

Students are push to be the working force for architectural production in offices, that is producing CDs from someone else’s design.

This was helpful, thank you!

Very well said. Another skill is prioritizing constraints...

Yours too in this video, not doing good speech. Your sample very confusing too as you describe mere only verbally, should be visual description. Fails.

A big challenge with this is a middleware/platform that can bridge AI models and different manufactured products from other companies. Maybe matter can be a solution.

And also, was the foundation and first floor framing designed to hold the load of a second floor?

Any tool can be used incorrectly if not properly understood. Even pencil on paper...

Very interesting how he was educated and mentored by very well known and respected architects from around the world during his early life, (and still these teachers/practitioners influencing the industry today), but AZP explains his story as a very coincidental circumstance. The fact that he took a studio from Brown back in the 1990’s while at GSD and couldn’t respond to the discussion from the studio’s lecture at the time, to winning a very important global design competition, and now he’s in a position that contributes to the discussion (the same way as Brown and others did) to other students and professionals alike today is actually quite fascinating. He’s either very lucky or an extremely modest repressed architectural genius. I hope he comes back on the show to continue his story and share more advise to others.

One app to rules them all Home Assistant!!

The “eww” face 😂 But true, criticism is necessary.