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I haven’t gotten around to doing another video but it’s still worth the upgrade. I test rode the meta sx v5 and it was an identical ride so I still wouldn’t be able to bring myself to buying a whole new bike unless I really just wanted a new frame or color.

@@davidspidle1985 Thanks mate 🍻

I’d be concerned with pedal strikes still with the 160mm fork and it would be a slightly steeper head tube angle.

u need a 216 * 63 rear shock

A 230x62.5 still keeps the same length eye to eye as a 230x65. The travel length is changed with a bottom out spacer in the shocks. I would try doing the same rocker assembly with a 8.5x2.5 shock. It’s comes out so around a 215x63.5 then you could keep a 29” tire on the back.

@@davidspidle1985 so maybe a 216x63 with som offset bushings could work? could i then keep the TR linkage?

It’s possible but the shocks bolt diameter doesn’t leave a lot of room for offset bushings.

I messured it, bigger shock wont fit whitout changing the rocker. This means the bike can only be ridden with 140mm travel as a 29r. The solution of this video is best. One thing to consider is that if u just buy a sx, the upper rear stays are bridged together. The rear triangle will be stiffer on a sx, but 10mil longer.

Same Clevis. Different rocker.

@@davidspidle1985 nevermind i figured it out. the rocker link for the second half of 22 is the same as the SX. the rocker link for the first batch of 22's is different than the SX. Interesting. Do you have the bearing to bearing measurement of each?

@@handpanler not off hand right now but both use the same bearings. I was able to swap mine over from my old linkage.

Buenas!! Permite el montaje de 2022 sustituir el amortiguador por uno de mas carrera? Hay que modificar algo o solo sustituir el amortiguador?

I would think you could get this to work but I would look into ordering a slightly shorter eye to eye shock to make up the added height a 29 would give you.

I would assume so. Part numbers are different on the power models though so be sure to order the correct rocker assembly.

You would still need the sx rocker assembly as well and the fork upgrades.

@@davidspidle1985 as per commencal site the tr/sx rocker are the same, fork no issue

@@MrButters2234 Clevis is the same. Rocker is different. Sx rocker www.commencal-store.co.uk/PBSCProduct.asp?PGFLngID=1&ItmID=35537837 Tr rocker www.commencal-store.co.uk/PBSCProduct.asp?PGFLngID=1&ItmID=31745711

Thank you for the info! can you confirm about the clevis length? I'm thinking to do the same on my TR but at the momment this new clevis with flip chip isn't available, can i do this conversion to 230 rear shock + 27.5 rear wheel only with the SX rocker?

Thanks for the info. I was looking at their part numbers while gathering that info. I did notice some slight differences in geo with the 21 tr Clevis vs the sx Clevis I received as well. I think geo works out best when the sx Clevis and rocker are used together.

What you are looking at is the Meta SX and TR 29.3 clevis and rocker. These are the same. The 29.2 (2021 model) uses a slightly different rocker and clevis. If you have the current model TR29.3 (2022 onward) you don't need these parts.

@@steve_troy 29.2 and 29.3 TR use the same rocker. www.commencal-store.co.uk/PBSCProduct.asp?PGFLngID=1&ItmID=31745711 SX rocker is its own part number so this would still be needed in a conversion. www.commencal-store.co.uk/PBSCProduct.asp?PGFLngID=1&ItmID=35537837 Clevis is the same between sx and tr in the 2022 which is what I believe you’re seeing.

When you switch everything over with the sx linkage yes. You can fit a 230x65 shock.

@@davidspidle1985 is the part also needed for the Meta TR 2022? or only on the 2021 TR model www.commencal-store.co.uk/PBSCProduct.asp?PGFLngID=1&ItmID=35537837

@@davidspidle1985 after this conversion do you have a good clearance between the chainstays and the bottom bracket?

Yeah I ordered all the parts from the Europe site.

Okay thank you

@@davidspidle1985 do you recommend doing the conversion since you've been riding it now?

Yup. I ran mine like this for a while also and it was a fun set up.

You could try this same conversation and then instead of the shock I went with use a 8.5x2.5 shock. It is a bit shorter eye to eye length so that should be close to the same geo with a 29” wheel.

The shock is a 230x65 and the leverage ratio now as a best guess taking into account the linkage has been changed to the sx would be around a 2.56 average. Since I used the longer stroke than the 62.5 that they use on the sx I should be closer to a 166 travel in the rear. So I may actually bump the fork up to a 180mm in the future. This bike was my first purchase going from bmx to MTB so I went conservative with the tr but this travel range and the mullet set up fits my riding style best also.

Considering buying the WRP link for my AM as well. Cool to hear it's worthwhile

It’s a 63.7 head tube angle now.

Thanks I am too! It fits my riding style so much better now.

@@davidspidle1985 now the mountain is calling for ya go ahead and shred 🔥

I haven’t ridden the am. But there is another CZcamsr on here that compares a sx vs an am and he preferred the sx.

Fuckn hated my am. Seat tupe is super long and the depth is short

You could try a different shock with a shorter eye to eye. The 8.5x2.5 is about at 215x62.5 size so that could put the bike back into the right geo but i haven’t tried this set up. It would be close though.

Ahh okay, so I can’t get the exact same parts as you?

Its a 2022 meta by the way, would the rocker or linkage beed to be changed at all? Looking fir around 160mm

@@blackjdm93 No. If you have the flip chip you don't need the replacement parts as the SX uses the same part numbers.

@@steve_troy Cool I figured, im trying to figure out if i still need a different Rocker or not to fit the different shock

The two frames are different. There is slight differences in the head tube length and seat angle. I haven’t measured the reach as that’s adjustable with bars/stems. But it feels comfortable for my riding.

@@davidspidle1985 Will this affect the strength of the frame?Can more suspension curve measurements be made in the future?

@@user-me9tl6cj2g I can’t comment on the strength of frame I also would go any further travel in the rear if that’s what your asking.

Thanks I appreciate it! The tools is a work in progress. I donated my snap on set up to my brother when he finished A&P school so I’m slowly building this back out for hobby wrenching.

If you did the rocker assembly with the 27.5 wheel I think it would slacken out the head tube angle too much but for the AM I would try just getting the clevis with the flip chip and running that in the high setting with a 27.5 wheel and that should be pretty similar geo.

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Yup you got that right. You can definitely get by with the 21 clevis. It is just the low setting.

Hahaha we got busy with some home projects after I recorded it and it took some time to get back to edit it.