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Hahaha "i hope i didn't offend you". What a loser you are!

I use Heartbeat cymbals and have used in contemporary music as well as gospel style music. I use 20 inch Custom crash, 22 Studio crash, 15 inch custom hats, 10 inch studio splash, smack stack, and a 24 inch Custom Dry ride. I also have a 24 inch Custom ride that is heavier to allow me the option for using the bell of the ride more for that gospel style music. I even crash on it some.

I never understand the concept about "Worship Cymbals". I think it's just a marketing term as "Worship Cymbals" are just like any other cymbals I think that are out there. Personally, I'm still a fan of Zildjian Custom A cymbals because I think they are the most "musical" of cymbals. Bright, cutting through the mix without hanging around all day. Quick, fast, bright, musical.But I'm actually playing Sabian HHX and AAX cymbals with a Zildjian K dark dry ride. And gotta say Sabian does make nice cymbals. This is the first time to not play Zildjian custom A cymbals, and the Sabien cymbals sound pretty good too. I think I like the AAX cymbals the best. B20 bronze only way to go!

The one thing is cost, if I had all the money in the world I’d get heartbeat but I have to go for the cheap ones that have the right sound

We are worship drummers at Red and make cymbals for worship alongside our friends at Vertical Drum Co. in Oregon who make incredible drums for worship.

If instagram drum clips is what you mean by contemporary music, then yes they’re not that in vogue. But 16” have their place when you’re sharing the sonic space with, you know, other instruments. A good crash can be quick, bright, not complex. But I deffo would say: Sabian cymbals ‘suck’.

I like having a 16" for a low volume rock or pop situation, as I feel like I can still play it quite naturally without the volume getting out of control. That's kind of it for me though - I'll use either a 17" and an 18", or two 18" for pretty much everything else.

Paiste 2002 thin crash 16" is the best sounding crash EVER!!!

Well I guess it can also depend on how big your Ride cymbal is, well in my case it's a 19" Zildjian Sweet Ride, and with it I took to have on my left side (hihat side) another Zildjian 18" Medium Crash. And then at last I bought me the CRASH Cymbal and that was naturally a Zildijan 18" (like you said) Thin Crash. But as soon as I put it up on my right side over my beautiful Yamaha floor toms 14 & 16" they basically sounded the same :( Well what had happened in the mean while I went and saw the great Peter Erskitin play here in Iceland with Jakob Magnusson and after the concert I went up on the state to take a better look what Cymbals mr. Erskertin was using (since all of them sounded to good and especially his Craser! and guess what it was? A 16 inch Zildjian Sweet Crash!And on Monday morning I took my Think A Crash and swapped it for that K Sweet Crash and there I heard and fellt the right tone! But that's just mine view on Crash cymbals @ the age of 70 (LoL) and still love's to bang my drums and punch the Cymbals

Hello friend

0:15 Even most modern metal players. You mean just Rock players in general, not just metal.

16" is only good for hi hats

I like 18's and 19's more than 16's. Maybe it's because I started with a cheap pack with a 16 included, but still

Bro... I say this exactly!! I have bought packs and then sell the 16"s because I end up not using them for anything that I actually do! The 18? is by far the best and most versatile!

I agree with what you say my friend.. 100%!! I play a big set of Bright Zildjian A-Customs live and they work great in the studio as well... BUT... I recently switched to bigger cymbals and went with the Sabian HHX Complex Series Performance pack (Did a review as well) HOLY S*#*! THE BEST CYMBALS EVER!! Also gave me the options live that you talk about. I take those on the shows that are not as loud music or big venues and they totally make ALL the difference in the world as far as mixing in well with vocals and guitars! Good information! I hope to see you acquire more of that line in the future! I know that i will continue to build that line as well. I also added a 10" Splash that sounds amazing. Like another commentor said as well, i still run two Evolutions to give contrast. Keep doing a great job and building your channel! New sub here! Keep on Drumming!!

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Bonzo used 16 inch crashes and 18inch no metal drummer today can outsound his cymbal sound ,just hit your cymbals and bass drum. HARDER ,one tip is not to have your heavy metal bass drum sound like an electric Simmons bass drum,to many metal drummers have the worst sounding bass drums etc SOUNDING THIN and the worst clicking sound ever with no body listeni to cozy Powell's bass drum sound he had the best double bass drum sound all the bass drum sounds from the 70 s were the best,if it's not broken you can't fix it ,what's the point of making the biggest drum in your drum set sound like the smallest,if you get good bass drum sound your cymbals,no matter what they're size is will make a massive difference.❤️🧡💜💛❤️🧡💜🌞🌜🌟🌎🙏🌸🌼🌴🌳☺️💕

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I like my crashes to be rich, and full sounding. My Sabian 18" HHX Complex Thin Crash (that's a real mouthful to say) is perfect, especially for my more minimalistic setups. I also have a 19" AAX Thin Crash that's really great too. I think it really depends on how the cymbal is made, the thing those two crashes have in common in that the bells are unlathed, so it gives them a bit more aggression without having to be so thick that you need to really lay into it to get a decent sound out of it.

So your advice is follow the herd with your big hats… And nobody making “contemporary” music is using 16” crashes? Please…

I like the left side crash being dark, right side bright. It's a good contrast and musical sounding .

I like the complexities of dark cymbals, but I also like the clarity of bright cymbals. I want a set of each.

According to my taste the 16 inch size is the best because it still gets the crash sound compared to the 18 inch size and above, and also in my opinion the 18 inch size is too wide for the main crash size, even if it is 18 inch I prefer the thin/ozone one, for 19 inch and above I prefer I like the size of the ride cymbal

¡I JUST FUCKING LOVE this performance! The sound is aweswome, I hope you keep making covers buddy<3 Btw, I dont know how playing a drum but you have the chords? I wanna try to read them jaja

It’s all in context of the music - gonna want a Paiste 2002 (bright/loud) cymbal if you’re trying to cut through the mix of Iron Maiden sound levels. Not going to want that 2002 if you’re playing small combo jazz. But there’s outliers, most legendary jazzers played very thin, washy dark cymbals. But Joe Morello played a brighter Zildjian A & Paiste 602 in Dave Brubek Quartet. And it was perfect under his hands. I played countless gigs with a Darker ride, hats, large dark crash and then a 17” Paiste signature fast crash, which is much brighter than the other cymbals. And it worked well. Had a little high end accent. I also played a 2002 flat ride & 22” K con and I used them to contrast sections . But it’s so matter of taste when you know what works and what doesn’t. HHX crash sounds so good here too! 😮

yo could i get the stikcing for the fill you do in the versus

what cymbals are those and sizes please ? great sound!!!

What about 19inch crash

I’m a pretty ride or die sonor zildjian guy. If I ever wasn’t, I would go Gretsch and ufip.

The first kit I ever played was my dads Pearl export. My first kit was a sonor champion and I never looked back. I’ve owned some high end Pearl kits but I rarely ever gigged them. My main kits now are a Hilites and a delite. I think the best value out there for a good gigging kit that you don’t have to worry about road rash is 90s Pearl mlx and box kits. They sound great and you can get them crazy cheap.

I would agree that an 18” is a more versatile cymbals. I love my 16s though. To each their own. I personally can’t stand small splashes. All my splashes are 12”. I certainly own more 18” crashes than 16” but I still have four 16” crashes. All zils, two As, an A custom, and a K custom dark.

My church in Philly mixes gospel and CCM songs, they each use very different cymbals so I try to go in the middle.

Too much for the visual... not as much for the audio... dislike

I found a 16 that sounds excellent and fits with everything. It's actually quite loud and I was able to try before I bought it. I'm never getting rid of it

Great job

I have a Sabian "Worship pack" that my dad bought me almost 20 years ago, I never understood why they were labelled for a worship pack. My dad didn't even notice it said that "Worship pack" as we both really aren't religious lol, he just went with the sizes and they are AAX, they're good for rock, funk, pop and more.

Sound wise?? I dont have any problems with 16’s.. its just larger crash is easier to set up and to hit when your crashing.. dont give false info dude

Ah yes, the "current sound" trap. As you get older, you figure out that none of that matters. I can play gospel and CCM with 13" hats and 14" crash with an 18" ride. And it sounds fine. The bigger = better guys always sound like they are compensating for something...

turn that into hybrid tom x snare😅

wow really cool!

tobines reference

WOW its amazing !

Deserves more love that’s crazy

I like the big dark cymbals: 16" K Sweet Ride hi-hat, and 23" K Sweet Ride.

Sounds good.

So I’m not in a band and haven’t ever played live or in a studio, but I’m very picky about cymbals. For some background, I play mainly classic rock, pop, metal, some country now and again, rap and a few other genres. I’ve never been a fan of thin and dark cymbals, I play decently hard and have broken thinner cymbals, partly because I used to use bad technique as well. I find that medium-heavy weighted cymbals are truly a perfect middle ground for all applications, at least in my opinion. But I do love bright and heavy cymbals a whole lot, not extremely heavy and loud like RUDE cymbals, but more like Sabian AA cymbals. I mainly play pop and classic rock as of late, and I think brighter cymbals work better there, in my opinion. Dark cymbals just aren’t my thing, but some of them sound absolutely great.

Okay I looked everywhere and couldn't find it what are your hi-hats? I seen another videos you're using 2 16s, one is an ISO crash but what is the other?

The follow-up video to why 16" crashed suck.. Keep preaching brother haha

Still can't get why the 16 is the standard crash size with the bundles companies offer.. It's ridiculous to me. Amen brother.. Also, the thinner the better imho, or at least thick cymbals suck (for most genres anyway)