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Yeah the LMU release changed the landscape of online multiclass I think. I think in a year from now with some more tracks and content...lmu could really raise the bar. AMS2 suffers with the online thing....and as much as I love AMS2, I've no confidence they can deliver it. I hope I'm wrong.

@@GSSimRacing I think that the 2024 DLC with the new tracks, cars and GT3 will be a game-changer at LMU

Yep for sure. And it's done quite well. I've discovered aswell that they're updating their nascar running tracks for the new console game they're brining out. So these are getting a revamp in iracing apparently, ahead of this. And I've discovered trading paints recently too. It adds a lot of colour to the grid.

I don't set the ads. CZcams does it automatically. Maybe they're getting a bit more frequent on the auto placements.

@@GSSimRacing i understand that, although you could turn off midroll ADs or at least manage their placement. There are options for this. I will give your video another try, I am always interested in hearing your opinion.

@@xzanman Stop complaining about ads, it's his video. If you don't like ads get CZcams Premium.

Yeah CZcams premium is the way to go. I have it for my family and I spend 80% of my TV watching time on CZcams. And the CZcams music is a nice add on. Regarding the ads themselves....youtube give me like, 10-15 dollars per month. Sim racing is just not popular enough in volume for anyone to make realistic money. I do this as a hobby and have a full time job etc. I do appreciate how difficult it is for sim racers to make it as content creators full time. It's not easy and sim racing has a smaller pool of people globally compared to other hobbies. Going off topic a little, but just so everyone knows how the whole advert things work. Channels with more views and so on would get more of course, but it's still nothing huge, unless you're Mr Beast or something. 😂

@@BeckMax No. I will not be forced to pay for a service that was meant to be free. Buying premium only helps very rich people become even richer. If everyone bought premium, content creator's would get far less money than they do now. I could easily watch CZcams Ad free but I choose not to because I want to support content creator's, I only ask that the creator's act responsible and in the long term best interests of everyone.

Yeah LMU does feel a lot better than ACC for sure. The physics and FFB are much more modern and refined.

The ACC model follows the SRO balance of performance. In the AMS2 version it's on the Brazilian endurance ruleset with different BOP. In fact, I'm unsure if there is a correct bop for GT3 in that series.

Yeah, I think when it comes to "best", iRacing usually gets noticed because of the online system and amount of content and disciplines available. However, it is lacking in many areas. Graphics and FFB is one such downfall. Considering the monthly subs they get from members, and the amount of content sales they rack up, it is disappointing to see very slow progress in some of these key areas. The tyre model still needs some work, the drop off in grip from a small spin or slide seems way overdone too....although every sim needs a tyre model tweak for various reasons.

It's still allowed in bronze and silver daily races. Weekly silver they seem to be disallowed, and disallowed on gold. I haven't been playing it much though. Been having fun in iracing lately with ovals, open wheelers etc.

@@GSSimRacing progress at least, will give the weekly race a go then!

If AMS2 had a proper online system, we'd have the winner in sim racing. All the choice, tracks, live track etc. A small change to the tyre model is needed too I think, just to make it slightly less forgiving on some cars.

Well said sir, AMS2 with good online would change the landscape of sim racing in my opinion...

Yeah I am going to try stream something over the next couple of days. I was on vacation last week and returned this week being sick. But it is on my list of things to do. Probably LMU or iRacing...?

Ah ok do you have Asseto Corsa Competizione because If you can play online we can play maybe together

If you want

There is no winner as such. ACC has livelier and more direct FFB. iRacing has the largest player base for ranked racing and choice, anywhere.

and mickey mouse setups, broken physics. yeah acc wins... not

@@MM-mx8sr I don't think the physics are broken, but there are some exploits, similar to cooling tyres on the grass in iRacing (unless it has been fixed)? I am playing more IR lately for the added variety and quickness of jumping into a race. I hope IR update the FFB polling rate though from 60hz to a true 360-400hz. There should be no excuses in today's age....unless the underlying physics engine is so old and not capable....which is possible too.

@@GSSimRacing I'd rather race with better FFB and better Physics than larger player base that 80% can't drive and all you hear is bitching every race when half the cars are taken out on the first lap because they haven't figured out you can win on lap one.Not enjoyable to me.

​@tomtabone7949 this sounds like a low split problem tbh. I've been sim racing for 10+ years on pretty much all sim platforms and I can promise you'll find way more clean competitive racing on iracing than on any other platform. Still will always hate the business model though, so expensive

Glad I could help you out.

Yeah the rears slide a little too much, although I do think that it is still unforgiving it you abuse it. The car can really let go on all 4 tyres if you get silly.

Yeah I think you are right, I am over driving on entry and destroying the tyre. I have been trying to keep it much slower on the way in and get it straighter on the way out too. The changes are tiny, but it seems to be making a difference. Your advice helped here.

Yeah I have driven them there. I really like that iRacing has these smaller ovals in there. I done a race at Oxford Plains the other day. It is literally a constant left turn. Have you ever visited the track on race days etc?

Yeah it is very stable and sure footed. I often find it's always impossible to get understeer induced oversteer on AMS2. But I'm with ya on the multiplayer, it is fun. If you want super tight racing, ovals on there in the pick up truck is great. Not too fast so no loss of control and close pack racing in the draft.

Thank you. Yeah it is actually good fun and you can see that most people at least try to be clean. I think in Rookies most wrecks seem to happen through loss of control and not through being dirty. So far I am enjoying it more than I thought I would, this time around. And yeah the online ranking system certainly adds a tonne of value and knowing that it is managed with a protest system is very appealing. It almost feels like I am in a real life virtual motorsport career against other humans. It's cool.

Noted, thanks for the feedback. Would you suggest lowering game volume, or just reduce ducking?

@@GSSimRacing just reduce the game volume. Also try and speak more clearly, I know it takes more energy out of u, but give it a try ;)

Yes, RF2 ffb was too much. LMU is an improvement. The physics feel very similar. Some cars are almost impossible to drive for any new drivers. Like the vanwall.

I am not against people using them online in general, but I am for ranked racing. The challenge is car control in its raw simulated form. The moment you add driver aids, this gets watered down a lot.

I'll check that out, thanks for the heads up. It's deffo more complex than it needs to be.

No, there could be settings that can be changed to fix this. What level are you running your ffb at in game and on base. And what level is your impact strength at?

Check this video out. I made it when LMU was released. I know they changed some setting values, but try this and see what you think. czcams.com/video/L-AZKZOtUtg/video.html

@@GSSimRacing So I'm running 95% FFB and Collision strength is around 20%. LMU have since removed the curb settings.

You could lower damper and friction. The game will put out ffb based on physics. Maybe run interpolation at 1 but most other settings I leave off.

@GSSimRacing yea I've tried it all to get the feel I want. I have it dialed in perfect for me ATM. Like I said, it was for iracing since it's such a boring wheel. Here in AMS2 😍😍😍😍 huge difference compared to how I felt it before.

@@MRD0889 Yeah iRacing has a dull FFB feedback by comparison from what I remember. And the low 60hz refresh rate doesn't help.

Yeah it was not to call him out, but when he mentioned that it was on me, I used this as an opp to show the actual pov of what happened from all angles and to grow from it. I did not report it on the LMU reporting thing or anything. It is just a case of a driver that needs to be more aware of a door that is closing and to have a plan B. When I kill someone (and I have done for sure) I always apologise. I think his attitude of blaming me also flamed me. If had of said sorry or something like this, it would be a non issue. But I just can't leave it as is because I want to help educate people to make it cleaner for us, them, everyone. The next time I cause something, I will also review it. I am not perfect and can also admit if I screw up LOL.

@@GSSimRacing i don’t think he saw the replay and I’m wondering if you flat out accused him of cheating like you did here before he had a chance to say sorry? i know him from rf2, he’s a very clean driver (like i said avg race pace and below average quali pace- he’d admit the same) and i think he simply made a mistake when he went on the grass. For sure his fault but not worth making a yt video ripping one of the nicer guys in our hobby a new one literally by name but i understand your frustration. If he watched the replay i bet he would’ve accepted responsibility. Actually i know he would have bc he has with me once in the past I’m disappointed in both of you. You, for making a video about literally one of the nicer guys in our hobby who made an honest mistake and then outright refusing to show your pov while essentially providing the explanation “trust me i did everything right” you know better that all povs are important when assigning fault. There a reason sim racing stewards asks as many as possible after all. I don’t have to explain further, you know better and it a bad example to say what you did. Im disappointed in Josh for not realizing his mistake and then his poor attitude towards one of my favorite creators. If he does apologize next time you see him to you I’d feel pretty bad for making this video.

@@GSSimRacing also out of confusion and bc i know he’s a good dude overall and helped me in rf2, If you weren’t trying to call him out then why did you call him out by name in the beginning of your video? Sounds a lot like a personal call out to most people.

@@JMak02 No not personal at all. But I see your point. I have trimmed his name out of the video. A personal call out was not my intention. But I can see how it could come across this way so I have edited his name bit out. Will prob take a while for YT to render the edit.

@@GSSimRacing was your discussion with him after or during the race?

LOL. Thank you. Yep race craft is the most important thing and keeping the car safe by not risking very low probability overtakes. The next time I cause a crash that is my fault, I promise to review it. I am not perfect and on occasion can cause something. So just to give balance and I am not seen to be flaming my opponents etc.

Jump to 4:48 and tell me what you think the correct thing is to do? You'll see over the next few seconds that he takes to the grass to get along side, ie - the door is closed, there is no safe spot. My line was kept dead straight the entire time towards the left. I made no steering inputs whatsoever. I was purposeful to do this. If you pause at 5:05 you can see he turns out to the left into me and the mayhem begins. You are looking for small reasons to blame the black car I think. But let's be honest, there is none. It is poor driving from red. It was a bad decision by me to expect clean racing in an open lobby. In future I will move sooner and block completely. It seems to be the safest way in open lobbies. In a league race this would never ever have happened. I'd bet my house on it.

@@GSSimRacing am an idiot and posted new comment instead of responding to you, sorry Gary🤣; “⁠ yeah he shoulda used the over run to just drive like 2 car lengths ahead lol. I still don’t think it’s intentional, more like new driver got loose on grass and you happened to be the next pixel away. Seems like he had one hell of a run though that closing speed was crazy and being on grass losing grip probably took him by surprise and probably panicked. Lol just bc u mentioned his name at start (not to call him out), he’s usually average pace but very clean, almost certain I’ve had some of my more enjoyable races against him before without any issues on rf2 and LMU (sounds like same name on both it seems) Surprised at it.”

Well he took me out, so that's all there is to it.

Terrible sportsmanship from me? 😂 . I done absolutely nothing wrong here.

@GSSimRacing that's an arrogant position for someone looking to educate sim racers. The red car created an environment where an accident could take place, you caused the accident. You did not fully occupy the outside nor did you give space with all the room available left. He shouldn't have made such a risky move but by no means would any sensible sim racer in your position squeeze him out there, that is what caused the accident. The vast majority of experienced drivers will agree that there is fault on both sides.

@@AutySim There was no squeeze, he needs to be alongside for me to squeeze in the first place, which he is not.

Yeah I agree. Although many believe that this is my fault or are apportioning some blame to me. It's disheartening that even when something is analysed in detail and objectively, people still feel that the leading car should move and give space. But again, this seems to be opinion among some public lobby players who have (generally) a very different view of racing etiquitte).

@@GSSimRacing I am unfortunately still at Rooky level and it is super hard to get a proper safety rating on that level as there are countless people who just drive as if their lives depend on it. You train hard to qualify amongst the first two rows of the grid and then someone is just shooting you out of the race at first lap. On top of receiving a bad rating for the worse position you also get a bad rating for the collision you did not cause. It is super frustrating and only the awesomeness of the drive feel keeps me racing at LMU. If I have people who qualified better than me I always have respect for their performance and it would just be disrespectful to start a dive at T1. I only attack them when I feel that I can go quicker over the full trajectory of the race. I hope that, as soon as all the teething problems of LMU are sorted out, it will be implemented at LFM. Then I am sure, racing will become more professional on each level.

@@Freddy_Merckx to get out of the rookies and bronze etc it is important to finish races. You get more ranking points on safety for completing laps.

@@GSSimRacing Yeah, I usually do. But a good hint as I sometimes don‘t care enough to have valid laps.

Yeah, in fairness he was catching me by a few tenths anyway and I was fresh on with no practise running, so he would have gotten me before the end of the race anyway. So this do or die move was not needed at all.

I can see this point but I can't agree fully. It is racing and I moving out of the way to let someone past is not racing. I really look forward to having dedicated servers and being able to run leagues.

Yeah for sure. I was shocked that he even kept the throttle pinned as he lost control too. So he was perfectly OK to wipe me out regardless. Sad to see.