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ehm no, never had something like that oO are u sure its not just the thing with only one rune being able to reg at the same time in cata? cause that might make it look like 2 runes both got on cd for an ability sometimes (but its just stil on cd and can only start regging if other rune pair finished) i think if a bug like that of consuming 2 for hb actually existed they would have fixed in no time cause all the pve people would have reported it ;D so i think its working fine

benediction (but i also have chars on firemaw and gehennas)

yea bro :D idk, just blizzard things haha sadly blood is kinda useless in 3s

nop i kinda stopped playing 2s except for gearing chars in cata but ye i know double blood dk is sick in 2s xd

ignoring it, expertise is one of the worst stats for dk in pvp

fallen crusader overall for most games. second weapon with swordshatter ench vs anything that disarms like rogue etc. third weapon with spellshatter vs stuff like sp mage/rog that will try to full silence the dk alot (alltho this particuar one is probly more useful just for unholy, as blood hardly will die in one silence and gets more value from swordshatter versus class like rogue)

@@Razoonx thanks a ton for the explanation man 🤙. What’s the stat priority btw? Mastery>crit>haste?

@@Glasstoker93 np, about the stat priority i think its exactly the other way around xd haste >crit>mastery mastery isnt that useful for blood pvp, cause no one in their right mind would try to kill the blood dk and probly rather go on the mate instead. Maybe for double blood dk it could be more useful, but even then i dont think its that good, cause people kite alot in pvp so bloodshield healing increase is not as realiable. Haste (for Rune Regen speed) and Crit are both nice to have, alltho Deathstrike alrdy crits alot from talents and there is no +crit dmg bonus anymore for blood), so it kinda leaves haste as the most useful secondary stat overall for pvp. Most important is just to get hit cap 5% and spellpen cap 195 and stack as much strength as possible with some resil pvp gear and you are good to go.

@@Razoonx makes a lot of sense. I see varying info from old OG cata videos and posts but this makes more sense to me for sure

hey ty, the addon is bloodshield tracker

@@Razoonx Thank you.

There is no real rotation in pvp, it just depends on the situation. For Frost/Death Runes Prio Howling Blast from range or if you need magic dmg/aoe. For Unholy Runes/Death Runes Prio Necrotic Strike if you need physical dmg and healing absorb single target pressure against healing instead of burst. If you need big burst use killing machine Frost Strike as magic dmg or Obliterate with killing maschine (rarer, 2 runes cost, mostly versus Cloth/Leather or AMS and as an execute) as physical dmg. Also normal Frost Strike for burst and before you overcap 130 runic power, but if you are not bursting, prioritize rune usage instead. Plague Strike for an extra dot if you are not bursting and building dmg (also there is outbreak which can do same with saving a rune, Diseases are not that important prio anymore for Frost and Frost Feaver will come automatically from Howling Blast/Chains). Chains if you need slow more than dmg, if the Howling Blast/Chill blains/other mate slow is not enough or if you need fast runic power (for ibf for example, pvp hands give extra rp so its fast way to get rp with only one rune). Save one Death Rune for Strangulate if you can get a good silence oportunity on the enemy to kill/force big CDs. Deathcoil only if u have spare Runic Power and can not reach target after Howling Blast(or about to overcap big on rp). I think that was p much all. TLDR burst prio: KM Frost Strike > Howling Blast/Necrotic Strike > Frost Strike (also not overcap 130 rp too much)> Deathcoil if high RP and out of range for Frost Strike. <(Obliterate special use case physical dmg burst execute). For non burst dmg prios see full text above.

HB x 4 then Necro x2 for damage dealers. Necro x 4 then HB x 2 against heals

wago.io/NsoiZnZ34/8 or Loss of Control Alerter Addon also works like this i think, but it only works for the player, for arena mates still have to use the old losecontrol

anyway, good video

@@opgang7861 ty, ye idk, dk feels extremely paper on cata classic, sadly enemies here often get rewarded by just tunneling dk (especially rog/mage and if you dont play with a ret or hunter to support the healer on that it feels allmost unplayable in classic) sometimes they also succeed by going on hunter, but i guess most just prefer killing dk in a silence and through all CDs over going through 2x deterrence

@@Razoonx yea, that also works

hey, thats the addon losecontrol: www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/losecontrol no update for cata yet sadly on that addon but still works for most spells

usually below 1 minute or max 2 mins, but depends on rate also, at 2,3-2.4 mmr or higher it might be 5 mins + or even longer but it depends on the day of the week and server time as well ofc

yo sry cant link you those cause i got them from a sub only discord channel, so it would be inappropiate for me to just share them around. Thats the discord where you can get them with a twitch sub: discord.gg/uCTFqHwtXP What i can do for you tho is link you the Defensive Buffs Weakaura showing bop and link etc., its made by my arena mate and he said he does not mind me sharing his WA: pastebin.com/U6RdYemq

@@Razoonx 🤜🤛🤍💙❤

5% Hitcap, 195 Spellpen, +- 3200 Resil Strength > Mastery > Haste > Crit > rest

www.wowhead.com/cata/talent-calc/death-knight/0230102-32301222230112212301_001xv711s8q21s8731s7z41xv351s7t61s9r71s8g81sxd its better to prio mastery over haste as frost for all specs

talents is in video description and comments, also its literally just full vicious pvp set with mastery

@@Razoonx and the arms?

​@@Razoonx And what weapons do you use? The talents are not in the description, could you please send them to me for a dk frost pvp and the set with the gems?

@@kevinosorio3154 sixtyupgrades.com/cata/set/sEjcod4iJvddDMAsEpoB6n the talent link i put 100% in the description bro, anyway i can link it again for u: www.wowhead.com/cata/talent-calc/death-knight/0230002-32031222232112210031-1_001s8q11xv721s9f31s7z41s7t51xv361sxd71s8g81s9r its also in the gear list i just made, make sure to reforge 5% hitcap and rest full mastery, i recommend reforge light addon for this E: and also there is alot of flex points in talents, up to you if you want to play with obliterate glyph/talent or icy touch or deathcoil glyph instead, its just preference, same for some other talents like unholy command

@@Razoonx How many points should the mastery be worth?

sure also gonna use dual wield frost again in my next video ;) : www.wowhead.com/cata/talent-calc/death-knight/0230102-32301222230112212301_001xv711s8q21s8731s7z41xv351s7t61s9r71s8g81sxd there is still alot of flex points in the second row, endless winter, scent of blood vs unholy command or even desecration build etc. obliterate build is also possible with dual wield after moving these flex points to annihilation, just depends if you want a bit more burst on execute or a more steady build with more utility

@@Razoonx Thats awesome thank you for the super fast response. I am new to DK PVP and I dont want to follow the UH meta. I love the look of DW.

np man gl!

@@Razoonx What Vicious DW weapons do you recommend?

@@DymarCurusil 2,6 speed mace or sword as human or 2,6 speed axe as orc mace has a bit higher max dmg and lower min dmg compared to sword, but the diff is so small it does not rly matter, i chose maces for dual wield on human

www.wowhead.com/cata/talent-calc/death-knight/0230002-32031222232112210031-1_001s8q11xv721s9f31s7z41s7t51xv361sxd71s8g81s9r if you want, check the video description for more detail info about the build and flex talent points etc.^^

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not sure which one u mean exactly but in middle of screen i use an omnibar style weakaura for enemy cds (basically just does the same as the addon omnibar tho) and a loss of control weakaura (which again, does the same as the addon losecontrol but has updated cata spells). one of these two addons or weakauras that mimic them should be what you are looking for

yea no, doesn't work in pvp anymore and made blood dk so broken back then. people will also get mad now ofc :D cause its still kinda troll to face it haha some even think its still the fotm spec like in OG cata, but thats not the case with the changes, in last patch its only rly good for open, bgs (remains inferior to feral as fc for rbgs tho i guess), 1v1s against some classes and in tanking dmg in general so it also somewhat works in 2v2 with another dps especially on a undergeared or low resil char its useful to go blood to start out with pvp, as its tanky af even in low gear, with decent burst dmg

hmm, i use a pretty standard ui with just some weakauras for enemy CDs and procs/buffs if you mean the party frame on left its in interface options raid style party frames in blizzard ui settings and then omnicd for party cds and losecontrol for party CCs leatrix plus to move buffs debuffs this far

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strength and haste after 5% hitcap and 195 spellpen cap, its bascially same prio as unholy (except that you could get away with even less tanky gear/lower resil if you want)

sheesh pisko die legende haha komm ran, qwneer hat letztens nach dir gefragt^^

hm, i don't like it, its PPM is rly bad, idk if that a bug in classic or supposed to be like that but it allmost never procs when needed the most and even then its only 2x stacks, looks better on paper than it actually is imo meanwhile fallen crusader allmost perma uptime with high proc chance and +15% str profiting every single ability and also necros, i think its better. Some small free selfhealing too, even tho thats not the main reason. For dual wield i would use razorice together with fc

For Single Target: Spam Necrotic on Unholy and Death Runes and Howling Blast on Frost Runes (if there is any enemy healing abilities, but thats the case most of the time), Frost Strike on KM Proc to burst or after Runes are spent. Diseases for Frost are way less important compared to WotLK, but before you start bursting, its also good to put them on target with Outbreak or Plague Strike. If some pala spam dispell them, just fk it tho, its not a high prio anymore and Frost Feaver will come automatically from HB. Obliterate is just more of an Execute Ability or to maybe make people panic and pop fast CDs, it can have a high burst (especially if glyphed/talented and with KM), but also comes at a high cost (2 Runes and consuming the KM proc). So if there is enemy healing involved you want to prio Necro, except for the said Execute (if you can make someone bubble/bop or kill him in next globals or got enough Necros stacked already). For duo target its hard to say, i would probly use most of the Death Runes on Howling Blast instead of Necros, but it could be worth to focus and take out one target still, so depends. For 3+ target, just spam Howling Blast, thats one of the main reasons why Frost DK is so good in RBG anyway. And i wouldnt worry about spreading Blood Plague too much (unless u somehow running the -10% meele dmg on Blood Plague talent from sub blood tree). When multiple targets are stacked you could spread both diseases for some extra dot dmg i guess, if you think the fight is going to last long enough to be worth. But honestly, you should be fine with just Howling Blast spam on aoe and Frost Feaver will get spread automatically with the Glyph.

hm not on cata i just play

@@Razoonx schade

no, this is not pve... max deathstrike burst is key in pvp and what u described would be a waste of runes alot of times (HS profits from Diseases but not DS). Even if spam DS might look dumb to you, with the crit talent its the best burst and there is no point caring so much about diseases if people are about to immune them with bubble/block or dispell them (other than that from what i can see i mostly kept diseases if i dont need to burst right there). Same for Bone Shield, especially with long GCD as Blood, if you want to do dmg and are about to lose a potential DS, not worth. Heart Strike would agree, unless you want to force a CD or finish someone off and globals would take too long, but i dont rly see me hsing without Disease anyway in this vid. Sorry, but i can tell that you come from a pve perspective, if you strictly follow the prio you mentioned you will lose out on alot of good globals to apply pressure in a short window :/

@@Razoonx I'm 2.4 + xp on all class in RBG, arena and 2.6k+ soloshufle... You're not spamming DS all the time, and in the in-between, you should refresh your dots + BS. You just sitting there like a duck waiting for DS spam, getting carried but the Op-ness of the class. Boring, take notes when someone points the obvious instead of tryng to poorly justify your mistakes. Meh...

@aiglemimi sure link me your ironforge pls. (you mean 2,4k+ in cata classic and not retail right? i hope so, otherwise icksdee) 🤦‍♂if you are bursting or about to burst you spam DS, otherwise you refresh your dots (like i did) and BS you can take completely off the bars and just HS with Blood Runes idk its bit cringe getting schooled by some guy thats clearly out of touch with classic arena... no one cares about solo shuffle exp in classic and blood dk "Op-ness of the class" xD rly? its just a meme 2v2 spec in last patch and nobody plays this serious on high rate, let alone dk across all classes has the lowest ranks in 3v3 so i really dont know what you are talking about, again

@@Razoonx Yet again, you're assuming things to lessen the point I've made. Sad.. You're right, stay the way you are. Cya

@@aiglemimi you still didnt link your ironforge :D

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yr, but so is most 2s comps in cata now, its not like thug or firmage healer zug is way less monkey they made the game about 3v3 now anyway

its a dk HUD weakaura from tenzo discord server for his subs: discord.gg/uCTFqHwtXP

after 5% Hitcap and 195 Spellpen and around + - 3,2k Resil Strength > Mastery > Haste > Crit > other stats