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all of this is temporary: Mark Fisher
From Upper Crust to FOMO, Mark Fisher enlightens us all at Rich Mix, London as part of #allofthisistemporary on 23rd Feb 2016.
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all of this is temporary: the wrap-up
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'all of this is temporary' was an abstract night of art, music, poetry & discussion exploring capitalism and post-capitalism. We had ⚡electrifying live poetry from Deanna Rodger & Anthony Anaxagorou, 🎤 thought provoking talks from Mark Fisher & Alex Williams, 🎵 exceptional sounds from DJ Baloo & Miss Nadiax, 🔥 thundering visuals from Oddscene, 🐒 hilar commentary from The White Pube, and an 💣 in...
all of this is temporary: who are you?
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We created a social experiment asking a simple question and this is what we found... Can you imagine any different? Join us on 23/02/16 and maybe you'll find another answer.
27:00 here for this
This is very... very.... complicated and... interesting........🤔.... mark Fisher is great tinker.... but.... for years and years.... after...Marx and Hegel.... and others.... Trying to find solution of the reality and unreality... Of this philosophical and social.... life..... but....is not power human can do.....we live the world we make....so ..... for me is this....( The way the world.... humanity Make is not truth, but ...perhaps the way the world make humanity is truth).... beautiful contradiccion we have to accept....👋😄....RIP.....Sr ..Mark Fisher.
In 2024 the Blairites just levelled up their cynicism. They step further to the right, and they keep winning. And winning is the eradication of dissident voices. The elimination of hope. If the far right win, that’s okay. That’s the acceptable, disciplining for people who don’t vote correctly.
25:14 "An anxious life...is a series of embedded urgencies" 💀💀💀😵💫
This was all before 2020 as well.
6 pounds 8 years ago for a baguette!!! And he says he bought them multiple times!! Where is Thoreau when we need him. If you do you manage to escape from this rat race - you end up without much other than your freedom!
I think Capitalist Realism was summed up to me when he said that it doesn’t want workers to be productive, it simply wants to eliminate their ability to imagine any alternative.
My favourite of Fisher's works is "Good For Nothing", describing mental health and particularly depression as resulting from the maddening neoliberal "believe and you can achieve" mentality that describes every success as entirely yours and therefore every failure as entirely yours. Audio version here: czcams.com/video/e_h_5Ykj7vA/video.html
GPT summary: "This speech explores "capitalist realism," the pervasive belief that capitalism is the only viable system. The speaker discusses how neoliberalism has crushed class consciousness, psychedelic consciousness, and feminist consciousness-raising. Despite this, they see hope in emerging leftist movements that challenge the status quo and promote new, collective ways of thinking."
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@27:40 Fisher pronounces the 'good news': 'the system is breaking down and we can see the symptoms of its breakdown.' Well, no, sir. Had you lived long enough, Mark Fisher, and didn't take off leaving us here alone in the dark, without your visionary guidance, you would've seen how well the system cured these morbid symptoms of the breakdown. The preemptive strike. The Lockdown. Ultimate individual isolation and elimination of any possibilities of the collective consciousness raising. (I am not a conspiracy theorist and do not believe the pandemic was fake or created, no, it was one of those unexpected heavenly gifts to them.) Gods are not on our side. While our Prophets, Mark Fisher, David Graeber, and others are being crushed by the system.
if the military decided to go against us it will collapse in one day
A great lecture worth summarising. I used online tools to do that. I hope you all find it useful. **Title: All This Is Temporary - on Capitalism and Consciousness: A Critical Analysis** - **Defining Capitalism Realism** - Conceptualizing capitalism beyond mere economic system - Understanding capitalist realism as a form of consciousness deflation - **The Rise of Capitalist Consciousness** - Correlation between capitalism's rise and diminishing consciousness diversity - Neoliberalism as a strategy to crush emerging consciousness forms - **Forms of Consciousness in the 60s and 70s** - Class Consciousness - Decline of class consciousness post-70s - Impact of neoliberal strategies on class structures and unions - Psychedelic Consciousness - Expansion of psychedelic culture beyond drug use - Beatles and mainstreaming of psychedelic consciousness - Socialist Feminist Consciousness - Practice of consciousness raising - Relating personal feelings to structural issues - **Neoliberalism's Response to Consciousness** - Libidinal engineering and reality manipulation - Imposition of anxious, time-strapped consciousness - Promotion of individualism and eradication of collective time - **Symptoms of Neoliberalism's Breakdown** - Collapse of the center and rise of right-wing populism - Emergence of leftist movements like Corbynism - Left's learning curve since the 2008 financial crisis - **Prospects for Post-Capitalism** - Riding the wave towards a post-capitalist future - Possibility for emergence of new political formations - Optimism in building towards post-capitalism, despite setbacks
@SH-cu9rc Thank you very much. I missed some of the words because the audio is so awful and his British accent difficult for me. I would like to add something to this category of yours: *Forms of Consciousness in the 60s and 70s*. Not a direct quotation. Consciousness, especially experiencing group consciousness, makes one realize that the perceived reality is plastic and fluid, not static and concrete. Relating personal feelings and *experiences, as in feminist teach-ins.
@@lunaridge4510 Thank you for your comment and addition. Yes, some people find some of the British accents difficult to understand, although his is 'mainstream', if you can say that. But, I notice that it does not flow, and you can tell there is a lot going on in his mind while speaking. Also, when you know how much he struggled with his mental health, you'd understand some of the reasons behind his way of speaking, at times better than others though. He was a great man, he is a great loss. RIP
Weird stand up. Didn’t get it.
God, I'm gonna miss you Mark Fisher. Thank you for your brief time here on Earth, thank you for your wisdom and your strength.
Sack the audio guy
Mark Fisher's Russel Brand - czcams.com/video/Pa5jiA9YP7Q/video.htmlsi=TFfb4b4DNTz4Z97a
czcams.com/video/Pa5jiA9YP7Q/video.htmlsi=TFfb4b4DNTz4Z97a
Thought he is on Ted talk scared the shit out of me
anime is worse
god i love mark fisher - thanks for uploading this - wish he was still with us
it still breaks me he killed himself. i hope i never such hopelessness, but I understand every human is vulnerable to this, and some more than others. I will never fear this happening. I wonder what mark would of thought of large language models such as chatGPT.
“It is not worth the bother of killing yourself, since you always kill yourself too late.” -Emil Cioran
Please let’s discuss the in practice slave religion of marxism. Please tell me how a slacker benefactor and leach of the bourgeoisie. Who not only never worked a day in his life but never knew or spoke kindly of a single proletariat ever. Why should he be the process of thinking by people like me that have worked their entire lives?
Its not a religion its a theory of economic relation and that person who refuses to work has probably rejected this capitalist alienation. Without this alienation and given the ability to be pursue genuinely productive labor, that small minority you speak of can actually feel connected to their work. There's nothing supernatural about wanting life to be worth living.
lol the username
You have trouble explaining what your religion is because it’s complete dog shit. Capitalism has many flaws but it’s not a blanket excuse for the endless sophistries of the lazy and weak.
it made people lazy and weak
"People are just lazy, systems and conditions don't matter" is, ironically, a very lazy manner of thinking. You just don't like the thought of the psyche bred into you being kicked out from underneath you.
"its your fault" !
Genuinely the best contemporary analysis of the current state of capitalism in the 21st
was this real? =
analog horror referential horror ironic horror meta horror I cant stop asking myself
I recently viewed a CZcams video about the homeless and working poor in Seattle Washington, USA. One case showed a temporary construction worker who lived with his two children and wife in a tent city. He was asked if he was a proud American. He had difficulty answering. Ultimately he claimed he loved his country. He was then asked how he felt about the inequality between rich and poor in the US. He claimed he felt no animosity toward the rich and added, "I've never been given a job by a poor person". The entire orientation here is erroneous, but to put it in the vernacular - that's just the way it is.
It's because people in need are rarely fit to go helping those around them. People in America trust the wealthy to distribute wealth within society, but helping people doesn't stop at just giving them things, ESPECIALLY when there's a financial return expected on whatever was given, it's not a gift if it's expected back with interest. They're being exploited, and all they can think is "well, at least I've still got work", even when they've got no home, even when there isn't enough to eat, even when there's not enough time to care for your kids, at least they've still got that job that pays shit, always asks more of them everyday, and doesn't care about the difficulty of the work, or lack of tools to get it done, at least they've still got that job that pays them a couple crumbs a day, as long as they have that, they can trick themselves into thinking that everything's still fine and dandy, because, really, they do feel as helpless as they are, but are terrified of recognizing it, as though realizing it would suddenly make all the losses real...
This is extremely prescient, the decline since 2016 is massive
Crazy it’s almost been 10 years already since 2016…other than bits and pieces of technology, the decline seems to be across the board. There is no such thing as public trust anymore. The best and brightest are doing their best to shelter themselves and their families and are hunkered down, homeschooling their children using very expensive virtual or private tutors. Save whatever money you can and put that towards building up your independence.
Wow this stand-up comedy fucking sucks
go do some gaming
@@ttllymxicoGot his ass
Getting to the end of this when he’s expressing optimism and bringing up corbyn etc I can’t get the “does he know? He doesn’t know” Batman meme out of my head 😢
life is competitive and hierarchical, this video is so stupid.
this guy would have been the life of the party back in the day
The opposite of FOMO (fear of missing out) is JOMO (Joy Of Missing Out).
keep telling yourself this, and u will miss out.
the. change. will. come.
Ah 2016, the last year of hope
I suppose I have to give Fisher props for trying, but....He thought neoliberalism was 'breaking down' in 2016; that it hadn't come up with any answers since the 2008 financial crash. Oh, but they have! (viewing this now almost seven years since he gave this talk) -- it seems they are 'saving us' from fascism (even as neoliberalism continues to deliver us fascism). The system continues to find enough dolts who will buy what they are selling. I would need to see a change in that before I could begin to feel any optimism.
I presume you're talking about Starmer and the reassertion of the neo-liberal body of the Labour party, the destruction of the Labour left, and so on. Not only are they going to save us from the fascistic Tory party, but they saved us from the chaos of our own ideas! But I think that the constitutional reauthoritisation of the Labour party is an indication that they are losing control, not that they have come up with a solution. Nor do they present to the electorate as having a solution, however they do seem to the electorate to be a safer bet than the Tories. Therefore, if Labour wins the next election, and wins it by a mile, I would read it as a protest vote. The real problem is that we cannot seem to break out of this cycle; that whenever a breakout moment presents itself (2017), it is crushed by some form of internal political imperialism (2019). Sadly this is the outcome of all such moments in history.
@@YTSqwid Thanks - I'm actually commenting from within the US context, but I understand that the political and media classes are employing much the same rhetoric and tactics throughout the west. The thing is, managing to stay in power regardless of the outcomes for the rest of us is -- for them -- a 'solution.' Does pointing out how bad those outcomes are amount to much if they keep managing to stay in office regardless? All I can say is, I surely hope a time comes when we can all look back on this extended, decades-unfolding moment in politics as safely in the past, having somehow managed to transcend it.
@@ronmackinnon9374 Sorry, I saw the British name. Well we have many parallels. Right the way back to 1945, then Reagan/Thatcher, through to now with Sanders/Corbyn, Biden/Starmer. Yes, Fisher's prophecy seems to be off. Perhaps he didn't consider the fiscal tools a state has to reinforce the system - namely debt. But debt bubbles are named such for a reason. I think they will maintain control right up until the moment they don't. What frightens me is not the prospect that there will be no pop, but that our respective constitutions are not democratic enough for us to elect for an appropriate response.
He only sees half the picture. Totally ignores culture and race. Imagine unironically thinking people went to pubs because of 'class conciousness' c'mon man.
how old are you and where did you grow up
by your subscriptions i think you are a generation who did not grow up in eras where there was a class consciousness because this was definitely a fucking thing
@@yoooohooooo lol. Is that a refutation?
Wow! Then came Covid lockdown! I wonder what affect that has had on the current structure. Collective consciousness is indeed rising.
I find Fisher and his thoughts quite intriguing but many of which flies above my head. I really want to understand more though. Would any kind person be able to point me in a direction for a way in to some of these ideas? TIA!
Try reading Jameson, Delueze, Barthes, Debord, Marcuse, Becker, and Baudrillard.
This is why gen z is so mentally ill and bizarre. They’ve spent their whole lives under the thumb of capital surveillance, and much higher portion of their life exposed to propaganda and capital manipulation. At least older people had a childhood without this
He mesmerises me. Could anyone help? I'm stuck with Covid in my claustrophobic London room and decided to subtitle into Italian some of Fisher's talks available on YT, including this one. Sooooo... is it an advert he's referring to at 15:59 ? "Up across there's passion about sandwiches" ? Does anyone know the reference?
Upper Crust: They're passtionate about sandwiches
why am i suddenly getting flashbacks to the sandwiches of my homeland woah unlocked memories
The unnameable.
Love this man. He helps me with my depression in some weird way.
Watching this in 2022 and more relevant than ever as the political agenda of neoliberalism trumps proper epidemiology.
This talk is indeed haunting, It haunts all who have to work for a living, What a terrible loss both Fisher and Graeber. It's almost unbelievable we lost both of these profound thinkers.
can you re upload louder?
“If Corbyn is crushed” damn he saw it coming. La lutta continua.
But did he imagine the exact, hideous, defamatory means through which they would do so?! Just as well that he didn't have to witness it play out.
@@ronmackinnon9374 I can just imagine what the lockdown would've done to his mind.
The so-called Left today is filled with douchebags and losers - like Corbyn.
lol You normies
Great talk. more relevant almost 6 years later. RIP!
May I screencap this and post it on my instagram with a link to this original? I love this and I feel it's inspiring.