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www.nytimes.com/2023/07/07/books/review/ultra-processed-people-chris-van-tulleken.html Here's a review of the book Ultraprocessed People, which goes into great depth on the subject. Also, the glycemic index of white bread and whole wheat bread is identical - 71. This means that they both get absorbed and transformed into glucose at the same high rate. Therefore they are both processed and produced nearly identically.

@@TimMartinMDAbilene I don’t have a NYT subscription. Please send a PMID if you have one. Not interested in sensational newspaper articles.

@@TimMartinMDAbilene there is more to health than just glycemic response you know…

How much honey and how much other added sugar are you eating and drinking in your day?

1 teaspoon of honey and a bit of almond creamer after that just water until about 15 hours from my last meal

That’s not very nice. Is there a specific question you have?

This is a recipe for health success!

Thank you for highlighting this concept! www.bordendairy.com/product/dutch-chocolate-milk/ This link shows the ingredients in Borden chocolate milk. You are correct that it has 9 grams of protein, a little more than an egg and less than half the protein of a typical scoop of recovery portein powder, or nearly any low sugar ready to drink protein source. I agree with the healthy dairy fats and electrolytes, but there are countless ways to get those without the sugar. Amino acids are simply another way of saying protein. The problem IS the sugar. For starters its not the natural carbohydrate, its added sugar. Secondly, this amount represents all of the sugar allowed for women or 3/4 of the daily sugar allowed for men. So in my opinion, this is not a great choice for nutrition. Heres something protein and chocolate I do recommend fairlife.com/chocolate-protein-shake/

Thank you! Plain shirts are boring, I like a bit of color in my day

First of all I want to always be clear I am referring to a nutritional fast and not a religious or ideological fast. Since this is nutritional fasting, we don't follow the same "rules". The biggest and I believe most important effect on the body of fasting is reducing the amount of raw material (food) that the body has to deal with. Our body is excellent at managing low resources in the short term (hours to days). So practicing giving ourselves less food regularly and consistently it of great benefit. I am not talking about chronic starvation. I'm talking about skipping meals or eating only a very small portion. Also consider that to "break a fast" simply means the food we eat when we do eat. If rice is the main carbohydrate available, then pair it with equal amounts of vegetable and some protein. If your soup is boring to you, and not filling, then find a way to make it interesting and more hearty, without loading it up with sugar and highly processd carbs; usually by adding more or other spices, veggies and protein.

I would never try to convince anyone out of their deeply held conviction. Also, the whole reason the human body has a detox system (liver, kidneys, etc) is to handle all the toxins that occur in nature. Also, a large number of water molecules that we consume, and which fall from the sky, have been produced in a human made industrial setting. All molecules are chemicals Many natural chemicals are poisonous Many human made chemicals are not poisonous I wish it were simpler than that, but it's not.

I have many patients who report symptoms and side effects from aspartame. I always believe them and recommend they avoid. And, there are many natural ingredients that give people symptoms. That doesn't make that ingredient bad for everyone. I'm not saying aspartame is a health food. But for many people it is a much healthier alternative for a sweetener than sugar and fructose. Aspartame is 2 amino acids that you consume from other foods every day.

everything is bad in excess but yes the way you're body takes those is dodgy but cane sugar is fine in moderation

The body needs glucose for energy production. It can be confusing for medical professionals to refer to "blood sugar". That is not at all the same chemical as the types of sugar you see on a food label, unless it specifies glucose. You are correct about processed sugars. unfortunately, most people do not know how to tell the difference and food companies make it difficult to impossible to know. Also, our bodies can produce glucose from almost all carbs except fructose and fiber, as well as from most amino acids, so no real need to eat a bunch of processed carbs, either.

I wouldn't know about the lobbyist activities, I don't keep up with that. I'm more interested in definitive scientific findings, which is what I'm presenting. I'm okay with all skeptical thinking; I have a pretty good dose of it myself. And it's also possible to disbelieve everything, which is not a logical position to hold. If you don't believe in sugar or artificial sweetner information, then you are welcome to avoid them both. I believe strongly in the health value of truly natural foods as well!

​@TimMartinMDAbilene why go for sugar or artificial sweeteners when things like maple, honey, stevia, monk fruit, organic cane sugar, xylitol, malitol etc... exist and are all shown to be better on the body, moderation is key and anyone saying otherwise should be ignored.

@@TimMartinMDAbilene my guy cane sugar is natural and you admitting you have done 0 research after claiming it was the sugar lobbyist that were lying is hilarious, we already know artificial sweeteners can cause kidney failure and such they have a purpose in moderation like for people with diabetes but in excess both are bad there is 0 reason a healthy person should avoid sugar for artificial sweeteners

There are other sweeteners out there. Have you tried monk fruit extract? It has an aftertaste if you know what to look for but it's subtle and not unpleasant imo

No it's not lol

You get regular sugar from fruits, vegetables, and carbs. You don’t need to supplement sugar by drinking a mocha frappe add spoonfuls of sugar to your morning oatmeal😑

Enjoy your elevated A1C levels

What? You’re lost man if you think what he’s saying is wrong.

Sugar in moderation is better than artificial sweeteners, heavy sugar usage is worse than artificial sweeteners.

@@asomnss What do you mean by better? Better is such a subjective term. For me personally better means less calories so artificial sweeteners are better because many of them are 0 calories. What does better mean to you?

@darkcircle899 I think that getting organ failiure, toxic levels of compounds that your body can't process, strokes and alzheimers are all big negatives for artificial sweeteners as for sugar you see obesity, behavioral changes, diabetes and tooth decay as big issues, both are bad, both cause issues in certain quantities, I'll stick to sugar and alcohol sugars since my body was at least designed to break it down and since I have a history of alzheimers and dementia in my family but moderation is key regardless. Do your research though, calories are not everything, don't take my word for it, read up, your health is worth it.

No, it’s not. And it’s not banned in Europe, it’s just called something else. In fact, Europe has more approved food colorings than we do in the US. We have (I think) 6 banned in Europe, whereas Europes has 16!!!! that are banned here.

@@AndyKicklighter That's interesting. I might want to take a look at the banned colourants