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Frankly I think this is a cultural issue around the concept of reviews as much as it is that primarily competitive games aren't good review mateial. There is no such thing as an objective review, or a timeless review, even if the thing you're reviewing is like... Okami or something. If you couldn't care less about the game's aesthetics you're not gonna be wowed by what is objectively its strongest part, and whether you're comparing it to the PS2 or the PS4 library is also going to change your outlook a lot. This isn't an issue per se, it's just the way things are. The problem is that some people disregard this and treat reviews as objective pillars of objective quality. Both reviewers and consumers need to get this right. Reviews are inherently opinion pieces, should be framed as that, and should be treated as that, even if there's some number out of 10, or 100, or whatever scale they're using nowadays at the end.

i cant believe leon stopped playing the cool british character to play the cringe british character

you should advertise this channel with a community post on your main channel or something, definitely still enjoy these kinds of videos a lot also stop using mkwii music

As someone that absolutely LOVES Axl but has never really found another Zoner that feels anything like he does (and as a result has avoided the fate of being labelled "The Zoner Player") I think you explained really really well the difference between him and the rest of the archetype that makes him specifically so compelling and active to play. He feels to me like a longer range extrapolation of the mid range bullies and "Honest Mids" characters I tend to gravitate towards (Orie, Katalina, Hakumen, Xrd Sin, etc) where you are using the threat of your buttons to force people into specific routes that you can then react to and punish them for. Maybe one day I'll try applying that mindset to other zoners though, see if I have a similar experience you did going the other direction.

i have two questions for anyone watching who can give me any input whatsoever: - is it worth it to learn xrd as a completely new player in 2024? - how the hell do i start learning venom from scratch? there's too much information/resources online and idk where to start

7:23 LMAO

yaaay! more slop! yum yum!

anyone know the music in the latter half of the video?

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Honestly I feel like one of the biggest issues with the combo trials (and broadly speaking - a lot of fighting game tutorials) is what you mention at 1:46 - there's too much info tossed at the new player with no explanation of what is used when. "Here's a tutorial list the size of the moon, have fun!" Even if the tutorials are good, the new player doesn't know how much of it is required, how much of it is optional, and what is entirely ignorable up to a certain level of play.

I always tell myself and other new people to use Blitz, because it's funny

I'll have to give Xrd a try. I was JUST trying out Strive again after bouncing off it hard at launch and I can't believe how awful their half-baked combo trials system is. It's great to have dustloop as an option but something in game displaying inputs as ⬇↘➡ instead of 236 is always easier for me to follow. Also happy 3-ish weeks of entirely bot-free TF2! It's a miracle!

casual tf2 game confirm into 1000 hours of xrd rev 2 is insane

okay I know my last comment was a joke, but like fully serious tf2 is why I picked up GG and started actually looking into fighting games seriously for the first time. Some random on an Uncletopia server was talking about GGST and recommended it to me a week back. I picked it up on the sale, and then found your videos 3-4 days ago. so... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

This is weird to me since BB Central Fiction (great game btw) has all around pretty good combo trials from what I’ve experienced. Many of the basic routes are buttons away from optimal by trials 7-10, and give you answers to common situations. The advanced ones a great too, often optimal, stupid hard for some characters. Along with the built in glossary and the brief character explanations, I think Blazblue can be learned entirely self-contained which is sick. Buy BBCF :>

Do a video on raven funny British man

Mentioning dustloop: I actually did a course about online archiving at university (I studied history). We had to archive a website we thought had historical value. I chose dustloop.

Under night combo trials have a similar sense in lack of direction, specifically in its early trials. While the later “veteran” trials are pulled from the community and often have setup built into the last part of the combo, a beginner isn’t going to learn the execution heavy stuff. Some of the basic trials also haven’t been updated since the 2016(?) [st] release of the game, making them better or worse than what they originally were.

someone saw evo strive and got surprised by the patch notes.

Instructions unclear: I have been trapped on pl_upward for 6 hours.

Combo trials are a real mixed bag and hardly ever give starting players the tools to just learn how to consistently get decent damage off of a hit confirm - which is really one of the key motivating factors that gets them to stick with the game. That said, while the combos themselves might be bad, the execution skills that one gains from beating them can still be useful. For example, in Skullgirls: the combo trials are also far from optimal and generally harder than they need to be, but in a game where adjusting one's combos on the fly to adapt to the opponent's undizzy bar and potential metered reversals, or continuing a combo after tagging out your point character are all vital high-level skills, learning the intuitive ways that different moves CAN combo into each other is very useful when one starts building their own combos - either in the training room or even mid-match (once they've internalised those execution basics). I do think that devs should normalise adding curated community BnBs to the game with patches tho. Custom combo trials can potentially help newbies without them having to bring up a wiki, but they also have the problem of being hard to parse as 'actually useful' or just 'showy and hard'.

This is one of the greatest mysteries of fighting games for me. You can increase the player's strength several times simply by explaining that all the player needs to do at the beginning is to focus on 2-3 combos in neutral and a few situational ones a little later; pokes; AA; jump-ins. That's all. 20 minutes to explain to anyone all of this. The number of fighting games that do this is ZERO. But - mountains of junk, very difficult for beginners and even for players with experience confirms, some completely stoned specifics that will never exist in gameplan - anything but what is rly necessary. Yes, kilometers of detailed text like UNI or MBTL will be very useful later, but it will be later. Why the developers literally hide the most important and simplest BNB is beyond my understanding

Change channel name to Xrd Missionary.

...the advanced combo trials fix the problems you mentioned.

KLO MENTIONED

3:13 holy shit my name is in the video lmao we take those

1:48 In DBFZ, they technically have 10 combo trials per character, but around 7 of them are literally just showing system mechanics. They're all really short and it feels less like you're learning ten hard combos per character and more like 10 short combos that force you to learn one new property each. The game's not showing you a recipe, the game is showing you some of the ingredients, because the combo system is pretty free-flowing and the challenge comes from optimization. I think that's smart, because a beginner player might not touch any of the other tutorials, and the info they do give is just enough to provoke thought in a casual player's mind while not making them feel overwhelmed or inadequate. Plus, it also pushes new players to look towards what combos other players have come up with, and those are always going to be better and longer. The difference in quality between combos from the combo trials and the combos most opponents will try and use on you is stark enough to give even the dumbest of players the thought of looking up combos on youtube or Dustloop.

who wanna play xrd

The BDC combo trial, is just teaching you that you can BDC into any special, which is a very useful tool as you can do mappa or bite or super. If you learn BDC you make mu's so much easier. difference between Cancelers and non-BDC slayer Is heaven and earth Dandy™

I don't think counterhit combos need to be in most games trials. once you are comfortable enough to recognize during a game you got a counter hit and can do something different I don't think you're leaning on the games Bnbs for assistence. But in a game wide sense I guess its good to let the player know "hey moves can lead to different things depending on when you hit the other guy"

Xrd content 2024 i love you

after TRYING to pick up dbfz and playing the trials i can attest, THIS SHIT SUCKS OMG seriously the average combo is like 80% off a medium starter and the trials don't include one that does 50. The ingame guides barely even explain assists and the trials i played didn't involve them. (they are the core mechanic of that game)

been really really enjoying these return to form leon massey videos its so comfy

The Combo trials are so good I broke my fight stick doing I-NO's advance combos. Granted it was an older model.

I will never forget the time where I was looking for Bedman corner throw combos that end with two Seals and a knockdown, and I was stuck on Sol since I knew it was possible, but couldn't find the solution for it. I think I searched for like 4 hours without success. The unique version of that double Seal combo 𝘫𝘶𝘴𝘵 𝘴𝘰 𝘩𝘢𝘱𝘱𝘦𝘯𝘦𝘥 𝘵𝘰 𝘣𝘦 𝘪𝘯 𝘰𝘯𝘦 𝘰𝘧 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘴𝘦 𝘨𝘰𝘥 𝘥𝘢𝘮𝘯 𝘵𝘳𝘪𝘢𝘭𝘴.

In the training mode, straight up comboin it, and by it, my trial

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3:49 Slayer player here. It kinda is honestly, it's his only real defensive option with much reliability, so I'd say it fits. Maybe it would be a little better to put it in Advanced 1 or something since the input is pretty tricky, but I'd say it's pretty important to learn, especially since true slayer players DO not block, we either bdc or we get smacked in the face, hoo rah

But what about Demoknight's combo trials?

It is I, the Fighting Gameist.

I really think that with xrd and blazeblu arcsys whent with harder jank "cool" combos over actual bnbs, the comparison for starter combos on dustoop and easy combo trials are night and day

the real combo is randomly activating gold ik and damaging the opponent mentally

guilty gear has some of the most... verbose? combos. like why do they give you combos that are both difficult, character specific, and do low damage/don't lead to knockdown when there is a much simpler bnb that achieve all of this? I play sol and while xrd wasnt that bad strive was TERRIBLE with its combo trials and missions.

Shoutouts to Melty Blood for having j.BC j.BC air throw as a near universal serviceable combo structure. Saved my ass many a time.

hey what did you have to sacrifice to get orcane venom and heihachi in one weekend and how can i use that power to get silksong

im the type of person who skips the routes and goes straight to the strategy page before coming back to learn routes i like oki a lot

6:03 was not expecting the slime reference, nice surprise

Dat Mission Mode doe 👀

Yeah, this is pretty much why I instantly gravitated to Ky and Raven back when I was getting into GG from BB/DBFZ. Their combo trials make sense, they mostly go into an advantageous situation I can wrap my head around, and both use projectile YRC in the most obvious ways.