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Meme probleme sur ma 2019 hier

It took me 5 seconds to figure out that moving the bike/wheel would help it shift. Took you. 5?

I have had this put me on the side of the road a couple of times while using Sport mode. Turn the key off then back on, while it is still clicking roll the bike backwards and it shifted back into neutral, back on the road in 2 minutes the last time.

Your supposed to move the bike forward so I can go in gear because the gears get stuck

Ду маю если его попробовать катить вперед во время щелчков -то передачи сразу скинуться на нейтраль.

For me, Stuck in 1st gear. Turn off, turn on and roll back until click is heard. In N, back to normal. Thanks great vid!

I see many comments about RCM but I didn’t see it in this video. Did I miss something?

What was that clicking noise?

Here a video of the cleaning on a AT 1000 : czcams.com/video/UVm02zxed3I/video.html

DDNDN

Next time try rocking the bike front and back. You get this too on manual bikes. It helps to move the bike so the shifter can shift down.

Yes This guy is correct. how to get going an how to fix. I had this intermittent problems for months on my first gen 2016 CRF-1000 Africa Twin and then fixed it. , It was identified as the Shift Control Motor or Ratio control motor. It is located on the left side just below the tool kit holder. It is a black cylinder of about 3" (7cm) in diameter with a black nipple sticking out about 1cm (1/2") in diameter. Again on the left side of the bike below where your knee placement is. If you get stuck on the roadside, give the black nipple on the motor a good sharp tap or two with a small hammer or a tool from your tool kit, and the bike should start right up. It simply jolts the motor to help seat the brushes on the arbor. Do this immediately after you turn on the key and you hear a clicking sound coming from the right side of the bike. Regardless of what gear you are stuck in or the flashing (---) symbol, it should shift back into Neutral N and you are good to go. also putting the bike on the center stand and rotating the wheel back and forth helps it, if your first attempt fails. If this does work, then you have also identified the problem. The problem is that this electric motor, like many electric motors, build up carbon on the arbor and prevent the brushes making a good contact with the arbor. for a permanent fix The unit is very easy to remove from the bike with 2 screws on the cover plate and 3 screws on the motor, all pretty easy to get at with the supplied allen keys. remove the wiring harness plug first located under the first cover you remove. Also very easy. take the motor apart on your bench or desk. only two screws. And pull the center of the motor out of the casing against its magnetic force. Clean the arbor with 400 grit emmery cloth sand paper, until all the black built up carbon on the Arbor is basically gone. then clean all the dust and grit away before re assembly. You can even spray and wipe it down with WD40. Also carefully clean the brushes with the same sand paper or a fine file, but not too much.They are very delicate and made primarily of graphite. They will re seat themselves in any case. It only takes about 30 min to do this and 15 min to take in and out of the bike. Take careful note of where the rubber washer goes and how the motor comes apart. Clean all the black carbon out of the motor cylinder. Grease the shaft end that goes back into the casing and seats in the nipple housing. I did this and it now shifts as good as new. when putting the motor back in the bike, oil the o-ring and carefully wriggle the motor back in position until the metal of the motor makes good contact with the metal of the engine. Make sure it is seated properly before tightening down the screws or you will pinch and damage the O-ring and it wont seal and will be off camber with the spline shaft. you can't buy parts for this motor like bruches, so if they are damaged beyond repair, the Shitf Control Motor part no, is 31300-MJP-G81 priced at about AU$450.00. a BLABBC states. Here is a link on how to service the Control morot czcams.com/video/wqZRok8Puag/video.html

Nice to know there is an easy fix for it. My dct was doing this in second gear. Yet I have not encountered this malfunction after changing the battery

Just had this happen to me. There is a video on CZcams that shows how to clean ratio motor. 10,000 more miles with no problems. Aliexpress has the motor for $60 USD. Honda wants $250!

You my friend, are a lifesaver! I had my bike in the shop at a certified Honda Dealer for 4 months. I literally just picked it up this past Saturday. That dealership wanted to change the wiring harness and they had already changed the oil pressure sensor, oil filer, oil, R&R clutch 2 EOP sensor to the tune of $555.53, which did absolutely nothing. They claimed to have contacted the main Honda tech support in which Honda tech support recommended that they change the wiring harness, which would've run me another $1405.84(not including labor). I told the dealer I was going to pick the bike up and explore other options, I'm thankful I did. So yesterday, I came across your video and thought I'd give it a shot and it worked!!!!!! I removed the RCM and cleaned it with electrical cleaner and reinstalled it and then drove the bike for 2 straight hours in 105° heat, totaling 60 miles of stop and go. The bike rode like new, no issue at all. Previously, it would only go about 30 to 40 minutes before it would fail and start operating erratically. It would jump out of gear into a false neutral, with zero throttle, sometimes stall, wouldn't restart until I let it sit for several minutes, etc. When I rode it yesterday, none of that happened for 2 solid hours for the first time since April. Thank you so much for your video Sir. You helped me tremendously!

YEAHHHHHHHHHH !!!!!

same happened to my nc750x. outside was about 35 C and i drove like 6 hours under the sun. it stucked on 6th gear, i could down to 2th gear by closing and opening engine again and again but needed to wait like half hour for from 2th to N. I always loved DCT but i was thinking to change it with manuel in the rest of the road.

happened to my 2016 a few days ago, stuck on 4th. while on the center stand i turned the rear wheel forward and back. heard clicking sound and got it to go to Neutral. a day later, this time was stuck on 6th. pushed the bike and went back to Neutral. yesterday, it did it again. not taking any more chances and taking it to the dealer tomorrow.

Its the fastest 45 minutes I’ve ever seen 😂 hope your bike is better now.

Shift pin needs replacement

Guys if thats happend try one thing do just sit on the bike do 3-4 steps to move the bike and will go to the N key need to be on and you need to hear that click noise

I have this problem very often now in the summer when is constantly above 30°C .. When Im driving sometimes suddenly the number which shows which gear is will dissappear and will not change modes or gears while riding. In my case i think is getting stuck in 3rd gear. However when this happens I pull on the side of the road then im stopping the engine for 1 second and when I turn the ignition back on I just reverse few inches while its making this clicking noise and its back to normal.

My dct gets stuck when hot? After 5 mins it’s fine again? Any ideas???

Had the same problem today. Gear stays in 6th. It happened out of the blue in Germany not hot (Africa Twin 2016 49.000 km just serviced including filters of gearbox). Friend of mine had it too. Its seems this problem is not a single case.

Same happend on my honda x adv 750 (2018) twice. Hot weather , 33C (Czech), gear start blinking "-" symbol, motor played crazy, slowed down , no possible to shift gear or something, then waiting cca. 45 min in shadow, then switching with power button (big red one on right side), then it was able to run but with "motor" symbol on. On second time, after cooling down it was needed to move the bike to manually rotate DCT sevo to better position, then bike was willing to strart and run, with motor"sign" on. Advice to the future , newer buy DCT from honda again. I was on my 700km trip, it happened on 200km, I must went back. Second time, it happend after 100km, then I turned back. There is some recalling actin for my bike for free for this issue on "www.honda.cz/motorcycles/owners/recalls-and-updates.html", put your VIN in there, "Recall: ecu failure xadv". Hope it will help. But I am thinking that it wont. So I will test honda products on my cost. Honda, fu..ck you!!!

THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You saved me 900 Eur..had the same issue..opened the Ration Control Motor, cleaned it and everything works perfekt now!!!! Greetings from Germany.

Shame on Honda

I try to imagine this fail, being alone in the middle of the desert.

I heard that doing a DCT reset will fix this problem. Anything with a microchip can be "reset to manufacturer specifications". If this doesn't work then contact the dealer. DCT RESET Start the engine. Select N. Stop the engine. While pressing D, switch the ignition on, wait until the yellow 'engine' symbol goes out on the dash, then release D. Press in fast sequence: DDNDN. On the dash, the letters D and S should appear together. Restart engine, allow it to idle.

Thank you very much ,, blabbc ,, for the tip! Looks like you saved me 450 euros. The symptoms were the same for me. (DCT stalled only in very warm condition, not in cold) There were several other fault codes in the fault log that contained the electric motor. After attempting the faults, again producing the symptoms described, only an electric motor fault was visible. Honda Service disassembled the e-engine, had some carbon brush debris, and cleaned it up. There is also a plain bearing that has been re-greased with heat resistant grease. (the e-engine itself was in perfect condition, the CRF1000 is 52,000km) Today it was hot enough and the malfunction was completely gone !! Thanks to your comment, I was able to get to the end in just 4 days, everything works fine :-) The whole repair including removal and installation is one hour max. Thanks again :-)

man - in this situation you must moving a bike a little bit to make geas move a litlle - it can stuck in gear simmilar in manual - and it is impossible to change gear till you move bike a little back and forward and then try to chance gears manually. BTW DCT is a nice gearbox- i love mine in NC 700 - make 50000 km with DCT .

Azıcık it küheylanı kendine gelir

Tu a roulé avec le moteur arrete. J'ai eu la même chose

Don’t buy a DCT ,lesson learned

Ok !!!! If this happens to anyone, rock the bike while the ignition is on... that's it. DONE... it just cant mesh the gears .

My bike wil not leave Natural

hi. @blabbc when you switched on the ignition, what else did you do as in the video i can hear a clicking sound, were you pressing the start button?

Hello today I had the same problem on mi 2016 ÁfricaTwin you could send me the photo to my email. rafernandez0111@hotmail.com thanks!

Same problem in july after 24000 km.. yes the Problem is the electric motor 31300-mpj-g81 dct... i change with a new all ok.. 😉

I've been researching Honda DCT owners' problems. All of them seem to a little different; clutch bolt needs tightened, sensor misaligned, battery voltage off a little, too much oil, ratio control motor, not properly warmed up, left handed rider, cloudy day, etc. DCT is wonderfully designed, but its complexity seems to be undermining reliability.

So whats the update on this?

UPDATE; Problem solved: a small piece in the "Ratio Control Motor" was stuck (31300-MJP-G81). Its the black "tube" on the left side outstanding of the motor. The dealer fixed it by disassembling it without ordering a new piece (which would cost around 500€). So if you have the same issue, it is most likely this part. No electronic issue, no dct-reset or whatsoever. Good luck

I've had mine in 48deg. C temps in the top end of Australia with zero problems....must be just a bad sensor or similar.... they've been very reliable so.... 87,963km's on mine. can you post an update after the dealer fix's it?

You must move the bike after start

adrian this is amazing :D

COOL :)