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Patrick Henry & The Civil War that Never Was I 2 Complicated 4 History I Podcast
Description:
Dr. Lynn Price Robbins and Isaac S. Loftus are joined by Dr. John A. Ragosta to discuss the transition of Patrick Henry from Revolutionary Firebrand to Federalist candidate. Did the hyperpartisanship of the 1790s fuel this apparent switch? And did it also prevent the newly created United States from plunging into a civil war?
Please support this podcast by checking out our patreon:
www.patreon.com/primarysourcemedia
TRANSCRIPT: coming soon
Note: The thoughts, views, opinions, and intellectual property expressed in this podcast do not necessarily reflect those of the Naval History and Heritage Command, the Department of the Navy, or the Department of Defense
OUTLINE:
0:00 - Introduction
0:57 - How Close We Were to a Civil War in the 1790s
3:03 - The Instability and Conflict in the Early U.S.
5:45 - Who is Patrick Henry
10:00 - Henry as an Anti-Federalist
11:56 - British Monarchy versus Elected U.S. Federal Government
16:15 - Response to “Federalist” Henry
20:07 - Virgnians vs Virgnians
23:48 - Thomas Jefferson in Charge
25:08 - Clarifying the Timeline
27:40 - What Stops a Civil War?
30:17 - Union Above All Else
32:07 - Figuring it Out Without George Washington
35:26 - Thomas Jefferson vs Patrick Henry
43:32 - Lynn’s Theory on Why Thomas Jefferson hated Patrick Henry
46:48 - Political Policy Versus Political Rhetoric
52:23 - Where Would We Be if Henry Had Lived?
53:57 - The Importance of Understanding Context in Our Current System
57:02 - Knowing Your History Makes You a Better Citizen
1:00:25 - Where You Can Find John
EPISODE LINKS:.
Dr. Ragosta’s Upcoming Talks - www.johnaragosta.com/presentations
For The People, For The Country: Patrick Henry’s Final Political Battle - www.upress.virginia.edu/title/5846/
Patrick Henry’s Scotchtown - preservationvirginia.org/historic-sites/patrick-henrys-scotchtown/
Alien and Sedition Acts - www.archives.gov/milestone-documents/alien-and-sedition-acts#:~:text=Passed%20in%20preparation%20for%20an,brink%20of%20war%20with%20France.
Democratic-Republican Party - www.britannica.com/topic/Democratic-Republican-Party
Federalist Party - www.britannica.com/topic/Federalist-Party
Virginia and Kentucky Resolutions - www.britannica.com/event/Virginia-and-Kentucky-Resolutions
Conway Cabal - www.worldhistory.org/Conway_Cabal/
Anti-Federalists - www.britannica.com/topic/Anti-Federalists
Nullification Crisis - www.britannica.com/topic/Nullification-Crisis
The Supremacy Clause - constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/artVI-C2-1/ALDE_00013395/
John Marshall - www.britannica.com/biography/John-Marshall
Thomas Jefferson’s First Inaugural Address - avalon.law.yale.edu/19th_century/jefinau1.asp
Missouri Compromise - www.archives.gov/milestone-documents/missouri-compromise
George Washington to Patrick Henry, January 15, 1799 - founders.archives.gov/documents/Washington/06-03-02-0225
John Randolph of Roanoke - www.britannica.com/biography/John-Randolph-American-politician
Thomas Jefferson to James Madison, December 8, 1784 - founders.archives.gov/documents/Madison/01-08-02-0095
Governor Jefferson avoids British capture - www.monticello.org/research-education/thomas-jefferson-encyclopedia/jack-jouetts-ride/
Gerrymandering - www.britannica.com/topic/gerrymandering
PODCAST INFO:
Podcast website: 2c4hpod.com
Apple Podcasts: podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/2-complicated-4-history/id1664183536
Spotify: open.spotify.com/show/3svQpZfxhVQnYJMESpp842?si=514780ada34d4aab
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Komentáře

  • @billstevens9190
    @billstevens9190 Před 3 dny

    Biden doesn't want to win that's why he's doing nothing good. He doesn't what a woman take his place. We love Kamala. But there are people that don't want a woman in office.

  • @TheMostHighDaughter180

    Wow! Never knew about this place until today, 6/20/24, Tariq Nasheed mentioned in one of his interview on CZcams!

    • @primarysourcemedia
      @primarysourcemedia Před 8 dny

      Thank you for checking out the interview. It’s a fascinating place. Couldn’t recommend Dr. Nevius’ book enough

    • @knowthyself6335
      @knowthyself6335 Před 6 dny

      I herd of this too from him. He was on the Holding Court Podcast.

  • @LaJuana558
    @LaJuana558 Před 9 dny

    I can’t stop laughing! Never expected to tune in to 12 year old Ben Franklin and his apparent blood brother Jordan tonight! 😂🔥😂🔥😂

  • @upgrade1015
    @upgrade1015 Před 10 dny

    ✊🏾🇺🇸As a gay black man who has served in the military , I can clearly say , It’s no longer about rights but recruitment and socialist ideology propaganda tool. I’m tired of being used as a pawn. My sexual identity does not define me. Nobody cares what hole I prefer nor do I care to share it..

  • @isaacsloftus
    @isaacsloftus Před 10 dny

    lol Reddit = the library of Alexandria

  • @henryplantagenet219
    @henryplantagenet219 Před 11 dny

    Today I received my signed copy of the book. I am so happy to read through the stories, sending was really rather quick.

  • @robbymyrick
    @robbymyrick Před 14 dny

    Again, Victoria you have shone your beautiful light so brightly to our world. LOVE all your work! Making #JonesCountyMS proud :)

    • @primarysourcemedia
      @primarysourcemedia Před 14 dny

      Thank you for checking out the interview! We're huge fans of Victoria as well

  • @jasonbecker4049
    @jasonbecker4049 Před 19 dny

    It took many years and loved ones from me but 8 years of sobriety later i believe its behind me now.

  • @DJX435
    @DJX435 Před 19 dny

    Gin was my first drink, was also my last. I look in awe at those who consume in moderation

    • @primarysourcemedia
      @primarysourcemedia Před 19 dny

      Congratulations on your sobriety - hoping for many years to come! Alcohol has always been and will always be a life ruining addition to some.

  • @nancyt.7134
    @nancyt.7134 Před 20 dny

    You need to look into what is going on with your audio. My laptop volume is maxxed, and the CZcams volume is maxxed, and it is quite hard to hear you. I'm at home with the window open, birds chirping, the occasional car...it isn't due to ambient noise around me causing problems, and it isn't a problem with any other video on CZcams that I've played today.

  • @paullewis2413
    @paullewis2413 Před 23 dny

    Paul Cooper is a hero of mine. As someone like myself who has been into history since my early teens, his podcasts are a revelation. There’s so much trash on YT regarding historical events, Paul’s approach joins the relatively few that take a serious and knowledgable approach while never for a moment being boring or overtly academic. Brilliant!

    • @primarysourcemedia
      @primarysourcemedia Před 22 dny

      His work is a wonderful blend of informative and entertaining. Happy you were able to check out the interview! If you have ever have suggestions on other hosts or authors we should have as guests - our discord is open for everyone who joins our free Patreon tier. Would love to have you!

  • @morbidcandii
    @morbidcandii Před 23 dny

    I drank some gin for the first time last year made me sick af😩

  • @jacaliber
    @jacaliber Před 27 dny

    @ 59:31 I have an ancestor James Rogers who participated in the First Seminole War with Andrew Jackson. Later he arrived to Texas became ranger fighting Comanche there. It fascinating you mention the Seminole migration west and South in Mexico. It just so happens James Rogers brother-in-law General Edward Burleson Sr, an uncle of mine, who was also a settler, had sons that participated in the Callahan filibustering expedition into Mexico in 1855, ostensibly to attack Indians but this was really a slave-catching expedition. Anyways there was running battle against the Seminoles that were living there in Mexico. The Texans were outnumbered so they torched the bordering town of Piedras Negras to extract themselves from defeat and to secure their crossing the Rio Grande. The Seminoles at this time were like this buffer that augmented Mexican forces against not only the Comanche threat but Texans as well. I thought that was neat. Hearing about their history in Florida but also putting context to the history of Texas and Mexico and my genealogy.

    • @primarysourcemedia
      @primarysourcemedia Před 27 dny

      Very cool. Thank you for sharing your family history

    • @jacaliber
      @jacaliber Před 26 dny

      @@primarysourcemedia en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wild_Cat_(Seminole)

  • @LaJuana558
    @LaJuana558 Před měsícem

    Fun and as a native Floridian, interesting listen too! Worth the price of admission to to see his reaction to Lynn being vegan! Unlike your guest, I grew up in Florida in the 50’s and 60’s and with the changes I’ve seen, have no desire to ever return there. 😂. Let’s go have a Beyond Burger Lynn!

    • @primarysourcemedia
      @primarysourcemedia Před měsícem

      He is a man enamored by the Florida sunshine. I can’t relate but I appreciate his passion

    • @LaJuana558
      @LaJuana558 Před měsícem

      @@primarysourcemedia He would have really loved Florida back in the day BD. (Before Disney) It was a different world. I drove from Mulberry to Orlando when I was a junior in high school to take a college entrance test. Alone. I’d hope no parent would allow their 16 year old to do such a thing today. A totally different world. The interview brought back memories of things I did learn in school way back then but as with most history taught in schools, a far cry from the whole story.

  • @user-bl8bd3no3i
    @user-bl8bd3no3i Před měsícem

    New México? Texas etc😮

  • @marcocatano554
    @marcocatano554 Před měsícem

    For all Dr. Cooper's talents, his voice is simply magnificent for the medium, fills me with envy! On a more serious note, I simply admire his work, great interview.

  • @charlesbryant870
    @charlesbryant870 Před měsícem

    I have my signed copy. Amazing work that has filled many hours of my life. The Aztec saga remains my favorite. Thank you, Paul Cooper.

  • @user-dp5yf9fn9u
    @user-dp5yf9fn9u Před měsícem

    Time for you guys to treat yourselves to the alternative history research by the Rising Tide Foundation, and Canadian Patriot Matt Ehret and his wife, Cynthia Chung. After enlightening myself to the influence of the British Empire on American and Canadian history ..... the class struggle in The Free State of Jones absolutely made sense to me. Richard Poe and Sean Stone are also doing incredible research on the "hidden hand" of British Imperialism throughout our American history; and the histories of France, Russia, Germany, etc. It has been the equivalent to having an epiphany .... for me.

  • @user-bn7bk5mw4s
    @user-bn7bk5mw4s Před měsícem

    Oh God I'm sorry. I realize you meant their ages. 29 and 19. Not 1929 the year. I'm just jaded from hearing mistakes like that so often. My bad. Would love to read your book

  • @user-bn7bk5mw4s
    @user-bn7bk5mw4s Před měsícem

    1929??? More like 1729 please get the century right. TOO MANY HISTORICAL TALKS DO THIS OVER AND OVER

  • @user-bn7bk5mw4s
    @user-bn7bk5mw4s Před měsícem

    I like Abigail but would not have wanted to make her mad😂

  • @rideausheep
    @rideausheep Před měsícem

    One thing that most people have no understanding about is modern agriculture and the revolution in seed breeding that is adapting quickly to environmental changes.

  • @LaJuana558
    @LaJuana558 Před měsícem

    You know I had to come watch this after watching Franklin! 😂. Great video! Thanks!

  • @LaJuana558
    @LaJuana558 Před měsícem

    Quite enjoyable! Thank you!

  • @lawrenceallen8096
    @lawrenceallen8096 Před měsícem

    Why is this complicated? We have on the books STILL, but no longer enforced an 100 year old law that no foreign entity can own over 25% interest in a broadcast medium. The internet is the largest broadcast network on the planet. We have precedent. Kick the CCP out of our internet.

  • @t_green
    @t_green Před měsícem

    Congratulations Paul and Annie!

  • @Geeman002
    @Geeman002 Před měsícem

    Paul Cooper brings history to life in a way I’ve not experienced before. He talks about people, not just the kings and elite, but always the real people who lived and worked within a civilization. His CZcams videos are Oscar worthy.

    • @primarysourcemedia
      @primarysourcemedia Před měsícem

      We’re huge fans of his. Was an absolute pleasure having the opportunity to speak to him for this interview.

  • @LynnPriceRobbins
    @LynnPriceRobbins Před měsícem

    The Lie Detector test determines THAT was a lie! You are NOT the Founding Father! 🤣

  • @srejonnath5230
    @srejonnath5230 Před měsícem

    DANG.. he lived in New Jersey??

  • @RayLee2889
    @RayLee2889 Před měsícem

    We’re back

  • @michaelproctor6122
    @michaelproctor6122 Před měsícem

    I want to see whats behind a door and whats at the bottom of a hole. To know and understand the past is to then be able to understand the present and helps to imagine the future. Great interview. Brian Sewell and Michael Moor were the old guard of historians for me as a youngster now Paul and James Fox are the new guard for me now im much older.

    • @primarysourcemedia
      @primarysourcemedia Před měsícem

      Thank you for listening! It is exciting seeing what the next generation of historians is bringing to the table. What we love about Paul's work is that he is bringing poetry to these stories while keeping it grounded it in the sources. I hard thing to do

  • @Gomgo22
    @Gomgo22 Před měsícem

    Paul Cooper helped me realize that human history is my obsession. In my career in history I will always remember Fall of Civilizations, it will forever be close to my heart. When it comes to telling the stories of the Ancients, Paul Cooper does it right. The artistic approach, and the dramatics of it, is something TV history docs wish they could do. Aztecs part One and Two is are perfect examples. I had to of watched and listened to them around 11 times. Each session I had goosebumps, felt the emotion, and lost myself in the events that occurred. Paul truly places us in the past and humanizes the topic of history, so that, by relating to those in the past, being thrown into their shoes, we can feel strong emotions and associate them to what happened. It really helps with retaining the information. I could say more or even write a whole essay about my love for Fall of Civs, but instead, I will say this to Paul. NEVER make the episodes shorter, I would say, you are doing God's work. ((sorry Mrs. Cooper))

    • @primarysourcemedia
      @primarysourcemedia Před měsícem

      Thank you for listening and for your thoughts! The picture he's able to paint with just audio is remarkable. Very moving without straying from the history. Speaking from personal experience, it's very hard to accomplish.

  • @Johannes_Brahms65
    @Johannes_Brahms65 Před měsícem

    I’m very greatful for the work Paul did to ad images to the podcasts! I am unable to listen without being distracted if there are no images and I “eat” his podcasts!

    • @primarysourcemedia
      @primarysourcemedia Před měsícem

      I usually listen to the audio when it's released but the video versions absolutely make watching more dynamic!

    • @s.williamc.
      @s.williamc. Před měsícem

      Paul is right up there with sir Sir David Attenborough on being amongst the greatest voices and writers to ever narrate documentaries. I want Paul and his epic voice to narrate my eulogy when I shuffle off this mortal coil. It could be one of the episodes of his podcast. He could talk about the decline and fall of S.William. C. He would narrate how it might have felt when my world fell apart and my marriage of over two decades was reduced into smoldering heaps of soot and ash. About how even after the Pyrrhic victory of being awarded alimony, I was still left forlorn, dazed and squatting in the desolate ruins of my shattered dreams. Then he could end the episode with the amazing voice actress who read the poem “Carthage” at the end of episode 17, reading a poem about how it felt when my heart imploded and I knew my world had come to an end. The poem would start with “There once was and old, broken man from Nantucket....”

  • @s.williamc.
    @s.williamc. Před měsícem

    This is great. Thank you so much! I ordered my book from the UK I can’t wait until July. I’ve watched and listened to every episode multiple times. Paul’s podcast is a treasure, there are so many lessons to learn from his research.

    • @primarysourcemedia
      @primarysourcemedia Před měsícem

      We’re huge fans of his podcast as well. Glad you enjoyed the interview. Was great to get to know the man behind it all

  • @CryHavocWarGaming
    @CryHavocWarGaming Před měsícem

    great episode, and good to see two of my good friends together

  • @CryHavocWarGaming
    @CryHavocWarGaming Před měsícem

    Very enjoyable

  • @NeTxGrl
    @NeTxGrl Před měsícem

    There were documents discovered in the 20th century that showed Peggy played a central role.

  • @jeffgraham605
    @jeffgraham605 Před měsícem

    Ditto Rush Limbaugh Ditto

  • @martijn9568
    @martijn9568 Před měsícem

    I've barely started and Paul immediatly starts one of those well placed tangents, as he often does in his podcast. In this case on the Magnolia. Paul is really great at telling a story, partically because he introduces us well to the story and the setting it is placed in. Which often is not just a story of human history, but also life and geologic history. Even after introducing the story, he will often refer back to it. Truly making it a part of the story and not just the setting.

    • @primarysourcemedia
      @primarysourcemedia Před měsícem

      I’m not joking. This is spot on. it was intimidating even in the conversation. It took me a while to settle into it - isaac

  • @frankgilligan7768
    @frankgilligan7768 Před měsícem

    Cat is really captivated

  • @elveheim
    @elveheim Před měsícem

    Great interview.

  • @CatherineStultzAustin
    @CatherineStultzAustin Před 2 měsíci

    Wonderful!

  • @LisaaP.T.
    @LisaaP.T. Před 2 měsíci

    Don't say smash Don't say smash Don't say smash Don't say smash Don't say smash Don't say smash Don't say smash Don't say smash Don't say smash Don't say smash Don't say smash Don't say smash Don't say smash Don't say smash Don't say smash Don't say smash Don't say smash Don't say smash Don't say smash Don't say smash Don't say smash

  • @ShinobuFanXoxox
    @ShinobuFanXoxox Před 2 měsíci

    It gives ✨Benjamin Franklin✨

  • @Windy_Dawg
    @Windy_Dawg Před 2 měsíci

    Bro went back in time as far as his hairline

  • @LaJuana558
    @LaJuana558 Před 2 měsíci

    I loved this! I did a road trip to NS in 1999 and found the way the province was set up was fascinating and I thought the divisions of the different European countries within NS was result of natural settlements by various groups to the “new world“. Parts of the province were either English or Scottish or German or French or Irish as I recall. Many residents still had the sound of their country of origin, many decades later. It’s been my favorite Canadian province and I had planned to return in 2020 and you know how that went. Someday maybe… with a trip to PEI thrown in for fun. Thanks for sharing your wisdom, you do make history enjoyable!

    • @primarysourcemedia
      @primarysourcemedia Před 2 měsíci

      thank you so much for sharing your story as well! If you'd like to keep the conversation going both Jim and Lynn are active in our discord server which is available for those who sign up for the free membership to our patreon at patreon.com/primarysourcemedia

    • @Jimambuske
      @Jimambuske Před 2 měsíci

      Thanks very much for tuning in. Really appreciate your comments. We'll be talking about PEI in future episodes!

    • @LaJuana558
      @LaJuana558 Před 2 měsíci

      @@Jimambuske oh good!

  • @textrue9088
    @textrue9088 Před 3 měsíci

    I don't think you know that she was not spying. After all, her letters have been destroyed and if they were innocent they would have hung onto them.

    • @primarysourcemedia
      @primarysourcemedia Před 3 měsíci

      it's a fair question but burning letters was a pretty common practice at the time

    • @textrue9088
      @textrue9088 Před 3 měsíci

      @@primarysourcemedia But only for a specific time range?

    • @primarysourcemedia
      @primarysourcemedia Před 2 měsíci

      that's actually a great question! I can double check with Lynn and check back with an answer! If you've got any more historical questions, we've got a channel for random history questions on our discord which is available to those who join the free tier of our patreon at patreon.com/primarysourcemedia

    • @textrue9088
      @textrue9088 Před 2 měsíci

      @@primarysourcemedia Thanks. Knowing if letters were kept before she met Arnold might be helpful and if the big gap is only during their participation in spying.

  • @alexmartin4772
    @alexmartin4772 Před 3 měsíci

    Cool.

    • @primarysourcemedia
      @primarysourcemedia Před 3 měsíci

      Thanks for watching! We’ve actually migrated this series to its own channel if you’d like to watch more

  • @mariajohnson3775
    @mariajohnson3775 Před 3 měsíci

    Wonderful interview. Please add any book by my Uncle John Joseph Mathews, historian. Many books on Osage History.

    • @primarysourcemedia
      @primarysourcemedia Před 3 měsíci

      We will definitely have to check out his books! Thank you for the recommendation.

    • @isaacsloftus
      @isaacsloftus Před 3 měsíci

      Hey Maria! So cool that he's your uncle. I actually purchased a copy of Sundown while I was prepping for this interview! I haven't gotten a chance to read it yet but I'm very much looking forward to it

  • @archieVGC_Unite
    @archieVGC_Unite Před 3 měsíci

    😂😂😂😂