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I think dotcheron can work well, a lot of AOE to kill the minion and a good damage in single target

check his FF relics bro and you will quickly know why

My relics are all shit, only one with 25+ break effect, i have to grind a lot for her

I already wanted Firefly but the shillling has went way too far. Too much stalling mechanics, enemy hit like a truck on Argenti side using aoe nukes on you every other turn. Its either you break enemies fast or you get stalled and killed. MOC is still the best balanced mode so far honestly and Apocayptic Shadow is the worse balanced gamemode easily. They even screw over Clara since enemy stays broken for longer so she can't get any counters in.

@@kennethyoung7457 Nah this is def a skill issue Superbreak works for a LOT of units. Himeko, Guin, or literally even most people. HTB alone with a competent team can clear one side The other side, acheron team, dot team, another break team, follow up team, quantum... Any limited sustain can sustain both second side second phases, lynx and gal can also sustain both second side phases.

I did it with superbreak (no ruan mei) Guin, and the other side I finished it with three seperate teams: Follow up, Dot, and also did it with himeko hypercarry

​@@Raydr62there are big differences between skill issues and investment issues. Assuming you have a decently invested in it then the new content is relatively easy to do (my Acheron team just auto all cocolia stage). But when you don't have a limited dps, haven't switched into break Meta, or haven't fully built HTB then Argenti one can be annoying to clear. Imo, skill issues are when you have an overly invested unit and still can't clear. When you just simply don't have a correct unit or haven't maxed your unit then it's basically investments issues.

@@danielak1666 Speaking of this I decided to run both sides - one dot and one follow up with no HTB and it worked out well enough to full clear both sides I’ll agree it’s more of an investment issue, but it’s definitely possible without break!

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They make an ABSURD difference haha, like my ff with a not even remotely properly built hmc and just full piece firefly…..hitting well over 400k no sweat at all

Too hard without fu xuan, my lynx can't sustain the cocolia hitting 90 times in sequence

@@LinkyedHSR yeah, im fact I do It full stars with Fu Xuan (mono cuantum) but I hace to retry a lot of times because the Damage IS insane

And many more rewards

Yeah, without ruan mei stage 4 first half is insanely hard

My pulls for her was really unlucky

She is my 4 star boothill

Just to showcase different teams

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welt: nah i'd carry🗿

For moc 12 the dr ratio team is not really good, but the himeko team is insane in second half if you can try

It's really good for him when playing hypercarry, fortunately i get it for acheron but now i can use him as hypercarry some times. I hope that you can get it next time!

What ab welt's signature?

It's not weak, believe me

she's still pretty good lol it's just that she got outclassed

As already said by others, she's not weak, it's just that her potential at low investment has fallen off immensely and gotten harder to use as a result. Yes, she's E0S0 in this video, but she's still being supported by the BEST Hypercarry buffer in the game and the BEST single target debuffer in the game, in a MoC where she can get even more free actions and stack much more attack. And also, this is MoC 11, not 12 mind you. She has not fallen off because of low damage multipliers or bad damage scaling or anything of that sort, it's simply happened because of enemy stat inflation. Her damage is still super insane considering she's the first 5 star promotional character. It's just that now she needs a push, like almost all characters in the game. I'm a sucker for hunt units, I have built all of them. Honestly, I hardly use my Selee nowadays, but it's not because Selee's bad, it's because my Selee's bad. Had to go into 180 full hard pity at the start of the game to get her, and I failed her light cone twice, once on each of her banners. And the final nail in the coffin? I failed pity on Hanabi and my Bronya's still E0S0. Besides, I have the premium single target FUA team and the DoT team and now I'm also going for the break team. So yeah, it's just not that worth it for me to keep using her like for endgame content besides liking her. But, even at low investment, Selee can still be worth using. It depends on whether what supports you have and how you have them. If you have a decent Bronya and Hanabi and have knowledge in Speedtuning them with Selee, you can even make Selee beat Pure fiction. And in the new endgame mode, Selee is possibly one of the few characters in the game who can do the equivalent of "0 cycling" that mode. Since it's based on AV instead. The problem with Selee is that a LOT of her potential ceiling at endgame is locked behind having her LC, Hanabi and her E2. Which really sucks.

Shes really fun, had her since day 1 and still love seeing her proc resurgence "Let me end your misery"

​@@lordsalt7595 Seele doesn't even need Sparkle to be good

Thank you! 💝

Yeah it's totally possible, and if you can 5 cycle first half it would be even better to clear second half

Verdade

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Yeah, i thought that it could help her with the advance forward and i was right, if it was with ruan mei she could insta kill the trotter with her E, hopefully next weak i will test with ruan mei (please god's of 50/50 help me)

I just use the better sub-stats relics that i have an inert salsotto on her, and the light cone is the free 5 star from herta shop but what carries her team is robin for sure

So sad... i hope that you can get him until the final of his banner

@@LinkyedHSR its okay! Im probs just gon firefly atp. I wanted boothiil but aight ig hoyo wants me to mecha girl and not mecha cowboy :(🤠

She is really good with robin or if you are going to pull for Jade

​@@ihyouka the last few moc and pf are bad for her, especially fighting against the present robot that only give dot

@@ak--dj4qmi got 40k 1st node with clara himeko dual carry btw. Still i agree that present as the elite is anoying af

You are right, as it was my first clear i was adjusting for the new buff, i was too accustomed with the previous one that sometimes i forgot about the trotter and his buff hehe

@@LinkyedHSR No worries I was just giving Advice it took me a bit to get accustomed to the new Weather too I hope my advice helps 😊😁

Thanks 🥰