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Years late but growing up with Megaman and Bass outside of rare exceptions it was arguably one of the better games. If I died it was almost always due to me being bad then unavoidable deaths. Now this being said I will say 100% BS if you start the game as megaman without prior knowledge of the stages. It feels like it was designed to play as Bass first to learn the levels and gimicks then move onto megamans less then optimal platforming moveset.

The difference is, Megaman and Bass, though difficult is a matter of trial and error, you get a little better with each mistake. Megaman X6 is a matter of trial and fuck you for trying again, after a certain point you will actually get worse the longer you play. If you manage to beat Megaman and Bass, a wave of relief will wash over you as you deliver the final blow, you might even feel a sense if accomplishment as you watch the epilogue and wonder what happens to the characters after this point. After beating X6 you just feel exhausted, get greeted with a short nonsensical cutscene that was made nonCanon 2 decades ago, then the screen goes black and you are forced to stare back at your wasted youth.

2024 here , great video once again!

and yet, despite all the bs they put in x6, i still consider it superior to x5. having to die for half an hour just to lower the amount of "hours" and enable boss drops is by far the worst thing this series has ever done. i am not counting the games that came after x6, because those just don't exist to me.

Now that the game is out... We can safely say that the unthinkable has happened. Fang the Sniper has traumatized an entire generation of Sonic players

mmx8 so down low? sorry totally disagree

THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT KLONOA AND SONIC AND ALL DISSAGGREER HUNTERS FROM BOTH WORLDS AND GENRES AND TRENRES

THEY KNOW BETTER THAN BRINGING UP CYNTHANEA AND STAFF AND GGRFS AND ALL OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOS FROM BOTH WORLDS NAMES AND GENRES AND TRENRES

Aye dat cyloop betta still be in sonic frontiers 2

They are both unfair, the thing is that X6 doesn't have gameovers

X2 has the best soundtrack, I forget all after X3

I think the reason why X5 was amazing is because X5 was supposed to be the final game for the X series.

Inafune likes taking credit but for better or worse he doesn't really have much to do with most of the games themselves beyond general instruction(iirc his total X5 input was "make it the last one") so it's best to take his words on gameplay with a grain of salt MM&B's main issue is that it was made for one character but not the other. Bass players come away with "that wasn't so bad", MM players come away with "I am in hell please send help"

Only play the Super Famicom version of Mega Man and Bass. The GBA version is terrible.

Megaman and bass is just hard, FUCKING HARD, bullshit even. But it was designed that way. X6 was......just sloppy. It's a rushed unfinished, half baked game. It has good ideas sometimes but the levels are so thoughtless in their design. The game is hard because it's badly made.

Honestly, IMO at least, I actually think MM&B is still way more frustrating to play, and not even in the sense that the challenge was ever meant to be intentional either (which is also why I was surprised to hear that the game was meant to be more hardcore from the outset to begin with, since I never saw this game in that way); tbh though, it could be my bias here since the second King stage alone was way more frustrating than the Gate stages for me since not only is there a lot of content in this one stage that frankly should've been made into their own separate levels (which I'm surprised they didn't do considering most Megaman fortress levels in general have around 4-5 stages to them so it would fit perfectly with the overall structure most of them go for), but the bosses ( _especially_ the King Tank one ) take forever to beat and are taxing enough on their own that it makes this gauntlet extremely brutal, way more than the Gate stages IMO... but also in general, the game just has these parts to it that are frankly far too much to deal with, and even if I love both it and X6 equally for a ton of things (like both Bass and Zero being extremely fun to play as in these games for example), MM&B has enough problems that kind of make me not want to play it as much, in fact it's kinda similar to the first MMZ game in a way, which is also a game that I consider extremely frustrating and unfun that was made to be hardcore first and foremost and would much rather play the sequels instead, so I dunno, maybe the way Capcom does "hardcore game design" is just not something I jive with too much lmao

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music is too loud compared to your voice please consider it next time even though this is 3 years old

Ironically enough, that's two of the MM games with best music and visuals (if you don't agree about the latter in regards to X6 meet me at the parking lot and bring your best upgrade. I love the PS1 era colours, backgrounds, sprites, etc.). Reminds of me how I just don't enjoy MM7 that much but it still might be my favourite music+visuals combo of the series.

I always thought when people said Sonic had a rocky transition into 3D, they meant something like - Where 2D Sonic games are mostly good, Sonic's 3D games are all over the place abd don't have as clean of a record.

Your list is crap, you put x3 to high.

shit take on x2 soundtrack, to each their own tho.

Apparently the whole fight with gate is actually the first boss to implement RNG There is no pattern whenever he throws the orbs You just have to be lucky

Personally i love X8s ost. But especially the final boss. Because it does what most boss themes never bother to do. It actually tells a story in a way. Lumine Phase 1-Ominous, A mysterious foe wrapped in unease. You feel like you're up against a seriously eerie opponent and it fits well. Phase 2-I don't even need to say much, But it is basically the chips are down, You're absolutely in the fight of your' life and the rush of the track hits so epically that it emphasizes the Lucifer like undertone of Lumine beautifully. And then Phase 3-The track tenses up, Becoming somber in a way. You feel the tension as you have only a short time to finish Lumine before your' imminent death takes you into it's cold grip. Most of the games in the entire MM franchise doesn't try to achieve this. It's usually just the stage and the boss themselves having those themes, not solely the boss itself. Battle Network 4 for example. Save Our Planet being a fantastic final level theme that truly amps you up and makes you feel the weight of the situation. Then Duo.exes theme is galactic in it's beats. And works well to feel like you're fighting something not of this world. Both are good ways to do it. But i will always hold X8 high in my heart as my first X game and just how strong those themes are. Even the less good themes like Noahs are still decent. But hey, Don't believe me? There's a reason so much of X8s tunes are used in X Dive including the sad theme which is incredibly impactful imo.

Ppl r just garbage at the game, n look for an excuse.... both games r great, wish megaman n bass had a sequel, my only complaint towards x6 was the low health of the bosses and some stages being too short

I’ve never had a problem with the difficulty per se of each game. A lot of megaman games are difficult and that’s what’s great about a lot of them that idea of overcoming a really tough challenge. The problem is basically what’s said in this video is that when there are tight deadlines difficult becomes “just put a bunch of spikes and enemies everywhere whatever fuck it” which isn’t satisfying really at all.

MM&B is just a MM8 kaizo romhack for me. If you take your time and "lab" the stages, it's pretty fun and actually fair.

Technically speaking, his transition into 3d were spin-offs, so yeah. However, whenever critics bring it up, they're talking about adventure and onward, which is just wrong. The dreamcast version of SA1 aged great unlike other games like Mario 64 and is still a good game.

You know your fanbase is bias when they only hate it for the difficulty

The divisiveness of the boss rush is something I find interesting. I find that the worst boss rush of the series to be Mega Man 1, as it is a gauntlet and has the bosses lazily placed around the stages. And sure having it throughout the stage like MM&B and MMX are fine every once in a while, but I don't want it to become the standard as I find that lazily putting them in the final castle to be kind of pointless as you aren't really doing any weapon management, and it feels way more generic. I mean they literally had to make those types of boss rushes rare so they would stand out. For the standard Mega Man boss rush you also get to chose what boss to go up against next, so you can formulate a strategy to determine which robot masters to face at any time. Not to mention in a game like Mega Man 2, you also have to multiple weaknesses so you have to manage which ones you want to use. I don't really understand people who prefer them randomly placed in the final stages as choice is a huge part of Mega Man games.

God.. as much as Mega Man X2 is my favorite game of all time. Yeah you are right the soundtrack is very weak. But I would not put it dead last. I would of moved it up 2 spots. And I would of moved X6 down a spot. But yeah X1, X4 and X5 had the best soundtracks in the series. (And I think X1 and X4 were not only better OSTs but tied as the best game of the series too)

as someone whos first owned mega man game being mega man and bass, the game was indeed hard even knowing to do cold mans stage first and always getting stuck on him when he sharted out a cloud of which playing bass made some of the stuff trivial mega man did offer a more skillful way of playing. also treble just breaks king stage 1, and the bosses themselves are pretty memorable and ill admit it took me some time to actually beat them and yet the weaknesses were a bit tough to figure out when not having it and i'd say pirate man being weak to the wave burner really threw me off as i didnt think it would actually damage anything and i think i lucked out as mega man when i remembered the waveburner pushed the floating spike balls, the weird weapon trial stage felt pretty rewarding as by time you cleared all other stages to unlock it the shop gained more items and the trial stage was just free bolts. also thank god going into the shop didnt reset the king stages as that was the only saving grace of having everything bought and having a ton of bolts to buy spare bodies all while king tank ate away at them then only for the king machine to just ruin all expectations with the flash bombs or worse yet the time i beat the boss as it punched the platform i was about to land on... king himself was fairly easy and willy was fairly easy too then again i started to believe and ultra instinct my way through the stage. god i miss playing this. should replay it via Rock Man and Forte since the screen crunch on gba was a bit much

which one is worse? easy. i can still enjoy megaman and bass

X6 was horrible... the boss before sigma.. should not be harder. Sigma was a joke. The game felt like they just spammed enemies in levels and just hoped nobody wpuld notice. It was a blatant cash grab.

I do like the X5 Pre Console Soundtrack, but X5 Original Soundtrack feels too unfocused & generic when it comes to its Arrangement.😢

6:03 Lame take; Also i think Dr Light's X3 Capsule matches an ancient doctor from the past to a T

Both RockMan & Forte, and X6 suck for their own seperate reasons. R&F is intentionally hard, but a lot of the bosses suck! I rage quit at King's Castle act 2. I was able to beat X6, but even then, I was able to recognize a *_lot_ of shitty level design and bosses that, like the game they hail from, did not spend enough time in the oven. It was also made behind Inafune's back, because the series was supposed to end at episode 5! The only other issue I have with R&M is: this game was made to pacify people who didn't have access to Mega Man 8, and it shows. Every level has the same trope as MM8, and it even poaches to of the bosses. Why not just make an SNES version of MM8 at that point?

I just finished Mega Man & Bass after playing all the other Mega Man games before it. It was not my first playthrough of the game, but I think is the first time I play through the whole game with Mega Man, and I have a theory: I'm pretty sure that the game was going to be a Bass/Forte spin-off and THEN they decided to add Mega Man. A lot of jumps and enemy placement feels hard for no reason for Mega Man, while Bass has no problem at all. I.e: Tengu Man baloon jumps, King stage two jump before the last fight (the one that you need and Ice wall with Rock), Dynamo Man conveyer belt jumps, and many more.

I have a question: why would you play Mega Man and Bass without playing many of the other Mega Man games? Nothing wrong with it, but it’s kinda strange

15:34-15:35 Where do I find this template?

the intro stage of Mega Man & Bass does feel like it's attempting to warn me about the impending difficulty--there's gimmicks from several previous MM stages, a Devil boss, and Proto Man getting wrecked all right away, which speaks to me in much the same way Aztec Falcon does

Honestly they screwed themselves over by SEGA of America being anti-2D

Hold on, lemme be that guy. *Cough cough* I beat both these games on my first try, you kids are just bad.

playing mega man x6 on xtreme was hell no heath refuels and alot of bs nightmare viruses in dumb random placements

I have never ever found Megaman and Bass to be difficult.

Interesting video but it's not a design flaw if some levels are harder than others from the start. The game is trying to funnel you towards the easier levels. It's your own fault if you go to a level under prepared. That's just how the Mega Man games work.

The difficulty sliders in X6 are pretty pointless. Nightmare mode adds more enemies, but you can still damage-boost through everything that doesn't one-shot you and face-tank every boss. Easy doesn't do anything about the cheap platforming segments that instakill you without foresight or past experience.

I actually like Mega Man and Bass quite a bit. It’s one of my favorite from the original series. I don’t hate X6 but it’s not a very good game. Both games suffer from the same flaw - they’re hard as ass when playing as 1 of the characters (Mega Man and Zero).

I went out and purchased the original Japanese cartridge of Rockman and Forte ($58 after tax) off of eBay for my snes and ill be honest, MM&B is up there as one of my favorite Mega Man games in the classic series. The OST is amazing, the visuals are beautiful, and while the game is very difficult, it's also for the most part fair.

There are way more problems with Sonic Superstars. The lack of a complete & coherent story, the difficulty imbalance, & level SOME designs that slow the game down.