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I happen to be Lutheran, and yet find Fr. Beher's orientation much more appealing. I experience something, sometimes numbing in certain aspects of some Lutheran thinking. Perhaps I'm in the wrong spot. I ask myself this question far more often than I'd like. Oh well, we soldier on with questions questioning questions........

Currently studying design (specifically interior and furniture design) at a very “liberal” university and about 95% of my peers design not with beauty in mind but with the intention to shock people and/or try to be some revolutionary. Unfortunately these are exactly the people that get praised and put on pedestals and considering one of my lecturers this semester made a chair in all white fabric but stained with period blood where it would be if one was sitting unprepared for such an event, I’m not expecting excellent marks for standing my ground in defence of beauty but so be it.

Fr Behr, I listened to the talk and thought about it for months. And with all due respect, I think it's mostly nonsense. You probably know that according to tradition, the Virgin appeared in a the splendour of a queen to St. Basil in a vision, and told him straight up that he would never reveal the mystery of the Sixth Day of Creation before he died. So, we can assume that St Gregory's well meaning attempt to complete the book was destined to fall far short, since Heaven didn't desire the fullness of the mystery to be revealed. And I think the main problem comes down to the premise that there will only be a limited number of saved souls, and that will be the end for all eternity of new men coming to be. And why this is problematic is that in the resurrection, the human body of Jesus Christ was witnessed to be tangible, warm, and to enjoy eating and drinking. Meaning that the evidence demonstrates that in his glorified state, man remains a creature of flesh and of the earth, and lives in a way not too dissimilarly from how he currently does in terms of food, drink, rest and so forth. Therefore, in the New Earth conditions for life must be something like they are now, with food growing and the need for natural resources to make things for living. This implies that man must continue to live in a natural world capable of supplying those needs, which it can only do by growing them somehow. And a growing world is a dynamically changing one, which is good. Because the inference taken from St Gregory's ideas would be that nature would also have an exact number of plants and animals, and nothing new would ever come to exist. The more you think about it, the more improbable and actually bleak it sounds. St. Gregory imagjnes a finite number of people living in a perfect city, but this really just sounds like a projection of Greek philosophy onto an unknown future reality. It's beautifully cogent, like a symphony, but ultimately of a dubious wisdom according to reality. The ides has an almost Gnostic quality in its need to deny the natural created order any place in eternity, and replace it with a world of perfect forms and satisfyingly complete answers. It's almost certainly BS. And it's inconsistent with the evidence we see in Christ's body, and in the Prophet Isaiah, which depict something much more like Creation as we know it, but released from the evils of the Fall of Man so that it is restored to its fullness and true beauty. Not some vaugue imaginary and sterile realm of perfect intellect detached from the embodied reality of our connection to the land. I'm not just trolling here, I think that this deserves to be answered, if not here than in some broader way in your s scholarship. Thank you.

Absolutely loved this. Is there a transcript?

There are not many teachers in Christ today at the lofty level of John Behr.

THE CHRIST OF CHARLIE EDENSHAW (for Roy Vickers) by Loren Wilkinson I. Dawn-bringer: Raven, Who let there be light. Shape-changer: Raven, Colour of night. Man-maker: Raven, Who sets things right. In the smoky lodge at night, they knew (Tlingit, Chilkat, Haida); On the beach at dawn, they knew (Tsimshian, Kwakiutl, Makah); In the dripping cedar woods, they knew (Bella Coola, Salish, Nootka) That Raven, who found man in a mussel shell, That Raven, Raven is the bringer of the light II. Raven's children loved the touch of things: Opalescent abalone, Winking from a bear's carved head; Argilite, like ebony. Goat's wool, Seal-skin, Spruce-root, twisted into cord: The glory of the thing- But most of all, the cedar: Raven gave them cedar and taught them how to carve, To wake the full-fleshed forms WIthin the incense of the tree: How eagle, whale, mosquito, bear, Beaver, deer and man Made one long dance of chiselled flesh Within the living wood. Raven taught the sacrament Of the half-guessed, thousand-fleshed god Whose own hands carved the earth: And in front of the lodge in sunlight, Beneath strong fingers, Shavings curled away Till what remained Was wood made live again With raven's life, maker's life. III. When Jesus was born in Judea Here, between the cedars and the tide, Old men already carved God's words In shapes like ravens' eyes, And waited on this rain-blest coast, For light-bringer, Raven, Blackened in the smoke-hole trap, To spread white wings again: To brood within the shaper's heart, The shaper's touch, half understood, What God spoke here in ravens' croak Because his maker's hands Were set on other wood.

Brilliant! Thank you for posting this!

Is there a video which includes the question/answer segment?

As a minimalist yes! He is right. I like everything simple

Thanks for uploading this 'Regent College'.

Dr Miliner is such a riveting teacher! and this conversation leaves me stunned. In love with the path of forgiveness and patience and action he's walking.

I really appreciate this presentation. Enchantment is something that we do nearly think enough of

Really appreciate this talk. I’m a big fan of Piranesi and also Barfield. When I read the book I had no idea that Susanna Clark had been reading Barfield, but I could see it all through the story. I hope more people engage with Barfield’s thoughts.

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This is a thought provoking and compelling lecture. I just wish he was not reading his notes the whole time. It was distracting. I know it is a lot of information and supporting authority, but a mix of reading notes and engaging the virtual audience without reading notes would have given space for the the lecture to be more dynamic and accessible. A little less precision and a little more story telling would have added another nuanced dimension to his wonderfully thoughtful work.

That is so cool!!! Thanks for putting this video up!

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Thank you for your insights on the Sabbath. I am praising God that He is fulfilling His promise and showing the world how important the Sabbath is for human recreation and re-creation.

Love it! Pure, just like his faith

Thank you Clive

I love this, I sure do...This is arguably one of the greatest poets I have come across in my life. He thinks deep, imagines deep and reasons reasonably...

Thank you so much! This meditation provided much to reflect on, and the cantata is a treasure.

Wonderful! Thanks so much! Soli Deo Gloria!

Sven, Ed and Amy, many thanks for this beautiful meditation on Bach's amazing cantata. It's a wonderful gift for Holy Week..

I am currently reading your book, “The Rest of God,’ and finding immense joy in it. The book has made me think about so many things: the way we use time, how we think of gifts, what is for us, and what is for God. And other things too, that you cover in your book. It is extremely well written and has kept my attention through the whole thing. I love the way you write! I think it is very important to begin the Sabbath in the evening time, mimicking the creation of countdown there was evening, there was morning, a day. I also like what you say about not doing your own on the Sabbath, but doing whatever it is that we are doing for the glory of God. It is well that there are not a lot of rules in the Torah to govern the Sabbath; we can make it our own, not become too legalistic about it, but yet still keep it for his glory. I read a number of books a week, and your book has made me think long and deeply about keeping the Sabbath. I knew I was called to keep it before, but now I have a more concrete idea of what it is how it is and why it is. Thank you so much for writing your book! I am forever grateful.

Conteúdo sensacional

Glória a Deus!

What a tragedy that he died.

I miss this man

This is one of the best short videos that I've ever seen. I love the opening poem, and the proposal on imagination that comes through afterwards seems so important to recovering a vision for Christian life in the Kingdom. It's worth watching again and again. Thanks to both Regent College and Malcolm Guite for putting this together.

Amazing, this woman is inspiring 🤩🤩🤩

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Shalom ... 🐑✝🍞🍷 📜 Hebrews 11 By Faith We Understand 11 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. 🙏 .👀 so then it is the image in imag- ination that allows us to see by or through the Spirit of Faith 🕊 It is entirely by his doing .... seek and you will find ✝ .. so do you SEE 👀 what I mean ⁉ 📜 Ephesians 2:8-9 8 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith-and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God- 9 not by works, so that no one can boast. Amen and Amen 👂

Glória a Deus!

"The Earth is a tiny and fragile world. It needs to be cherished." - Carl Sagan

Really difficult to read the subtitles! Muito difícil ler as legendas!

My mentor and supervising professor in one of my studies at Regent College in the 1990's. Brilliant and sensitive believer, he showed me a peek into the Trinity like no other Christian leader ever could. Thank you Dr. Houston.

Glad to see somebody from Nigeria here. I know my dream of studying here will come to reality someday soon.

Que produção absurda! Que conteúdo transformador!

"Deus me ajude a enxergar o que o Senhor já está fazendo" Amei ❤️

This whole serie was just amazing. Thank you my brothers!

Estamos estudando este conteúdo em grupo com os irmãos de nossa igreja. Deus seja louvado pela vida de todos que trabalharam nesse precioso projeto.

Inspiring!!!

Glória a Deus!

Congratulations on launching your new book David. I'm looking forward to reading it. How did you get connected with Eugene Peterson and Bono for the short film that inspired your book?

God bless you from Regent College!

Esboço do episódio Abraão a Davi Somos chamados a confiar, Deus leva a história adiante, chamando as pessoas comuns a confiar e obedecer. Somos abençoados para que possamos ser uma bênção. O povo de Israel deve ser o agente redentor de Deus, buscando shalom (significa paz, harmonia, integridade, da prosperidade, bem-estar e tranquilidade) em todos os aspectos da vida cotidiana e sendo uma bênção para o mundo. David para o exílio . Durante o exílio, parecia que Deus falhou em cumprir suas promessas a Israel, mas Deus mantém a história em movimento, mesmo quando seu povo falha com ele. Exílio para Jesus Contra todas as expectativas, Deus leva a história a uma realização magnífica em Jesus e promete redimir toda a criação. Exemplos de perguntas para discussão Qual era o propósito de Deus em chamar Israel? Como Deus operou na vida de Israel e das pessoas comuns? Rich Dean compartilha várias situações complexas que ele enfrentou. Existem situações ou áreas da vida impossíveis de resgatar? Os cristãos devem estar envolvidos? Discuta por que ou por que não. Que situações complexas você já experimentou? O que você pode aprender com a história do relacionamento de Deus com Israel nessas situações?

Sample discussion questions about the video: 1. What do Genesis 1 and 2 tell us about who we are and God’s purposes for creation? 2. What does the fall mean for God’s original purposes? 3. How could remembering the beginning of the biblical story change how we think about our vocations and our culture? 4. Understanding the creation story helped resolve Hugo’s tension. What difference might this make for the tensions you experience?