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i mostly agree with your tier list. i agree with his placing but i do think youre kinda undervaluing wukong's usefulness in pve content. especially in hydra, hes really valuable as a buff stripper and damage dealer that also places block buffs through poison cloud which ive found to be huge for recovering runs that might otherwise be lost. The one placement i do disagree with, and this is probably a controversial take, is adelyn. while she is certainly not with the big boys in S or A tier, i think she has been tremendously useful to the many players who dont have siphi but still want to speed run sand devil. yea, there are other champs that can place a sleep, but she places two other debuffs which is helpful for reducing the boss's passive damage reduction. if i were to make this tier list, i think i would put her in B tier, probably above deliana

This was the first video which made me start to truly understand the concepts. Also the first raid vid that kinda spoon fed me the information. It was perfect for my slow brain (playing it @ 0.75x helped) 😂. I will watch this again and again to nail it down. Thanks a bunch sir, great vid!!!

Great video, I’ve always stuck with 20 for turn attacks following the same theory as normal dungeon divers that it would be more efficient. This has opened my eyes, but I agree with another commenter, Plarium will see this and double the points requirement 😂

Was around 140 pulls without a lego and pulled 40 shards and got me a Vlad (had Konstantin already) and Shu-Zen. Can't complain this run ^^

Great breakdown, watched it twice. 🎉🎉

Hey there, Thank you from you for your great video. I'm on my 5th day. I'm finding hard getting champions geared. Karl is 50 with 5 ascended. Warpriest 50 5 ascended, ninja 50 2 ascended. I'm going through hard campaign

How to get him?

Fire Knight Stage Three is known (Google It) to be the most efficient stage for Dungeon Divers. The Turn Attack format really buys into this. So if you ever see Fire Knight Turn Attack... overlap a Dungeon Divers... we are set up for really efficient runs. Selling all the gear along the way will boost your silver. You won't get much EP on any food your bring along, but that bonus will be in place too (just make sure your food doesn't get a turn).

Thanks.

I will be targetting epic only teams - I just gottten second akemtum so I could try for very fast SPider Hard 10 speed run

I´ve been using this method since I went for Tormin on this account. It was back when you and Sun started the clans during NvP. Farmed all between stage 3 and 20 for these turnbased tournaments

I don't do all pulls in one - each day 10 pop or 20 for the weekend 43 voids > 11 epics and 2 legos without reaching mercy Sulferion and Teumesia as I did not finish 4 Fraction Wars yet - Ninja for ShadowKin and these two for the other two. After this I need to figure out Undeadhordes as Dark Ethel really did not do the trick for me.

Watch out for special tournaments tho, like the Epic only tournaments last week were 5700 points I believe. Also, there’s usually a DD event at the same time, so watch out for that because you’ll have to run a bunch more runs and care about drop rates a little bit.

Thank you! Didn't even think to check the points on levels that far back. 😆

Thanks for the heads up - never stop learning new tricks in this game!

This doesn't take into account points for dungeon divers or adding champion training. Efficiency calculation isn't realistic since there are usually more events simultaneously. The daily free energy is finite after all.

I wonder if stage 25 gives the same of 10H considering you probably clear 25 way quicker so you make up the less points with fewer turns

It doesnt make dungeon diver any better lol

Does this mean stage 25 is potentially good value or at least nearly as efficient as stage 20 for turn attack?

Honestly, i've noticed that on turn attack, for my account that can't speedfarm 20+ i have always gotten better pts/energy by doing stage 17,21 instead of 16 or 20. higher than that and the time increase drops the points, but doing the first stage on each tier has been most efficient for me.

i loved the spider epic turn attack, akemtum,royalguard and venomage let me do stage 1 hard for 104pts a pop. and at my lvl bracket it was like 1500pts needed.. very nice :)

Are turn attacks better for dungeon diver events by any chance?

I agree, especially for Hard Spider. You can kill it very quickly, and it is a lot of points

My Ice Golem Group has a guy with 20K in first place.....I have no shot lol. (1 month into my Raid journey)

I hope plarium don't see this, I'm sure they will "fix" it soon.

Oh no! The secret is out, and paylarium will raise the points bar real soon no doubt Great vid.

RIP! Turn Attack Nerf incoming! Thanks a lot, Colred! (kidding). Thanks for the content!

Ice golem is my least dungeon as well but still worth to farm - provoke and cursed are useful for hydra and spider hard, and reflex is useful for so many areas.

Thank you for your job, as always, amazing video!

I farm my hard dungeons during turn attack and normal dungeon 20/24 for dungeon tourneys and diver events. Savage, speed and reflex will never stop being relevant for my account

Efficiency is going to be up to what your account can do.. Stage 20 normal gives me 50-54 points for 32 energy on super raid. Stage 10 hard give me 40+ points for 20 energy without super raid.

I've played the game daily for almost 3 years, very low-spender, and still enjoy it. I have some of the best and some of the worst champs, but still haven't completed all the content. That being said, your videos, Colred, are an amazing addition to the growing community resource. I started watching the first part of your clanboss guide, only because you told me to at the start of the second part, which I clicked just to see if there may be any new insights to be gained. And I learned a whole hot-damn lot of new stuff and gained many insights, which led to my first 1key UNM. To show my gratitude, all those videos were watched from first to last second, Likes firmly smashed and a broken Subscribe-button. So, thank you for your excellent content. It's well-produced, insanely competent and like I said, a priceless resource for years to come. Almost none of the Raid cc's have as many subs as they deserve, but the subs are at least supportive and loyal in this community. Can't wait to further take part of your expertise, follow your rising stardom in the community, and looking forward to see you collab with all the other cc's! Or if you remain completely solo. I don't care, I'll watch either way.

Comment for comments sake, cheers col and sun 👌

Plarium is watching! The next tournament will require 50% more points.

These Turn attack ones are cool, but the epics only is a pain and I would guess excludes 60-70% of the player base from doing it efficiently....

same!!! with 2 food im getting 27 a run or 54 for a double run on lvl 20, and I love that leggo ore edit: im farming them because I need 1 epic void for the chase reward I was going for

Just started watching this and can't wait to see your theory crafting

Colred, thanks for the tips about the advanced quests. 25 days of every advanced quest gives a 5 star chicken, an Epic and a legendary skill tome. It should be very valuable. Usually I don't get the obtain epic or greater items from farming dungeons. I can do normal 24.

I wish you would've talked about hydra, you didn't really at all. Hydra is probably my favorite part of the game currently. Though I just pretend trunda doesn't exist.... for my account personally rathalos would be S just because of hydra, I love seeing the 4-6 mil hits. As well as the almost 10 mil aoe I can get from time to time. Just a fun champ there.

If it wasn't for those dang bonespurs, Riho could have proudly served her country. 😔 😂 all jokes aside, I finally got Gala, and I've been sitting on her soul for a while now so I'm looking forward to getting her to rank 6

Weird one for me, I didn't "hit", other than I finally got Weregren Suncursed, which was the last piece needed for Mikage. Currently up 5k in the tournament, but I'm trying to make sure I'm prepared for last minute heartbreak there.

Had 9 void shards... 9 rares. Bummer. 15 months without a void legendary pull. I've only ever pulled on void legendary, and that withing my first ten void shards ever. At least I got Pythion from my one prism shard pull.

I have got Cardiel along side with Whisper and Skullcrown in first pulls. (Also I got Gnut from last x2 Ancient event ). I am F2P and this is my first Void from shards. Before Cardiel the one and only ally attack champ on my account was Morag. And now I have the best ally attacker in the game. Would love some Valkyrie now, haha, but Skullcrusher would be nice aswell to conquer Fire Knight Hard. Good luck to everyone on these pulls guys!

Snagged a dup supreme elhain ugh back to the grind. Too bad they dont let you earn a ‘redo’ option where u toss back the leggo and have a guaranteed chance at a different leggo

I only had 5 (would have had 6 this week had I not been booted...without direct messaging notice to me...), and as usual nothing good.

I've been playing for nearly 5 years and the first void legendary I pulled, probably within the first year of my account, was Tormin. I started after his fusion so he was a true game changer for me. There was no stone skin back then, speed was the only meta for arena and he allowed me to break through all of that.

Pulled Cardiel, problem is that it's my second. In 4 years I pulled 10 void legos and of those only 5 are unique. Which means 5 of them are dupes. So upset. And if those, only siphi and Cardiel are worth anything. My luck is bad! Dude cardiel is good though, just wish it was a new void lego I didn't have.

I ran 112 shards and i got a few epics(no inquisitor still) a dupe of ansiri(excited to have 2, 1 for cb 1 for sandman) and 1 legendary.. cardiel. Lmao i kinda feel like i got a mercy legendary during 2x but i really cant complain because i did in fact get cardiel! But i really can complain because those shards were not cheap 😢😂

Just great video!

Did a 10 pull (no mercy 7 shards in from last leggo) ... l did amazing ... pulled dupe Ursala, dupe Aox and Cardiel ... Cardiel is going to be huge for me since I have Falmond ... I also got a dupe from an ancient that allowed me to get Deacon to a plus 3