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Good stuff and Aaron really listens to his users, even the nobodies. He knows everyone has something to contribute. Great mindset. Best of luck!

Fantastic

Thank you for the thoughtful presentation on this topic! I am inspired to find ways to use my skills to help with the barefoot developers movement!

I had a similar hunch and am glad to see it resonate with people I admire so much! To be more specific my vision was that with the introduction of LLMs that can code many subscription-model and freemium businesses can be put to the sword. This will have the effect of thinning the forest of the trees in the middle - problems that are solved poorly for free, that entrepreneurs offer to solve well for a modest amount of money. If these AI-enhanced barefoot developers do their job right many profitable businesses will face competition from truly free alternatives. This was not possible before because the effort involved and the opportunity for profit available drove people to make professional apps and charge users. These services proliferated a lot and now they are ripe for that forest fire. But the thing is, what will be left will be a fat and growing number of free barefoot software on one end, and an entrenched monolithic empire of Big Tech software on the other end. The middle will also be under constant pressure from people's ever-shrinking disposable income (see the Surplus Energy Economics blog). But this middle is the target of many people's aspirations. Earning a living as an entrepreneur on the Internet, or CZcamsr, etc. As these opportunities taper off the barefoot developer challenge will be replacing the wealth derived by spending money on a handful of subscriptions and paid apps with their free alternatives, built using AI LLMs. Sort of like in the before-times when a lot of the economy was not monetary, but services provided free of charge in the household. For example meal planning apps. Or an even clearer case, plain-text accounting - there are many shiny subscription-model finance apps out there, but beyond the command-line wall lies hledger, or beancount. These work, they're local-first, and can be gotten to do almost anything you want with your finance data. But it's effortful and frustrating to string together commands to get text reports. And visual reports involve even more effort. But eventually this can be solved. And then more and more people will no longer have to pay that subscription.

Would like to propose that we do already have a giant sub-industry within tech that provides charges based on the value it provides rather than the threat to delete data, that we could port over business models from - gaming. Be it f2p, microtransactions, or “battlepass” type models, i think there’s a lot we may be able to learn and apply over to traditional b2b / b2c software as well

Tuomas is the hero we don’t deserve. It’s still a puzzle to me that I can sit and watch all these pioneers share their insights into how they build state-of-the-art applications, for free. What a time to be alive. Thank you for another great talk.

Good

Very interesting. But when I am thinking of it I only can imagine some apps where part of functionality is local first. I can't imagine case where I don't need some centralized data and logic at all.

Why is the intro music so loud?

The intro music broke my speakers.

Why does the intro music want to kill my ears?

great talk. lots of gud takes!

Thanks for this! Think local, shop local, app local 😂❤

Data Syncing is a big topic! Let's talk about it! Anyone here have anything to say on the subject?

Well done: informative, very clear and easy-to-grasp graphics that punctuate the narrative, and confidently presented. Overall, it shows that you've put a lot of thought into this topic. Thanks for your effort.

Amazing talk, very clear and neat.

This is great. But I would like to know what happens when you want to enforce certain rules (that you can not express in a wchema) or what if you need a different type than the one for editing (where everything is optional)

Very very valid points actually 👍

Isn’t barefoot == indie hacker?

Oh my goodness, I have thought about this for some time. I can see a substantial rise in SaaS development catering to niche workflow tasks, and they are genuinely gaining traction. Furthermore, a speech delivered by the founder of Patreon at SXSW resonates with the concept of the "barefoot developer" idea. The talk name was, "Death of the followers".

powerful stuff thanks!

Dam bro something better than Anytype

Loved the talk, great story, great Message and great design!

As a flutter dev, I'm thankful that I decided against all that javascript struggle🎉🎉

Incredible talk. Thank you, Maggie!

This is powerful stuff.

Cool talk. Gets to an interesting point. I've solved both of the hard problems, but it's taken me a custom language with efficient closure serialization to do it. (eyg.run) from the otherside sharing DB's across apps is awesome.

Nice! I really like using postgres. Can't wait to try it out!

Great talk - thank you for sharing!

Congrats on building the foundation of the future!! Can't wait to try out ElectricSQL and PGLite

Very interesting talk. The "hypothetical future sync service" sounds a lot like a Jakarta Messaging to me. JMS already offers a standardised means of asynchronous communication whereby changes made on one device could be published to the service and picked up by another device which is subscribed to the same service.

amazing talk

Great event. Thanks for sharing this! I'm looking forward to the next one!

Hum..

Great talk Aaron!

Amazing talk 👏👏👏

WHY IS THIS SO SHORT

Signed up on the mailing list yesterday, can't wait to see the first releases like with Radiant and the potential meta framework with tamagui!

I've been following this movement from a bit of a remove but I’ve been and remain extremely psyched about it. It seems this was a highly impactful conference. I wish I could have been there, but in lieu of that being able to watch the talks via the channel has been wonderful. Thank you to all the organizers and speakers!

Super helpful talk!

Maggie the GREAT!!!

Is there any open source alternative to these paid products?

Oh finally this has been uploaded

@Jack McCloy, any thoughts about the challenges of commercialising local first software? It seems that's a big hurdle to overcome, since a lot of developers like building SaaS because it gives them an easier way of monetising their software.

contacts and table demo got me excited, you can immediately tell what we as app devs and app users were missing out on all this time. great stuff!