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Its from Thailand. You can buy the same kit from me on ebay

Hi ok what is your ebay seller's name,i am building 2 grom motors 1 2v 186 on a tbolt bbk & a koso 170 4v,but after seeing your tube vid i like the look of your bbk cylinder to 4v instead of the koso 170,I've a 3mm stroked kitaco crank & 5speed to install

@@darrynnorris4368 Mxdaua118 on ebay. The kit comes with everything needed for the installation. The cylinder is way better than the tbolt kits and koso kits. Super thick sleeve no issues with crank them and could bore it out bigger in the future if you want.

Do you know how much power you make at the wheel? They have the Daytona 212 4 valve motors that claim 20hp.

@@NICKELGHANDI haven’t dyno tuned yet but id say 30/35hp raced a ninja 300 yesterday was super close.

Have you figured out the jetting yet?

I can help if you need it.

@@DustySteel I never got it running right, so I went back to the stock carb. What size jets did you use? I tried pretty much every jet, different clip locations on the needle.

@@atherton-62 what size carb did you end up getting? I was able to get a 28mm to work but it wants a 25 pilot with a 135 main at 6000’ in elevation. That’s with a cold air intake and a de-restricted exhaust. I also ported the intake and exhaust. Really the bike wants a 26mm. 28mm is recommended for 170cc-190cc. My bike is at 222cc now and I’m going to install a 30mm PWK.

I have a wideband setup to know for sure with tuning.

Just bolted it up man, if you port the head to match the new intake tho it will help even more

Awesome!! What size jets did you end up using?

Thanks man

Lmk what you find out coz same, got my eye on this bike

Wat'z Up Aston, I'm not an expert on bikes but since I don't have much money I don't mind researching & asking a lot of questions.... The idea of a new bike w/o any broken stuff that I can't see is a good reason to buy this. A new bike ain't like a used one that they didn't take care of. That said, this bike has been around in S.America/Asian countries for a lot of years so it's a proven reliable bike unlike the crappy Amazon/Chinese stuff for $2,000, you get this one for $2,800 + Dealer Fees($3,500) total. There's really nothing wrong w/ the carb on this bike except it will die on you like as you're leaving a stop sign if you don't give it lots of gas. Same on trails, in low gear you have to do a lot more gas/clutch to keep from stalling & that's why everyone talks about doing the carbs. This bike is not gonna get much more power no matter what you do & there is a big bore kit(piston & head) that'll make her a 220cc bike but even w/ that upgrade you still won't be carving up the Interstate Highways. This little bike is a town bike & you can safely ride her on a 60MPH Road but even then I'd let cars by you if they wanted by, you got the right to a lane but best to let em' go by you to be safe. But in town she's got enough to get ya where you're going. The carb fix is changing both JET's inside to a little larger to give more fuel but you don't have to do it & it doesn't make the bike faster, just keeps ya from stalling her which you'll learn to do anyway. You can open the airbox & fix the carbs all for cheap & it might get you a little more but not much & you really don't have to do anything right away. The 1st things I'd do is get a better set of tires & if you ride 70% on roads, 30% on trails, buy a decent tire for a 70/30 ride but only after using the ones on it for 2k miles or so. Overall, it's a good bike that'll get you around for cheap & that's why I'm looking hard at her. Also, when ya get ready, look for last years model b/c it will be less money for the same damn bike. Honda ain't doing major upgrades to this b/c if they do it's mess with all the Emissions & they are competing w/ Chinese Bikes that cost less so they don't wanna go to high. I'm an old guy looking at this bike b/c she's light & reliable, don't need much upkeep so ya ride her for a few yrs & leave it on side the road. Not really but she's a good bike for 1sr bike. Let me know if ya buy one? peace

@user-dv7hb2sc9m fs man, it'll be closer to fall when I get mine. I plan on buying it out flat. I'm looking to make it my daily on decent nights to go to work. Thank you for your feedback really helps me out. I'm pretty sure imma get her just a matter of time

28mm is too large for the stock bike. It’ll work though. At 6000’ with a 30 pilot jet and a 135 main, it’s too rich at idle and actually wants a 25 pilot. (Also cold air intake, ported intake and exhaust, de-restricted exhaust) 28mm is recommended for 170cc-190cc. I have 222cc now and it’s still rich with a 28mm and 30 pilot. 30mm is recommended for 222cc. I’ll be able to give an update on jet sizing with a 30mm here soon. Upgrading the carb doesn’t really gain top speed, just more power in each gear. The 222cc definitely allows for higher top speed and hill climbing power. Need to test different sprocket ratios to test for higher top speed. An upgraded cam and heavy duty valve springs would also really help.

I can climb long hills now in 5th gear and it gains speed instead of loosing speed and having to downshift.

Sorry not following? What do you mean

@@andreoli118 sorry the special nut that holds the clutch basket in place…. Is there a trick to keep it from spinning when trying to loosen it?

Not really sure but it probably will work there all basically the same motors still

Hell yeah man!

Stock with the baffle removed

Some should come up with it man!

This guy blinks one eye at a time. He might not even be human.

@@GSBW_ maybe not who knows

In south Florida dude

Thanks man!

Defense worth it man.

Am I correct in the size at just under 200cc. And what top speed did you get to . I am looking to go at least 70-75 mph.

No problem thanks for watching man

Thank you

I will add the links of the parts i used. The carb made a huge difference in mid range/high rpm. Gained a ton of torque tru the whole rev range. It does burn a lot more gas but its way better. Im in Florida no real hills here but with wind it doesn’t loose its speed. Definitely worth it. Total spent was about 100$. You will have to play with the needles and jetting to make it perfect. Found this out after some more testing. Can post the needle and jetting settings used if you want them let me know.

I would appreciate your settings, it will give us a good starting point , I am under 200 ft. , so that's good for me . I am curious as to the boys in Portland testing a 222 cc. Cyl. Big bore kit . with a cam . Sounds fun .

Thanks for your listing and prices . Can't wait for another video with pics of speedometer top speeds . I am interested in what jets you picked and needle slot you picked . Again Thanks for your research and advice .

What's the size of the new air filter?

​@@remskiidadula7114 He listed the links the airfilter in the "description" along with carb and carb boot .

Haha always cooking 🧑‍🍳

Thank you 🙏🏼

I’m running the Dhm 186cc Kit also I was curious. I thought you would have to get a new piston and sleeve to fit the 205cc the 186 cylinder wouldn’t fit a 205cc piston

Because of the stroker crank it gives it more displacement. Use a engine size calculator and put in 63.9mm stroke and 64mm bore it gives you a 205cc engine size. Im going to make it even bigger soon

@@c0byreen671 yeah they don’t sale anything bigger than 64mm for the groms. Anything bigger than that you will have to sleeve it. Can sleeve it to 72mm if a upgrade bigger pin rod

Nope already figured out the noise was the idle control valve. Already fixed it ill make a update soon show my logs afr is 12.8 at wot and perfect driving. Cold starting with out any gas got it mint 🤙🏼

I don’t need any electrical upgrades bikes is totally fine lol and been stunting the stock hub for a yr no issues with lower delivery

Thanks man thats good to hear then 🤙🏼

That would a beast for sure man. Im trying to get my friend with a kp150 to do it

must be a big bore kit. thats what it looks like

⁠@@warrenpeas honda grom msx125 engine bored/stroked

Honda grom mxs125 motor

Thank you

Coming soon! 🙈😂

Was rebuilding the motor and never got to it yet. Im planning on getting it done this year soon and ill make a video of the build soon 🤙🏼

Its hard at first dude, just gotta get used to leaning back to keep it up but gotta be locked in so you dont fall off.

@@andreoli118 got ya, yeah I’m pretty comfortable shift locking, and with one hand. As soon I want to let go, I drop the bike, like you say keeping it up is the hard part lol cool man Appricate hitting me back up…

@@lulu_tx648 if you comfortable with shift lock and one handed then try to get used to no throttle hand coasters and then try no hands after you’ll get it dude just gotta keep trying it!

@@andreoli118 gotcha, I’ll give it try man 💯 you got them down badass man

😂🤣🤷🏼‍♂️ you can’t do better

@andreoli118: YOU MUST HAVE NEVER HEARD OF DIRT BIKE RELL OR LOR DEV, THE ORIGINAL NO HANDS KINGS DECADES BEFORE THIS VIDEO STOP ACTING LIKE YOU REALLY DOING SOMETHING, YOU ABOUT 10 TO 15YRS LATE, PROBABLY JUST LEARNED TO DO THIS YOURSELF, YOU AINT NO PIONEER OF THE WHEELLIE GAME, NEVER HEARD OF YOU LAME VULTURES.

Thank you 🙏🏼

If I could do that I would show off every time I see people

Thank you 🙏🏼

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Hell yeah man hopefully you can hop on one soon dude 👊🏼🤙🏼

I don’t know why I don’t get notifications on CZcams for comments smh. But sorry to hear that man. Hope you got it figured out. Someone that know how to do it should be able to do it in under an hour for sure. Probably like 30mins honestly.

Thanks for your response. A few days later I tried again, as taking off in the first gear and I got 100 feet and the engine stalled again. I then put it back into my garage and tried to see again if I could somehow get the gear into neutral and all of a sudden I saw that beautiful green N light come on. So now all back to normal and not sure what happened from a fall on to soft grass but it has now worked perfectly since it happened. I am new at this, and practicing in my driveway and lawn for the test for a license. Being up in Canada with snow, it will have to wait till June or so.

@@erwinerwin1245 Thats awesome man good to hear that was probably a weird glitch for you never heard of that before. Maybe something was not out of place from the fall and then i moved back eventually. Not really sure but if its working now its not a problem anymore!

Also after I picked it up after the fall, it would not start for a minute or so. (I assume it must be a safety feature that the motor shuts off after a certain tilt as flat on the ground) Something must have fell out of place like you mentioned and all of a sudden it fell back in place and all works as good as new. Question: Is riding the clutch at the friction point to control speed in certain slow speed exercises hard on the clutch?

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They do man there mad fun!

Thank you

Thanks man!