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Thanks mate for the clear instructions. I'm literally about to mount the speakers to the ceiling. ( Surface touched not inceiling) I'm a bit confused though then I tought with only two overhead speakers I should place them around halway the tv and the sitting position. I will use a bracket that enables to angle the speakers at the listener's ears. Can you confirm that its better to place them just slightly above you with the 10 degrees angle?

I can't for a second believe that the Blu-Ray version of The Fugitive, as presented here, actually looks that bad. I mean, they wouldn't release something that looks like that. I can recreate that oversaturated look by pressing all the plus buttons on my remote, but that's not something you actually sell to the public! I've never seen any film (except for 8th generation VHS copies) that looks that bad. I mean, the 4K version looks normal next to it. Perhaps that was the idea?

have you ever heard of pre elevated inceiling speakers with a extra pivotable tweeter? An inceiling speaker also utilizes the ceiling as a endless baffle wich has further advantages in the frequency response! so your ideas are not complete. bookshelves also do not create a cone... in the lows it is more like a full circle... what brings you to the biggest disadvantage of them! unwanted reflextions! just to name some

Really appreciate the guidance. Thanks! Question: doesn’t room correction software, such as Audyssey or Dirac, compensate for less than ideal physical placement?

Very helpful.

Where do these multiplier numbers come from?

Easy to understand & of great value, thanks

I just returned from CEDIA 2024 in Denver. I have been attending CEDIA since 1992. ALL of these questions are addressed in the CEDIA "recommended practice 22" (RP 22). If you are serious about placement of speakers, you will obtain this document. It is the state of the art at this time. It took a couple of years of true experts to formulate this paper. It can be downloaded free. USE IT! Learn from the experts! The experts are now referring to "zones" and tend to avoid exact "angles". Good luck!

One thing I had to get out my head while placing my speakers was "distances" and replace it in my head with angles. Thanks for sharing.

Very close to how I have mine wired. I think I used Home Theatre Guru’s guide. So many people just line up the ceiling speakers with the main l/r bc of Dolby’s confusing/contradictory instructions and diagrams. Anthony Grimani has very interesting methods for ceiling speaker placement too. Iirc, he prefers the heights to be more inboard

Amazing

Not sure if you remember our conversation but I got my Valencia seats and bass shakers. So much emersion and I also went with the amp you suggested… super nice!!

New subscriber from Philippines have a nice day very interesting videos Love it

Doesn't work for all rooms though. My screen is similarly large, but I can't place speakers behind it unfortunately, so I've had to place my centre speaker above the screen, as it'd be within reach of children if placed under the screen, and front sides have had to go on the edge of the screen. My rear heights have also had to go right above the listening position as my room is too narrow from front to back unfortunately, nor do I have side walls, so I have had to put surrounds on the back wall... Have had to make a lot of compromises, only the center heights are able to be placed correctly.... All my speakers are adjustable in angle though, so I'm hoping once everything is finished it'll still sound good.

You make it very easy to understand. Today I will be setting up my 5.1.4 system and this video just shows up

You make it very easy to understand. Today I will be setting up my 5.1.4 system and this video just shows up

Thanks for sharing this. I will use this video in my new home with hopefully a proper 5.1.2 setup. Surround right speaker will be on the wall next to the kitchen. 49 inches from my MLP

Love your channel brother, your last video on this revolutionized my sound. I also angled in my left and right speaker toward the mlp instead of straight ahead like they’ve been and that combined with the new placement of the speakers has made atmos way more convincing, the sound bubble is real!! Angling the speakers also didn’t negatively affect the sound from the side listening positions, in fact I’d say they are improved since they aren’t getting blasted with the left or right speaker by sitting in front of it. One thing people should mention is your surrounds should be above ear level (even with atmos speakers) so the sound isnt so easily locatable and those sitting on the sides aren’t getting just that surround blasting in their ear and blocking it somewhat for the person sitting in the opposite seating position. All these things combined has made my same system sound way better with the same movies from all the seats in the house, especially the center seat. It all started because you sent me down the rabbit hole with your last video talking about speaker position. It’s easy to get crazy about this stuff!

Excellent video!!! Thank you for the information. Any chance you could do a video on speaker toe in at some point in the future?

You dropped this at tge right time, im doing my measurements for 5.1.2 and online results were confusing me bad. This is super clear. My right side wall is farther for surrounds and you explained with an exact example. Its like you read my mind or heard my cry lol Thank you so much

In my bedroom I only have a 5.1 system I don’t think I will do dolby atmos in my bedroom for awhile but I do have a 5.2.2 atmos setup it would be interesting to see a tutorial about 5.1

What about the front heights or on top speaker options?

These are Steven Smith's (HT Guru) measurements as well. The .7 multiplier for Atmos equates to 55 degrees, 45 degrees would be multiplier of 1. Not everyone watches his great tutorials so good that you presented as well.

Great video! I learned alot and you definitely helped me figure out placement. Question: so I am setting up my living room, which unfortunately has vaulted ceilings. We have 10' walls and roughly a 10' vaulted ceiling. MLP sit roughly 115" from center, fronts are perfect (I guessed and got it, lol). But my atmos will have to go on the top of the wall above fronts. How far out on the wall from center (top of wall) should they go?

I don't have a TV which movies on attendance tablet Android so would be a game changer for me

Could you recommend a budget of $1K Atmos Dolby build?

I could use it in my build. Never had a projector.

i started my home theater journey back in 2000 with JVC, then Bose & Denon, and now Emotiva…i still have all of my original equipment & speakers never wanting to part ways with any of it…😂😂😂😂

50th anniversary of The Poseidon Adventure was two years ago. Hoping I live to see a 4K release.

Your main listening position distance appears to be longer than the separation between your mains, and therefore does not abide by the .58 rule. Is this just an illusion created by camera?

is the 'main listening position' always assumed to be centered on the screen? What if it isn't - would you still put your center channel directly in front of the MLP or would it be better to center it to the screen?

Measure? Multiply? I thought this was supposed to be easy! 😂

What amplifier do you have yo power everything?

Also note that to measurements should be based on the front of speaker (tweeter) because a bigger tower, for example, is going to affect calculations if you are going by the wall distance. Keep up to great work!

Why not install the ceiling speakers directly over the seating position then?

Do they mean Disney Channel original movies from back in old days and even turn hooch that was on Disney+?

I watch primarily atomos content. Would it be better to run a 7.2.4 or a 5.2.6? I am currently running an Anthem MRX1140 with an all GoldenEar setup. I'm not sure the Anthem can do 6 atmos...

I don't take all these angles seriously. Why, because all rooms are not equal. Ceiling height, room dimensions, sometimes you don't even have a dedicated media room (but I do), acoustics, etc. I use 2 things, common sense and my ears as my best speaker angle tester. Nuff said! Enjoy!

Great video. Question about side surrounds. What if you don’t have side walls. Open concept. My mains are at 30 degrees. MLP 12 feet. How far would the sides be then? My couch is 12ft long.

Quick follow-up question, can you please confirm the angles we would get between the MLP and the speakers when multiplying .58 for the ear level speakers versus what the angle would be when multiplying by .7 for the height speakers. Thank you!

3:25-3:50 that depresses me and idk why because it's not me lol

All you need are masking curtains for movies in the scope ratio on the top or the 4:3 ratio on the sides

What do you do for a living, if you don't mind my asking?

I wanted to see you play a snippet of a movie!

0.7 on height I don't think is accurate.Please refer to Dolby Atmos Home Entertainment Studio Technical Guidelines 2021 for more accurate guideline.0.7 might get the top atmos way too far and loose the center image.

I ordered the diamante home theater chairs from 4 seating. With the sound shakers already installed. It was only a $399 add for all four chairs, It’s awesome.

Very nice tutorial, easy to understand. I love it. 👏 I would be happy if you can do some more tutorials like this. Like how to find the MLP. Viewing angles & avoiding sound dipp and peak. And a other one like what's the hight position on the Side walls if you have one or two rows of seats. Or how to align the speaker to the MLP and what's the benefits if you do.

The sound won't "jump" from side to mains if you don't have wides. It will be a smooth pan provided proper location, calibration and capable speakers

I think it's unfortunately not that simple. I might be wrong of course. For example, a room that's say 15'x20' (mine)... with a MLP at around 14' your math puts LR on the side walls, well outside a 150" scope screen... A room that's narrower (common) gets worse. Say 13'x20' with a 13' back MLP... I think the even distribution is a good goal, but there is a reason Dolby and others have not simplified it to that level, because it doesn't work in many common room sizes. I suppose you could keep the 30 degree angle and place your L/R on the side walls at 30 degrees for example, but the ".58" measurement won't help you in determining where that is. You'll still have to use trig to get there. I'd probably suggest moving surrounds back 10 degrees (100 degrees from forward) to help fill in that rear gap, and keeping your L/R near screen edge to some degree depending on its size, and filling in with the wide halfway angle from LR and Surround. I stead of a 30 degree target, could be more like 40 degrees between all bed layer speakers with 9 at play. I think the point is, it's just not that simple. But I agree, it's a hell of a good way to think about it for a newbie. Another note, I think this may be more of the DTS:X layout spec than the Atomos layout... but I like DTS:X better for many reasons.

Thank you so much for this video! I was waiting for this one and you made it so simple to follow the steps you outlined, I really appreciate it! Can't wait to put these steps into action. Building out my first home theater over the next month and I'll be sure to revisit this video when I am picking speaker locations! Just a quick question, have you had the pleasure of being in a theater that implemented the placement locations you point on this video, and if so, what did you think? Thanks!