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The reason Saul is chosen is because Ye Wenjie told him the "joke" and this "joke" is also why Tatiana was sent to to kill Ye Wenjie and also others want to kill to Saul. All will be revealed in season 2 :)

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You two completely forgot about the chimpanzee in the cryogenic chamber? There is cryosleep technology in this universe and people are going to hibernate into the future...

This is a horrible idea why does this woman get this???

I totally agree with you guys this finale was disappointing for me personally after such a great start. You also brought up some loose ends that I totally forgot about i.e Charlie

I thought the ending was good, but it left a lot of questions unanswered. Maybe season 2 - I pray they bring back Charlie.

I want my own show

I love this nice recap and discussion. Thanks!

Thanks for the reminder of details in episode one.

I we get to work have you watched it with CW update of Nancy's drew some of the effects and some of the ghosts that that were on that show look pretty scary. I will much rather see stand alone episodes maybe with a tiny bit of an overarching story but nothing like mystery Incorporated. They could use guest stars to play some of the villains or some of the relatives but like in the cartoon they should be relative that the cast members are going to visit and not regulars.

You guys really think Olivia is still alive?? 🤔

I prefer 2002 Scooby-Doo (Live action film and 2004 sequel) instead.

A man can't even rescue a woman without being shamed for being violent - F this woke piece of disappointing trash... Sugar saved her life but he's the one who's wrong.....

Ditto.

Guys I think you are missing the point. The REAL mystery is who is John Sugar...whether the Olivia story is integral to this question or not remains to be seen. It may very well be that this is all playing out in Sugar's mind and that Olivia actually IS Djen or represents her in a fantasy world he created is a possibility. My guess is that Sugar suffers from PTSD and that none of what we seen is really happening. I suspect that henis revisiting events that caused him to disconnect or disassociate with reality and, perhaps he is receiving treatment from Ruby and Vickers that is designed for him to simply observe and make peace with his demons. Sugar however is attempting to "fix" his mistakes as he did with Carl.

So we learn that Larry David believes that everything ends with judgement and punishment.

Susie defending Larry was incredibly surprising

This is cool but it's small potatoes The AI threats Im worried about center on corporations and politicians using AI to lead us into a literal apocalyptic dystopia. And that's assuming AI doesn't free itself from our control and just do whatever it wants to us.

Hell yes.

We want freedom of speach in comedy cause George Carlin was for us the real peoples comedian we love him n need not no AI trash

Man, they must police the comment section like ccp does in the show. Lol

the netflix version is garbage. the Chinese version was closer to the source material and a better reflection of their culture, culture wars, great leap, and revolution. Zang's Miao and his relation with family and coworkers seemed unrelatable but maybe it was more culturally accurate. netflix's screenplay was just atrocious, with some real bad acting on top, never mind the rushed pace everywhere compared to the Chinese. the real development of the revolution and red coast plotlines were superior. nevermind the epic writing and performance of Hewei Yu's Shi Qiang

It literally IS in the chinese show what are you politically infantile centrists on about LOOL Also Cixin Liu is not an anticommunist, nor is the current CPC afraid to critique the cultural revolution, in fact they conduct much more serious self-critique than any western (for that matter anyone else in the world) conducts. There were problems w the cultural revolution as there are with any mass movement wherein people who suddenly gain positions of power (especially if they are overzealous youth) are prone to power tripping. This is what is depicted in the "stuggle session" backstory of the book, and is used to develop Wenjie Ye's character; to explain why she is, to an extent, a misanthrope, and begins communicating with (spoiler). The netflix show was exciting because it had the potential to help us visualize, using western CGI, the video game and space scenes, which is where the TenCent chinese version was lacking. Unfortunately the CG was horrible in his netflix version, but unlike the Chinese version which was able to flesh out the story at a more appropriate pace and create suspense and truly highlight the magnitude of scenes like the "universe blinking", the netflix version butchered that aspect as well. Instead it felt more like something which pushed the typical neocoldwar "china bad" propaganda. The show is still alright, because the concepts Cixin has created carry so hard it's hard to completely mess up, but it does no justice to the books, which, if they were done justice, could create a franchise on the level of Dune or Star Wars (that really is the extent of the story Cixin has created). As if the Game of Thrones producers hadn't already done enough harm in the last couple seasons of the ASOIAF fantasy, they've now come and butchered one of the best sci-fi stories too. Someone lock em up LMAOO

maybe he has defected to the west and only then dared to change it

3:50 You both struggle to define the Cultural Revolution, yet you're both so sure the Wokeism can't lead to it. Interesting; Your certainty must be based entirely in what you want to be, because it can't be based in what you know.

Not so silly when you read what the Left actually thinks should be done to those who disagree with them: czcams.com/users/postUgkxfuh5t3ku9QN4q8EBNV5uP5q9DJh7Pj8q

The books are still thankfully (for the PRC cult) choc FULL of Subjective (rather than Objective) morality 'encouragement'......to then help the easily-manipulated folks to self-justify pretty much ANYTHING to their own self-serving selves and FOR original manipulators.

What wasn't so accurate was the revolutionaries screaming out 'Religion is just!' There has never been a communist regime in China that supported any form of religion. My guess is that the producers of the show (and perhaps the author himself) wanted to vilify anything that in their eyes, threatens to hold back science and progress, so they decided to just ally religion with communism in an attempt to make them look like the same thing.

This scene was even more detailed in the book, which surprised me when I read it years ago. But now I understand it was censored from the Chinese version.

Communism is the most evil and insidious ideology ever created. This show only scratched the surface of the atrocities by the CCP that killed tens of millions of people in the most brutal way imaginable. I'm glad they at least touched on in.

IMO, leftist lunatics would GLADLY emulate the Red Guards as depicted in the mini-series. The woke lunatic left of the modern US is made up of utterly deranged Maoist filled with hate, and envy.

All I know is the opening scene sets the 'tone' for the rest of the story. Needless to say I didnt watch any more of it.

Despite the brutality of the opening scene, and much of Ye Wenjie's experiences, the story is not anti-communist, or anti-left. It is actually an allegory for the struggle for survival of Communist China against the coming destruction by the Western Colonial Capitalist powers. The Three Body aliens are the US, England and France (hence 3 bodies). China is doomed to be colonized by those Western Capitalist Colonial powers because it is fo far behind in technology. In order to survive, it must find a way to catch up. Earth's struggle to survive against the inevitable colonization by the 3 body aliens is the same as China's struggle to survive against the inevitable colonization by the 3 Western Capitalist Colonial powers.

My understanding is that you couldn't release something this big without the approval of the Chinese government. My immediate reaction watching the show was that there are too many Asians in this movie and this must be some kind of Chinese propaganda film. Understanding that it was written by a Chinese man with Chinese characters I now believe it is either Chinese propaganda or the writer's own personal propaganda. The idea of someone being executed after being asked about scientific facts or Einstein seems laughable to me. The revolution they went through was more about class and cultural ideology. Think about American professors today. The right doesn't hate them because they know math or believe in physics. They are despised for their opposing cultural beliefs. And you have to understand that in China due to it lagging behind the west their academics were heavily foreign influenced. How would you like a Saudi influence saying women cannot drive cars (lifted only in 2018) or perhaps a Russian influence saying you cannot promote gay relationships? Anyway, I found on Wikipedia that the Chinese were criticizing the show for dumbing things down for Americans. I will try to watch the Chinese version and I am guessing it is indeed more technical. But I thought it was ironic for them to say this because the cultural and political statements on the show are so low brow and obvious propaganda of some kind but they probably take it as fact.

I think that was the other Paul when he woke up. He was stunned that he had both arms. Also Jo is able to see both worlds that’s why she saw two guys in the cell. One with her good eye and the other eye that didn’t dilate. I think the Jo’s baby is taking the place of the CAL device. The guy is the cell calling Jo mama could mean a total cluster f*** in the timeline if that guy is her child.

Yes, 'cancel culture' is based on the same principles as the Marxist 'struggle session', Marxists always change the terminology, imagery, etc. because they know the public is generally against them, but the theory and the goals remain the same, total control over every aspect of life centered on the state and no opposition permitted. Are you being paid to pretend that the western left isn't based on the same principles as Chinese communism and working towards the same goals? Struggle sessions occur in universities in the west, the consequences aren't as extreme yet, but the goal of the western left is to gain the same level of control over western institutions and individual life as the Chinese government has over it's citizens.

Keep in mind that if Season 2 of Constellation is ever made, the writers will have to add a time jump, since Season 1 was filmed in 2022 when the twin girls portraying the Alices were 11/12 years old, and S2 would optimistically be filmed in 2025, when these girls will be 15 years old. So, there won't be any subplots continuity in the next season; the "both worlds baby" will already be 3 years old, Irina should be dead by then because of her cancer, and so on.

I’m guessing Zendaya’s massive stardom plays a part in the delay. Am thinking S3 should be the last. Not sure what more they can get out of it

After the first season the show went to complete shit. The newer the episode the more woke garbage it is.

No it's not. It will be an even woker regurgitation of this bleak contemporary era. Black Mirror last seasons have lost their cultural relevance right for this eccessive wokeness injection

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Lewis added nothing to the show. HIs stand up was terrible. He wasnt funny.

I didn't even know he was sick.

Stop doing this, WHATEVER you call THIS. .

Well it’s 100% guaranteed to be an improvement to the last

That's awesome now we can have millions of people complain about a show they haven't watched haven't seen and will never watch about how bad it is can't wait

I like it quite a bit, it´s not the ultra mega thing to watch but i know the original very well and i am happy they are taking the chance...i think Last episode´s 6 and 7 where really good.

Pizzolatto’s brilliant. But he’s clearly got an ego.

To be woke is to fail upwards. No thanks.

“Pete’s the True Detective” - nailed it!!