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We're not a Constitutional Democracy... we're a Constitutional Republic. Doc Ignatowski wasn't talking about Minsk; he WAS talking about the US. Even Socrates knew a Democracy is a bad form of government. Every voice may be heard in argument, (and Socrates loved to argue) but he knew it would cause derision, division, bellicosity by alienating people from people. There can't be freedom in a Democracy... how can everyone be free when group 1, by mob rules, dictates over group 2?! Democracy has NOTHING to do with freedom! They're antithetical to each other.

And now Belarus is a Russian puppet state. -_-

Every Sorkin's shows are an ideal version of a subject, here politics, like an utopia.

oooooh i forgot or didnt know llyod was in an episode cool!

because its the only thing that ever has.....

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At the beginning of this scene, Jeb sounds like a Republican. I always laugh when politicians say that the voters are smart enough to make their own decisions. Of course we know that for most people that's not true.

"Mr. Zubatov, well Mr Zubatov went all the way to Jupiter to find out what happened to the Discovery and it's H.A.L. 9000 Computer."

Season five was dogshit but Mr. Lloyd is a pro.

Okay. I will play. GREAT SCOTT! Kind regards to Christopher Lloyd and Michael J Fox.

I found it interesting that only a few years after this series ran Barack Obama happened.

0:12 Toby getting interrupted… so good!

Exactly the reason why Afghanistan fell ao fast. We poured money into the country, propped up a government... but failed to instill in the leadership why these ideas are important.

So well written.

I always thought the opening of this clip was interesting. The way he takes issue with the commander not being the one who decides when to go to war is intriguing to me because, in my eyes, that's such an obvious caution to take. A skilled commander may also be a warmonger. They may also know that their greatest strength is military prowess, whereas skills like diplomacy, tact, etc. may not be in their wheelhouse. Would you have wanted Trump to be able to declare war on a whim? Needing to have a secondary branch of government be the one that votes on whether we go to war seems like such a basic function that it always caught me off guard how the show uses that as an example of the US ignoring the Constitution. The document ain't perfect, and Lord knows it needs a few hundred corrections in present day, but that's a good passage of it in my eyes.

Doc Brown and Mr Ditkovich! What a world!

"Well, I can tell that this is going to be a vibrant discussion!" And Toby has to laugh at that.

"I get nervous around laws that fundamentally assume that Americans can't be trusted." Any NRA person would then ask, "Then why are you trying to take away our guns?"

If they don't have a common law system, none of that will work and you need something in place now, or other wise it will be arbitrary.

Christopher Lloyd is an American treasure. So many great guest stars on the west wing.

It was really out of line when Tobey told that guy he'll get his rent when he fixes the damn door.

Take a look at The Glad Summer book cover. Published 1951. Yes the young heroine is saying here comes that Ragamuffin Nicholas Harbourne to...anywho. she Joanne threw the heroes hat over that wall her wall and here comes her reward. Not straight reporting no salaciousness? I feel someone is sayin do you follow? Robert Shaw Richard Dreyfuss and Roy Schneide and JAWS JAWS JAWS not whose whose whose! Okay. Some subtext😊 the Glady summer. Indian Summers. Yeah. So far I have followed the script but who benefits? The pupils are not learning are they PUPILS not named IRIS Murdoch.

One of the most intelligent scenes in WW and there were so many to choose from!

“How many guys do you think it takes?” Still gives me goosebumps.

as much as i love this show, and it's an all time great, i never understood his position against term limits. all elected officials need term limits to keep them from having the power of kings and queens. we need to extend term limits to all elected officials including the supreme court, senators, etc.

brilliant scene demonstrating Constitution vs. Constitutionalism

Wow, I am liberal but the first two statements were garbage. Judges can't be trusted to give equal sentences for two reasons: statistically it has been shown that rich white defendants get better sentences overall, and the laws that are passed give worse treatment to minorities than they do to others, such as the difference in sentencing between cocaine and crack cocaine. Term limits are needed because the supreme court has basically said that it is legal for the state legislatures to create voting districts which eliminate the opposition. So democrat majorities can dilute the republican districts and republican majorities can dilute the democrat districts in their respective states. When term limits are eliminated it brings the threat of authoritarianism. If it wasn't a problem then we would not have had so many presidents that have been elected while losing the popular vote. Another good reason for term limits is because government officials hide their acts. They classify something horrible that has happened as top secret and the voting public never gets that information. How can it be a true democracy if the leaders hide their actions from the voters? Responses to this (if there are any) will probably be that "The West Wing" was a fictional show, but the truth is that real life politicians are out there defending judges that give unequal sentences as well as defending states that are disenfranchising voters by diluting their districts. Not to mention the politicians that classify information so it cannot be released to the public to be judged.

I remember thinking how wrong Christopher Lloyd's character was when this first came on. All these years later and I get it.

"When the process is fair..." It's not. That's why we need term limits. I voted for a senator I hated last election because the other party couldn't be bothered to put a better candidate up, and there's representatives like that all over the country.

love the series and the words are exactly the kind that gets craved into stone... thank you, Aaron Sorkin !!!!!!! many many thanks

Really, really nice job with synching the voice to video, it almost matches 😊. I'm always grateful for people allowing themselves to be compared to others. While some will take the time and embrace trial and error, the end result is a seamless presentation without differentiation from the original. This fine example breaks from convention shoving pure 💩 and placing it to the public as a equivalent. I bet you have a trophy shelf filled with mediocre symbols of some interesting achievements that would rival any MAGA memorabilia collection.

For those against corporates and billionaires buying politicians and judges, ask your representative about HR1 act which had provisions on campaign finance reform and disclosures on dark money donated by corporates and billionaires via super pacs and 501c4 political advocacy nonprofits.

The term limit is not about not trusting the voters but about fearing people in power would rig the election to stay in power forever, but with just two terms, it’s not worth the risk.

Term Limits Now!

"You asked me to buck him up" "Now I'm telling you to leave him alone" I think it was around this moment when I began to realize Josh was indeed, the Democrats WarDog. He's like an animal you gotta reign in and hype up once in a while when the game gets REALLY afoot. And the best part is that Josh knows he, he's proud of it...and loves every minute of it.

Being from Minsk, this scene didn’t age well

Maybe it’s Aaron Sorkin who should run for President as he imbued all of the virtues and vices of his West Wing characters.

Bradley Whitford is goat.

Daría mi mano derecha por que retomaran esta serie.

The moment with Josh speaking to the Senator on the phone demonstrates why we still, in 2022, need flip phones, because pressing an End Call button after telling someone off just doesn't have the same effect. "Hi Senator, why don't you take your legislative agenda and shove it up your ass" [boop].

So if i change that means they can change for you to.

'the call?' 'on the cell' lol looking back, it's kinda funny some of the writing. but that is where tech was at the time. but the BEST show ever on television. I miss TWW

I love how he ends it with how many guys do you think it takes both knowing there where 8 founding fathers

Such an incredible show!

Ever since TAXI, Christopher Lloyd has been "hitting it out of the park" behind the camera and in front. He's had a busy career.

I never knew Christopher Lloyd guest starred on The West Wing...

Does the constitution have a clause about rent?

Terrible to note that Belorussia is now a horrible dictatorship.

Grammar!! "You are THEY" and NOT "THEM" Go apologize to your English teacher!!