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During wake up or block you have to hold up and cancel the first frames of the jump animation into any special move, to make this possible it is better to make the special move motion and almost ending it with the up motion so you'll be able to cancel the jump by pressing a button in the first frames, just look at the inputs visible in the video

@@outpancake7073 yeah that's what I was looking at. It looks like you are not pressing up first. Are you saying you buffer the special motion first and end pressing up afterwards in the first available frame then pressing the button after the jump is 1-2 frames into it's animation?

I still haven't fully understand this tech then, it is cancellable with Marisa hard Quadriga tho so I think most (if not all) characters' special moves should be cancellable into it, although it's very difficult to achieve consistentely I think this should be remove and fixed asap.

+4 grab is possible, it will work like 0:50 (with 1 frame delay on wakeup, you have default one throw invincible frame on wakeup) But for +3 grab, you can't do it with general special move

It is possible to jump cancel with any character with any special move. (Except for ↓↓ SP command) Standard and non-standard characters have different ground-to-jump frames, it takes 4F for standard to move to air status and 5-6F for Gief and Lily. Also jump cancellable frames are 2F for standard and 5-6F for Gief and Lily. If you are using a pad and tried hadoken then input ↓➘→➚ + P, you still have 2F to cancel forward jump for usability No need to know the details but +5F oki grab - Gief＆Lily: 4F to cancel, Standard: 1F +4F oki grab - Gief＆Lily: 3F to cancel, Standard: 1F exact lever and push (non-practical) +3F oki grab - Gief＆Lily: 2F exact lever to cancel, Standard: impossible To sum, its only possible to punish +5F oki grab for standard character but gief and lily are much easier (still hard and lose to delayed grab) ****exception with characters with somersault command***

@@user-xl7lb2wo2w It is possible but you have zero margin of error. Just like 0:50, you MUST input UP at 2nd Frame of a wakeup then press button at the 4th frame.

@@Jonnypinny yeah, i think this tech is OP on those charge character and Gief/Lily. For me...at least i know it's better to delay my throw at +5 oki

lmao 😂Funniest fact I found this kid on a cabinet today and he ran and left the battle hub before the match even started !

Tbf he is masters, not saying he’s good just saying he’s better than most people watching

Charged heavy fwd knee after ex uppercut?

Or spacing dependant after jump ins

I think you could do it in season 1 too, but I discovered it recentely. It depends both on spacing (just because if he's too close Marisa could whiff it) and reaction, hitting the opponend on the peak of its jump does the trick. There's an optimal damage version of this punish using the double knee and combo from the s2 buff, I did it on a recent match which I'll probably post in the next compilation,glad you enjoy the vids!

@@outpancake7073 love the vids man excellent work

It depends on the height you hit the target before the corner swap, there's an height where you can charge immediately

I'm gonna drop a quick video about some corner swap set ups soon 👌

The DR catches the back dash/roll

Stg. In Plat 4 rn with her and I don't even consider charge fierce or roundhouse against any shoto with meter. Almost exclusively have to safe jump setup

More like “Levi-AH HELL NAW”.

The wake up reversal came out because it´s the CPU programmed to do that but in a real fight, the opponent would certainly lose their charge when they face the other way and that can also include missing opportunities for supers that require charge like Honda lvl 2. I would say this would be most effective against charged characters or when fighting FT10 so the opponent has that in mind and he tries to guess from which side you´ll attack.

@@OkamiRD cool, thanks a lot for explaining

Watch some of his replays it stumps so many ppl.

Never underestimate the power of doing something real fuckin weird in a fight

3:22 smart bruv. 👌