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Wow, a little late to the show, but just discovered this channel and have really enjoyed a couple of random episodes so far. A great balance of philosophy, observation, humour, depth, personality and perspectives. After ditching TV 20 years ago, I appreciated your cable cancelling anecdote... "What? Are you Amish?" LOL! Looking forward to more episodes

Interesting book review. I currently have this one on my desk. The answer to your nitrogen problem has an old solution. The three sisters. Corn, beans and squash. The beans put nitrogen back into the soil. The squash provides shade to hold the moisture and the corn provides corn!

I'm not choking up...fuck you, well done!

First few lines of The Song of Roland sung... czcams.com/video/FOwFnBar4bk/video.html

Stick it in my veins!

The rabbit trail about the war uprooting individuals from their communities hit hard. A veritable melting pot...sounds like Hell.

Listening to this podcast in a post-COVID world makes me weep for what has been lost. The collapse of education in the United States is horrifying and I don't think we, as a nation, will grasp the full magnitude of the damage for at least a generation, possibly several generations. Fortunately, we live in an era that we are able to gather the necessary resources and soldier on individually or as families and I pray that will be enough to stand against the dark times ahead.

I wish there were more episodes.

leo strauss > persecution and the art of writing

I've been on a Patrick Deneen jag lately and I get the feeling that Deneen would find Holmes to be too Baconian.

Interesting discussion! Enjoyed the deep dive. I do like the book, but I can understand the criticisms you had. Will be checking out your other discussions!

Gieghers boyfriend killed the chauffeur for killing Gieger.

Great except for guest Joe Rogan Jr talking about irrelevant stuff

This is an ideological interpretation-poor scholarship. It would help if you were careful. Diem, to this day is honored by Christians, particularly Catholics. You guys fall into a trap that many of us, Conservatives to the right, fall into. You judge the past based on secondary sources and presentism. Diem had the mandate from heaven.

A woman!? *hiss*

Listening to Scott Karl is an indication that I have been in despair all along.

Metaphysics is something you do when you're over 50. Because you don't have much else better to do

Any attempt by China to take on western powers would be a disaster. Look at their history, they can't fight wars against competent opponents.

Highly suspect edit when talking about kissiniger

This show is super good

Everyone says this book is funny, but this book thoroughly disturbed me. Nothing made me smile. The part where Rachel gives last rights to the Abbot made me break down. The ending sentence was the most bleak I've ever read.

Jeremy Brett was the goat

What happened? Where are the new episodes?

It was a success because it did positively affect many students and it ultimately was shut down which provides a window for us to see what is real about where we are.

The land fills will provide

Great discussion! But … you guys know that Kant wrote a book on beauty and aesthetics right? It’s really good.

This is a really great Convo. But re violence. I don't think it's right to say "homer shows them die." But this was auditory. Nobody was shown anything and depictions of death were prohibited on the stage. So I must disagree that the Greeks thought citizens should be shown violence

Thank you!

Not a great book? You are WRONG!

Great podcast! Thank you!

When Agamemnon is taking Achilles prize: it's the age old debate about who deserves the most credit...the star quarterback or the head coach. When I watched the documentary on Michael Jordan ("The Last Dance") I got the sense that he is a modern day Achilles. That type of person has always existed and will always exist; a true warrior that is willing to sacrifice everything for immortal glory.

Freedom is sloppy but it's better than the alternative. Don't forget that as you both slide right past socialism and communism, deep into oligarchy/technocracy...

You need to read Hannah Coulter by Wendel Berry, he captures the women's perspective beautifully. He covers what is a marriage, and whether pushing our children to college is actually wise... He also covers the concept of "place". Very complimentary to John Seniors Good Life. How many other " ogb buzzwords" do I need to use to get this book on the infinity pile? The beauty of a simple life is captured.

lol “salt lick”

You might be interested in a treasure trove of recordings made by Mr. Senior and Mr. Quinn after Mr.Senior retired. The tapes were largely unlistenable (buried treasure!) until we applied recently available enhancement technology. We invite you to hear what classes sounded like to those of use who were fortunate enough to enroll in the IHP. We should point out that the professors are "unplugged" on these tapes so you will hear things that we didn't hear in the University of Kansas classrooms. www.youtube.com/@IHPRecordings

Another book on aesthetics worth discussing is 'The Dangers of Beauty : The Conflict between Mimesis and Concupiscence in the Fine Arts'

(1h 17mins) "If you reject the idea that things are good in and of themselves then heirarchy is impossible" While chatting amongst friends I often find myself butting up against what looks to me like a reflexive relativism. If I utter a word like "beauty", "truth", "virtue", "goodness", very soon someone will call into question the very notion - "well what is virtue anyways?". I don't mind the question or getting into the discussion (though it always seems to get abandoned just as I'm getting warmed up!), but I begin to wonder about the effect of this rejection of values on their lives. It seems to me they might struggle with focus and direction in their lives and have a hard time making a decision and sticking with it. One good friend has such a hard time that he suspects a mental illness diagnosis and seeks some pills. That's entirely possible, but I really wonder if less screen time, a little quiet contemplation and an acceptance of a heirarchy of The Good wouldn't be more to the heart of his problems.

Interesting podcast. I read Starship Troopers in my early teens, and I re-read it every few years. I found the movie profoundly disappointing. Verhoeven was far from clever in trying to make his Leni Riefenstahl parody--nobody got the joke. A straight-up adaptation would've garnered the same criticisms as the book attracted, but at least it would've been enjoyable. A couple of comments about your presentation: I completely disagree with capital punishment. Aside from the fact that real governments are imperfect and often corrupt (would you like to be tried for your life in, say, Iran?), mistakes are made. If a man is wrongfully convicted, I'd rather pay reparation to him after decades of imprisonment, that agonize over his wrongful execution. The cost of warehousing criminals is the price we pay to call ourselves civilized. In Heinlein's "perfect" society, all crime--including political corruption--is deterred by the threat of violence. But if that were true, then wouldn't the aforementioned Iran be free of corruption, and free of crime? Why bother having a vote at all in this veteran-run paradise,since all veterans are, by definition, perfect? The idea that Dillinger would've committed suicide had he been cured of whatever was wrong with him is rather ironic, considering that the government bends over backwards to provide Federal Service jobs for anyone, regardless of their disability. Since Heinlein himself was a veteran, I doubt very much that he suffered from the delusion that all veterans are perfect human beings, so I also doubt that he believed that his Starship Troopers world was even possible. A final thought: I realize I'm writing this 3 years after this podcast was created, but it seems to me that now we are about to see whether or not giving the vote to every citizen who is of age is a good or bad idea.

Karl, “if you’re immersed in the everyday….”. Sounded like a theme from Walker Percy

Good work uncovering the real Greeks. What they strike me as and the reason they seem so alien, is that they are unadulterated, purified, Social Darwinists - the right of might to do what it chooses, because it has a superior bloodline. Very much like the Mongols. In this, they are the anti-thesis of most of the faiths of today. And the reason the world seems so awful is that we are being descended into it by the monied Oligarchy that run the central banks. Who were also behind, as per General Smedley Butler, the Vietnam War.

36:10 Let's go! 🤝

What a great selection. Thanks for the review fellas.

Thank you!

Thank you, Scott and Karl. God bless you both.

Parson Weems was a writer who wrote a blo of Washington. I think that is where the cherry tree story comes from. I think that there was also one about him tossing a silver dollar all the way across the Rappahannock.

I still occasionally listen to this one. Not sure if this is the best episode, but it's up there.

And, if the North and south seperated, would they not both be competing for the rest of continent? Which way? Slave or free.

Im on the last book in the 4 part series. I really liked the books. Its a good view of a post apocalyptic world. Most post apocalyptic stories are extremely negative and offer little hope for anyone. Kunstler paints, which I believe, is a more realistic view of the scenario. He shows how humans can be self organizing and how they reform local communities.

Wow incredible dialog, so real and grappling with the facts, so intelligent. I am from India, actually Centennial and Chesapeake were the few books that made me want to migrate to the USA. So I was having this shoulder surgery and ordered from here and there: thriftbooks, abe books, ebay the 3 pacific books, tales, return and rascals, I am fascinated by Michener’s compulsion to spread out human experience from his circa. You guys remember the characters better than me, remittance man, harbison, fry, nellie(?). Anyways it is nice to hear you guys reflecting on the book.

At 34:40 you are very much anti-slavery, at 37:10, you say the U.S. government is not contractural, which means, if you cannot join or leave voluntarily, you ARE a slave of the United States government ... yes, as you point out, under threat of violence otherwise, just like blacks of the south were. So, to support the United States government, not that you have much of a choice, is to support your own slavery, like it or not. However, acting under coercion and threat violence, as Spooner points out, is not evidence of 'consent', and neither are you 'free' to consent. Regarding the "national debt", at about 47:00, the DEBT is owed by the Federal Reserve ... because it is THEIR "NOTE" (debt, liability) ... given INSTEAD OF THE GOLD AND SILVER (actual MONEY owed, not the "fiat CURRENCY" of the FR given)... they should have paid out to the American People, for the Bonds (debt, liability) they claimed to have 'purchased', with their "promissory NOTES". It is the Federal Reserve which is in debt to the tune of $32 trillion to the American men and women. Which is probably why THEY are pushing for a "monetary RESET". "... because it's for YOUR benefit and safety."