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How Dingoes saved my property and helped my cattle business - David Pollock, Landholders for Dingoes
We are aware that Dingoes sometimes prey on cattle, but this hasn't been the case on Wooleen. Despite always buying very poor cattle (in order to fatten them) and despite recently buying them one month before a drought was declared (when the price of cattle was very low), and the drought continuing for the rest of the time that we kept them, we had zero instances of attacks on cattle by Dingos that we know of. There were no bite marks or missing tails on any of the calves.
The reason that we thought we had no instances of attack is because Dingoes only seem to attack cattle in a situation where the landscape is degraded, and during a drought. This is due to a lack of nutritious forage for the cattle.
A lack of food leaves the animal weak, and having to walk long distances from the troughs and windmills in search of food. It is very uncommon to have a full grown animal attacked, but attacks on calves are much more prevalent.
The relationship between cattle and Dingoes is the same as that between foxes and sheep. Foxes will eat sheep, but only when they are so weak that they may well have died anyway. Foxes will eat lambs, but only if they can catch them when their mum is not around.
As apex predators, Dingoes are important in maintaining the environmental health of our landscapes. Increasing evidence from scientific research and from on-ground observations by land managers show that they can be valuable partners in agriculture.
They reduce over-grazing by controlling kangaroos and controlling, in some cases locally eradicating, feral herbivore pests (goats, pigs and rabbits) and carnivores (foxes and cats). By maintaining Dingo populations on their properties, graziers will additionally benefit by a reduction in the costs, time and frustration spent in the often unsuccessful effort to control them.
It is acknowledged and recognised that for sheep and goat producers, Dingoes in a district can have severe impacts unless there are active measures - not necessarily lethal - to protect these smaller stock.
To learn more, visit: www.landholdersfordingoes.org
The reason that we thought we had no instances of attack is because Dingoes only seem to attack cattle in a situation where the landscape is degraded, and during a drought. This is due to a lack of nutritious forage for the cattle.
A lack of food leaves the animal weak, and having to walk long distances from the troughs and windmills in search of food. It is very uncommon to have a full grown animal attacked, but attacks on calves are much more prevalent.
The relationship between cattle and Dingoes is the same as that between foxes and sheep. Foxes will eat sheep, but only when they are so weak that they may well have died anyway. Foxes will eat lambs, but only if they can catch them when their mum is not around.
As apex predators, Dingoes are important in maintaining the environmental health of our landscapes. Increasing evidence from scientific research and from on-ground observations by land managers show that they can be valuable partners in agriculture.
They reduce over-grazing by controlling kangaroos and controlling, in some cases locally eradicating, feral herbivore pests (goats, pigs and rabbits) and carnivores (foxes and cats). By maintaining Dingo populations on their properties, graziers will additionally benefit by a reduction in the costs, time and frustration spent in the often unsuccessful effort to control them.
It is acknowledged and recognised that for sheep and goat producers, Dingoes in a district can have severe impacts unless there are active measures - not necessarily lethal - to protect these smaller stock.
To learn more, visit: www.landholdersfordingoes.org
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David Pollock from Wooleen Station in WA discusses the benefits of retaining Dingoes in the landscape. Covering over a quarter of a million acres of picturesque Outback, Wooleen Station is a cattle station that is playing a leading role in preserving and sustaining the unique ecology of the region. As apex predators, Dingoes are important in maintaining the environmental health of Australian la...
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Gill Campbell owns and manages Claravale Station, north of Mitchell in south-west Queensland. Claravale has been owned by Gil’s family for four generations. Gill has been managing it since 1983. Wild Dingoes are a key part of Gil’s cattle business. Gill believes that cattle producers throughout Australia should always work with the land and nature and consider the advantages of maintaining Ding...
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STOP KILLING DINGOS - They lived here first
STOP KILLING DINGOS - They lived here first
bloody good one and good news that this important information is spreading to and being adopted and practiced by land owners
Interesting how it wasn't the sheep wearing down the pastures, but it recovered as soon as you took the sheep off. Then kept it clear and unwatered for 4 years to kill off any remaining animals. And used government and community support to make improvements to the station. But it was a dingo that did it?
As domestic dog breeding influence modifies dingoes it will be interesting to see if the low level of calf predation is affected. Escaped pig dogs are likley to include attack breeds, many which feature in hospital reports. If they establish the goalposts might shift.
No need to cull dingoes get two-three LSG's , Kangal is recommended as their heat tolerant, have a very affordable working diet.. their size and power is enough to deter Dingoes.. they deter Eurasian wolves and when Turkish farmers brought them to certain countries in Africa.. it reduced live stock predation from Lions, Hyenas, AWD's & Leopards(which were also killing and carrying of the Boerboel and Rottweilers they were originally using(which required a higher cost diet anyway) and in return it actually reduced the killing of African Wildlife by like 97.8% or something.. Since poisoned bait and shooting was no longer required. How can our government be so ignorant to not learn from history.. Europe, Yellowstone, etc. where ever a major predator was removed.. the flora was over grazed, animals would die a long starvation or their population became so inbred.. they were genetically defective.
If you stop baiting, trapping, shooting and exclusion fences the problem goes away. It is my direct lived experience that if you leave dingoes alone they always prefer to take a wallaby, roo or emu before taking a sheep or calf. If you leave dingoes alone they STOP attacking livestock. It's very hard to get graziers to stop doing what their father's and grand father's have done for 100 years.
great video mate!!
Lines of trees across the land will also slow the flow of water, it will hold water in the soil for longer. Just plant all native fruits and nuts, like the native desert walnut. This desert walnut tree produces both nuts and sweet sap. A row of trees every 3 to 4 meters, with grasses in between. You'll could a mint selling the fruits and nuts, plus the grasses feed all the cows. This permaculture technique is well worth a try on a few acers of land to begin with.
That god farmers are like you exist and helping educate more farmers, czcams.com/video/zHC2rEjJsQo/video.html
Your comment about foxes only eating weak or unattended lambs is not correct, they are a nastier than that. In 2007 I was losing up to three week old calves almost every other night with no sign of cause of death, just dead in the paddock or under a fence, I skinned one calf and found it had lots of fine teeth marks around the neck, hips and shoulders. That night I shot seven foxes and ended the run of dead calves. It appears they were a family group of foxes working as one to distract the cows while pulling down and killing the calves and dragging them out of the paddock, no physical sign of attack until you remove their skin. The foxes were not even hungry, there was nothing being eaten. We are in a much different terrain with small paddocks so the target for the foxes is greatly contained, even if the cows had left the calves while grazing they would have been within a couple of hundred metres at all times and usually a couple of cows would stay with a mob of calves at all times. If foxes are capable of this thrill kill behavior I imagine Dingoes would be too, once one gets the same idea the pack would soon learn. Keep your new calvers close to home!
This is one of the worst Australian rural videos I have ever seen. And some of the comments like the guy trying to support you by talking about wolves being reintroduced into Yellowstone are just so unintelligent it beggars belief. A few facts. Dingos are not an Australian native animal. They are just another human introduced feral species. The only difference being they got here a few thousand years before we brought in foxes rabbits and all the rest. And a few thousand years is the blink of an eye on the evolutionary time scale. Our native marsupials had no chance to evolve to have any chance against dingos. Which is why they were so beloved by Aboriginal people. Because they were so good at killing bilbys, roos, wallabies, you name it. As for wolves in Yellowstone, they evolved there with the rest of the wildlife like elk for millions of years. so there is no comparison with dingos here. Another trick of trying to justify one wrong with another wrong, like dingos eat rabbits, is laughable. Just get rid of your rabbits. You may mean well or just be a virtue signalling idiot, I don't know. You should take this rubbish down and hang your head in shame. As it is you sound as bad as moggy lobby who don't want a cat virus released, who mourn the loss of our native frogs, birds and animals, but who refuse to look into the stomach contents of not just feral cats but also their domestic cats. You're just as off the planet as they are.
Coyotes, wolves and foxes could do the same in America, but of course ranchers have eradicated them because they haven’t figured out a better way to protect their cattle (which are not indigenous to the American continent).
Obviously feral cats and foxes get taken out. It’ll be interesting to find out how the dingoes are doing in terms of reducing feral pig numbers given the damage they can do. Especially when you consider a similar size predator in the US is constantly shot by ranchers in areas where they’ve got huge feral pig problems. I can imagine feral goats for a dingo must be like their birthday. In the sense, same size as a sheep, but you don’t get shot for eating one will also have to wonder not only the predation, but also the threat of predation has meant the kangaroo and Wallabies aren’t necessarily loitering around the same pasture the whole time. Meaning but unintentionally the dingoes are causing rotational grazing like the wolves have done in Yellowstone. Plus by rotation the grazing it’s moving from one dingo territory to another borders which will be maintained. Because they’re not being shot every five minutes, those borders are more secure, which means you’re not having a fresh batch of dingoes coming into the territory Every five minutes. Which then, in theory reduces the amount of predation on livestock.
Us have had Alot of native animals go extinct as well the native American Indians managed the wolf's hunting them for fur for warmth and so all the smaller animals they eat didn't Go extinct ignorants is not good management what seems great for Fora might not be good for fawna and vice versa
Makes sense. Canada exported 100's of Wolves to the US in Yellowstone Park and now the trees grow and rivers run clear and there is a balance. After being in your beautiful Country....once you learn to farm flys you'll be billionaires. I learned the Ozzy Salute when I was there lol!
Foxes, rabbits and cats add _more_ diversity to the land. They need to be protected, not eliminated! What are you, some kind of bigot?! Or are you one of those evil, nasty marsupial supremacists?
Now all we need is a predacious beast that sorts out human interference with nature.
Wolfs have a similar affect wherever they are re-introduced-we have too many meat heads in charge out west to understand this
Really interesting. As a few people have already said, it's similar to what happened when they reintroduced the wolves in USA. Also, in another life and another country this man has a distinct air of the Fred Dagg about him. RIP John Clarke.
We need some killers in the system in order to save it. Interesting.
the very same thing happened in the Yellow Stone Park in the states after the introduction of wolves . it just goes to show you shouldnt mess with mother nature.
You know it's easy to be depressed by Australia's generally very poor record on the environment. So it's refreshing to see some top Aussies being clear eyed & levelled headed about a predator that once most farmers would have shot on sight. Perhaps there is still hope that this beautiful country of ours may recover if more graziers get on board with this type of clever management. I get that they are a problem for sheep but controlling goats & to some extent foxes & cats is a really good step in the right direction...WELL DONE!!!
In Western Queensland sheep country, wild pigs are the big problem. When an ewe is on the ground lambing, the pigs eat the butt out of the ewe to get at the lamb. The sheep usually takes a long time to die. No one could blame dingoes. There just aren't any there.
This man is beyond the outdated mentality of his fellow men, he is a true visionary. I am grateful that there are ranchers like this in Australia and I hope many more like it will appear in the future!
If only numbers of people could be managed as effectively as this!
no one is going to mention the fly that crawled up his nose? and the man didnt even blink
czcams.com/video/-1CqNEU-At8/video.html maby take some advice on dingos taking cattle calves from someone it happen to
That was incredibly interesting. Thanks :)
It's that balance thing, more is not always better!
they are stealing babies?
Australia?....you mean Terra Austraialus ?
Just keep them away from the kids
Get some donkeys to protect the cattle. The donkeys do not like coyotes and dogs, so they would most likely not tolerate the Dingoes either.
Very good film. In areas here, southwest US, where predation pressure is high, ranchers are turning to traditional cattle like Texas Longhorns and corrientes. Polled cattle are too easily chased away from their calves and many ranchers sill running them can lose like 15% of calves to predators. Mexicans like corriente and other local longhorns and will tell you, yes they have jaguars, mountain lions, wolves, grizzlies, and so on but don't have a problem. With longhorns, it's predators who have the problem. Like old Mrs. Marks said, God made the Longhorn, man made the rest. Again, good film and very educational.
Top predators have remarkable effects on their ecosystems. Wolves in Yellowstone are another example.
It's well known that making cattle move help to fertilize the soil because they, walking on the grass, put it into the soil. That's also a difference between cows and buffalos in the USA.
I couldn't help but try and shoo those flies away.
Very interesting. Thank you
Interesting that the Dingo isn't native to Australia. It was introduced by South Asian migrants around 4,000 years ago. Actually, the aborigines were locked in a stagnant, Middle Stone Age existence for at least 40,000 years. The Late Stone Age didn't begin until the South Asian DNA showed up in their genome. The ancestors of Australoids were part of the first dispersals of fully modern humans from Africa around 72,000 years ago. They split from the main group around 58,000 years ago and made it to Tasmania and Australia by 50,000 years ago, picking up the DNA of Neanderthals, Denisovans and another extinct hominin along the way. So it could be stated that they started off as fully modern humans, but by the time they settled in Australia their behavior was less than modern human. They were relatively isolated for at least 40,000 years.
I'LL STOP YOU THERE !!!.. "FOR MOST OF ITS HISTORY" THE ABORIGINES LOOKED AFTER THE LAND... TILL WE STARTED USING IT AS AN OPEN PRISON FOR CRIMINALS !!!!!
You my friend are the answer. Thank you for this vid. Love it. Well done
Thankyou, great video and story!
Everyone is aware that dingos are an introduced species?, responsible for the extinction of the native predators that were here before them. They are the first introduced feral pest. Your argument equates to "why not let lions go on your farm, they keep the grazers down". Do you celebrate cats and foxes? Or not been in Australia long enough.... once the goats, roos and other poor native animals are driven off they will predate on your stock. I have 20 years of living on the land trapping, baiting and shooting pest animals, foxes, cats, pigs and dingos.
Sorry in advance, this turned into a bit of a yarn. David Pollack - excellent video mate and well commentated. I’m feeling very proud of you after watching this video. I’m an Aussie (Sydney boy) but as a teenager, had the privilege to work on a 5000 acre cattle farm for a couple of summers mustering cattle etc in Coonabarabran, NSW - nothing compared to the size of your farm, but it was massive to me. I now live in Toronto, Canada and have lived in Nth America for 22yrs and work in AI and Data and Analytics. This is a fantastic example of letting the data tell the story. You didn’t make decisions based on ‘feelings’ and myth or bias, you made smart and wise decisions because you analyzed the data and you looked at what the science was telling you. Then you acted and have added value to an amazingly rich family history - one of legend I’m sure. I love it! Sounds simple but if more people just looked at the data rather than making decisions on bias and feelings, then we can evolve as a species so much faster. Apex predators have been proven time and time again to be absolutely vital to every ecosystem in which they exist. From dingoes to wolves to lions, sharks, crocs, orca…the list goes on and on. I’ve always missed Australia, your station is in some of the most inhospitable land farmed anywhere in the world and you find a way to make it work. ‘I love a sunburnt country’. I see so much negative news coming out of Oz lately, it’s good to see some forward thinking and engaging content. Thank you David and all the best in your quest to drive the legacy. I wish you rainfall sir! 💧⛈🐄🤠
Pretty sure you didn't get all the food residue off your camera lens.
Weird, you mean to say…. not disrupting the delicate ecosystem actually helps the overall habitat and environment…. Woooow, such a novel idea. It’s almost as if nature has some how magically figured that out. 😳
Dingoes are also an invasive species so, like, stfu.
czcams.com/video/e81a5TE7C6E/video.html this is what the dog lovers forgot
Cattle men are the reason we have so many extinct small animals When it was sheep country the diversity of animals like numbats Bilby small kangaroo's was way Higher before unmanaged dogs were let to roam around buy cattle men predetors were managed bye indigenous people they didn't let dogs Just kill everything or they would have starved ignorants is not good management
It seems like a pretty cool guy and this is all really interesting. I'm glad we are learning to do a better job of balancing the needs of humanity against the environment