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No. I just jump in and go. I search for chargers when I start looking like I need one. Integrated car GPS have basically sorted that aspect. Only reason to plan is the same as in an ICE car - plan to get the cheapest fuel. I know motorway services will charge about 20p more per litre of diesel than my local supermarket, I also know rapid chargers at a motorway services are more expensive than an AC charger at a supermarket.

Mine doesn't use propane - it doesn't use gas at all ...

As a sparky this video is so terrible honestly Nick is a decent guy but he’s making up so much bollocks in this video

Electricians are not scared of existing consumer units Nick. We are always happy to wire back to the main consumer unit if spare ways are available. Switchgear outdoors or in meter cabinets is not the way either. Labour of £100 per EV charger is a few multiples away from reality of professional installers. Maybe ask the car sales person if the car comes cheaper if we put the wheels on ourselves. We can apply this logic to all sectors if we allow erosion of value. If consumers cant afford electric vehicles or the infastructure to charge them that isnt because electricians or manufacturers are ripping them off. Its just a reality of circumstance. If you want something safe and reliable to charge your electric vehicle well I am afraid that costs. Typical supply/installation prices are £1200+ minimum. Unless you go for a manufacturer or energy retailer provider and well the results from those efforts are plentiful one or two over on my CZcams channel. #liftothersup

My first thought is that people that drive less than 30 miles per day could just get by with using a 3-pin plug to slow charge their cars. Now I need to go watch Nicolas' other video on the subject! 😎

EV chargers have sod all inside them. You could replicate it with a 25A connector, a raspberry Pi Pico, a few yards of cable, a socket and a box, oh and 300 unnecessairly bright LEDs. I don't mind paying a Sparky for their skills and their costs, but the boxes themselves are a rip off.

I asked Ocotpus if they would swap my old charger to a new one following the closure of my car manufacturers api. They wanted the full whack price and would not discount the installation, despite everything being there from their previous installer and it being potentially a half hour job. I bought the charger from a wholesaler and had a local ev installer fit it for £100, saved £400.

Nick, At one point I would say it was a nightmare with just 50KW chargers but now more 150 & 180 kw chargers are springing up it's getting a lot better we just need more Tesla open to all available as they are brilliant. Alan B

I'm guessing 80% of people have a nonstandard home / electricity supply. My meter is under my kitchen table concealed inside a kitchen bench/seat. The space is so small that the leccy company won't even fit a smart meter. I'd need ground works, a pole mounted charger and works to bring the leccy into the adjacent cupboard. I'll just stick to the granny charger on an industrial extension from the garage with its own consumer unit.

Don’t forget the costs of running the latest transit custom van and time taken to slag off any existing electrics that has been working quite happily for the last 25 years……

Which charger works with octs @ £450 please

I can tell you now electricians are idiots when it comes to pricing, for some reason they feel the need to give away their skills for next to nothing. This sector is a race to the bottom and the customer isn't get ripped off, they are however on a lot of occasions getting crap installs. They use a separate board mostly because it's quicker, and you are not meant to mount anything in the meter box as that belongs to the dno despite what anyone will tell you, the dno can make you remove any equipment you install in there. As for the devices you mention they are not exclusive to EVs, and unless a manufacturer specifically requests certain things they don't need to be installed. You can get a BG charger for £329 plus vat, you didn't mention vat in your costing EV ultra cable is around £6 P/m plus vat. Also, if a person can afford to pay upwards of £40k on a car they can afford £1500 to charge the thing, especially when they are only paying 5% vat on their fuel and no fuel duty so in all they don't have it too bad really.

Well the granny chargers have the same ground fault detection as the 7kW EVSEs so they won't connect either if there is no ground present.

People spend at least 25K for an EV but all the sudden can’t afford a few thousand for the charger… Come on people this is not the time to be cheap. Unless the idea of your house catching on fire while you’re asleep interests you, it’s probably not a good idea to buy a budget charger and pretend you’re an amateur electrician. I think we’re going to start seeing people dying because of this. This isn’t like replacing the cord on your lamp.

You are not supposed to fit anything inside the external meter box. So technically splitting the tails and putting something in the box is a no no. I doubt anyone cares though.

The brake down of costs is tragic , any sparky working For 100 quid is useless and letting the customer do some of the work is even more tragic

You forgot to mention that the device EVs plug into is not actually a charger. It is just a special connection with lots of safety gadgets in it that provides power to the car. Charging is done within the car Not by the wall box.

An EV has a battery which can deliver a lethal voltage under fault conditions, not only to the owner but to neighbours. Most household appliances don't include a power source that can be fed back into the supply, hence the need for sophisticated fault protection.

As an electrician that runs a company that installs EV chargers points, please be aware we have to install these to the latest regulations. It’s not correct to say electricians split the tails and install an additional fuse onboard to avoid getting involved with other peoples work. We need an SPD (surge protective device, a Type A RCBO and the installation’s additional load needs to be applied to the DNO to get permission to connect them to the grid. All the EV charge points we install have load limiting so it will nearly always get a YES back from the DNO. This is a legal requirement so needs doing. A lot of the comments sound like they aren’t being installed to the correct regulations and as a business, we would never do this. I hear feedback from clients saying they have got it installed cheaper and it’s usually as they haven’t installed to the latest regs of got the correct approval from the DNO. With electrics, you tend to get what you pay for. Hopefully this comment will be taken as helpful advice and not as a general moan lol.

The charger is in the ev itself, an “ev charger” is just a power socket with some safety circuits. If it were chargers the price would have made sense. For smart outdoor power sockets it’s just crazy

Put down the mouse buddy 😁😂

Brought an old tethered pod-point off eBay £150, some 6mm T&E cost £50, 40A MCB £20, replaced RCD with type AC £40. If some spark wanted to spilt my supply at the meter I'd tell him to sod off, I have a decent consumer unit with plenty of space put in for a reason. I see you can buy brand-new Masterplug units for £400/450 from screwfix now, I expect we will see those go lower.

Do electricians really charge only £200 per day?

Key cost missed out here, most people with EVs are also running solar, and this type of kit plus the charge units having a DC component need ideally a new type of trip, RCDs wont cut it. So by the time youve replaced your house main board, and put the charge unit in you e basically negated the whole point of the EV supposedly being cjeap to run in the first place. Best case youre lookong at about £2,000 from what im told. That 13 amp pkug seems fine now IMO.

They are not chargers, they are just an electric vehicle supply equipement (EVSE), the charger is in your car and I don't care how you try to justify the cost they are well over priced. I installed mine for less than 200€, yes doesn't have wifi but my car has lte/wifi and an app so can control and program all i need from there.

I'm not sure your information is correct . Let's take going to wholesaler, so he is only going for your items. Let's face it that bul.sh.t. I said to my sparks can you match octopuses price he said thats easy .

The cost of the installation is outrageous for generally what is a pretty straightforward electrical job. Not using the existing fuse board seems insanely cautious. Not to mention most wiring can be tested if there are doubts. My father an electrician was visiting from Canada so I had install an EV charger on the todo list for him (to make sure he wasn't bored 😁). Sadly the wiring to the garage wasn't sufficient and due to the fact it's buried under my resin patio (where I have no idea) so he upgraded the socket in the garage and we are making due with that.

£70 for a CP Fusebox EV board with SPD.

My an Easee charger has been connected straight to my distribution board. They just added an 40amp fuse to the empty space in the fuse distribution board. The guy said that it is not needed to do the tails for that installation and to put a new fuse box because it's just a 7.4 KW charger. He said that my cooker is using more KW than that and no one is panicking about it. One year gone and so far so good.

Looking to partex my podpoint solo 2 for a charger that's intelligent compatible. Would the new charger be able to use the existing cabling and CT clamp? It's taking an irritatingly long time for podpoint to get their act together, so which is the cheapest intelligent compatible unit? Thanks.

So, I’ve had an EV. Whilst what you’re saying is true there are many issues that for me prevent EV’s from being viable. No unified approach: I have to have multiple apps for the various charge providers. It’s inconvenient. Messing around with dirty grimey charge cables in the rain sucks. Putting said dirty soaking charge cable into a bag then into your car sucks. Messing around with pre planned charging and various tariffs is rubbish. 15 mins is great if you have a Porsche, but even then it’s not 1-2m at a petrol pump. I just don’t think it will ever match the convenience of petrol. Why we didn’t adopt hydrogen is beyond me. Range anxiety is a real thing when manufactures lie through their ass about ranges. Future resale value is honestly, at this point, abysmal.

I'm still not sold. The lithium mining isn't to be ignored either

Sorry mate , you don’t consider all other factors , ev charging is a nightmare

Although it's getting better there is still the queuing time to get onto a charger to start with , especially down here in Devon when all the grockles come and our population swells

Thanks. I literally changed lanes and changed back to get the indicator off. Totally ridiculous. Now I know.

How bi reflector works. The sun beams pass through the front of the panel and are absorbed as they pass through the back not bounce around between the roof and the panels.

3:00 in australlia they should place north facing solar panels. this guy dont know what he is talking about.

No, people should not be obliged to accept this.

Also the highway code says you should take 45 minutes break, stoped and out of the car for every 4 hours of driving. So make that 2 x23 minute stops. On a modern 250kw charger, that is 10-70% twice. Or about 350-400 miles range added, so another 4+ hours of driving.

It wasnt even wet ffs

How do i know whether im set up to control the charger or the car? I have a Zappi 2. Id like to buy a 2nd EV but im converned it wont work on the new car if its set up on the car API.

We are only on our 3rd car since 1982 all bought used and our current car (which we still consider as our "new" car) is more than 4 years older than the oldest Leaf ever made. Only time will tell how EV really fare.

Been trying to get Octopus to fix my smart meter after they fitted it 3 months ago. Without it working I can't get a battery or solar. The whole economics of it hinge on having a smart meter...

Have you done a video on the Evec EC01 home charger?

Did Octopus Energy offer you Sunamp product instead of the hot water tank?

Not having one full stop and they can’t gain access to my property without my permission anyway

I glued small dome rubber buttons 1/2”, over the flat turning indicator buttons. Now, it’s easy to feel, find the location of them without looking.

Wiring a two gang socket with a single 2.5mm T&E is the most dangerous thing in this video!!! LOL....

Is anyone doing battery only system to go along with Tariffs like Octopus Go to charge up on cheap overnight? What is the best super cheap battery option as no solar to offset the cost. Saw fogstar 15.5kw battery for £2500 ….. but can’t see to find many videos on it

If I’m doing a long journey, I get in the car, enter my destination in the sat nav, then look for a charger waypoint about 80mi away. If the chargers are good, I’ll charge, if not I’ve got enough juice to look around locally for a place to stop. For reference I’m driving a 40KW Leaf.