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That would be great, rollers would be very traditional, but unfortunately it would be impossible from the boatyard. I had a meeting with a crane company this morning though and things look fairly positive, awaiting official confirmation though.

@@buildingladygarnet can you sling it at 45 degrees to get the beam to 11 feet

Is the space in the lift

@@peterradclyffe8056 Peter, once again, really good suggestion, which I appreciate! But again, it wouldn't be possible at the yard. It's not only the hoist that isn't wide enough, the actual hoist bay is very narrow as well. But it's fine anyway now! I have had an email this morning from the mobile crane company confirming that they can lift the boat in, swinging it out past the hoist bay. It will take an enormous crane and getting it into the yard will be tight as our road is quite narrow as well, but they have confirmed that they can do it, which is wonderful news.

@@buildingladygarnet do you understand what i am saying, tilt the hull at 45 degrees

Haha

@@buildingladygarnet 👍 my moto’s “Aim to please - shot to kill - take no prisoners” 😳🤣🤣🤣🤣

Not a silly question at all! So there's a few ways to do it. One way is to "shoot" the bridge. Basically you keep sailing until you are very close to the bridge, then drop sail and mast quickly and your momentum carries you through. Wherries, particularly when laden with 40 tons, will keep going for a long ways! Another way is to pole the boat along with quants. Or you can switch on the engine in the dinghy like we did, but this is not the traditional way! Using chains like I suggested is only good if you are going with the ebbing tide in Yarmouth, it would not work against the stream of course.

That was my first time seeing the Reedham rail bridge, and my first thought was, that could do with a lick of paint, couldn't it!

@@buildingladygarnet For the rail operator it's a bit awkward, so out of sight and out of mind perhaps ....... ? A deep maroon maybe ? Regards

@@ourfarmhouseinspain Indeed. I've gone over the bridge dozens of times on the train and it looks fine from there! I like the idea of maroon, that would be nice.

@@buildingladygarnet The next message will be from the rail operator: ' Thank you for your interest, and we'll be happy to let you tackle the work. We will pay the going rate and supply the paint and brushes, but you'll need to bring your own stepladders. When can you start ....?'. Regards

Haha! Well, I'm pretty well qualified at painting, so if they do get in touch, I just might take them up on the offer!

Very true, I quite enjoy sailing in the rain (except the day I forgot my waterproofs... haven't made that mistake again!)

Thanks! I'm not familiar with the pushboats, I will have to look into them!

@@buildingladygarnet Google duwbootje. They are steel, about 3-4m long with a single cylinder inboard diesel

Thanks, will do!

If you have been here before you will know that Albion is the inspiration for building Lady Garnet.

Boatbuilding will be back in the next video. But I do post some sailing videos as well.

If you are only interested in boatbuilding why watch a video titled Sailing the Norfolk Broads on the historic trading wherry Albion? Good riddance.

Thank you Maurice! :)

Haha, Yes Minister is a fabulous show, and I'm inclined to think it's very accurate! I will try to do a video update on the dinghy soon.

Yes, will do! I've been carrying on with work on the dinghy, but have been so busy I haven't had much time to do filming/editing. But I will make it a priority to do a video update on the planking soon.

The problem is, having already done the pre-application advice, the only way I could re-open the discussion would be to actually submit the application, which is not cheap. Considering how unlikely it would be to succeed at this stage, I think it's better to just make thing work with the boatyard. In some ways the boatyard is a better option anyway, just so long as I don't have to scale down the boat size... Hopefully I will know the answer to that this week!

Thank you! I'm getting impatient to actually start some proper work, but you know how it is, the bigger the project, the longer the prep work takes!

Thanks Jake! Hopefully I will be able to confirm the dimensions next week.

Hello John, you are certainly not alone in this view! I am a quanting enthusiast, and there are skippers for Albion who are very keen to keep using the quants, I think in this case it was decided that as Yarmouth can be quite deep, the quants would not be very effective. I think the proper way would have been to use chains, but those are definitely not very popular! I have never gotten the chance to use chains. I certainly intend to use wind, tide and quants as much as possible on Lady Garnet as I like to be traditional. That's interesting about Uranus, perhaps someday she will be raised. I am strictly a wooden boatbuilder though so it will have to be someone else! :)

Not heard of Uranus of Bargate before. Is she in the bay with the other wherries?

Thanks, although I don't think I need any elm at the moment, and I haven't anywhere to store it, which is the main problem! Once I build the tent for Lady Garnet I will be more on the lookout for timber.

@@buildingladygarnet just to let you know my woodyard is riverside at bottom of docket Eddy Lane shepperton.

@@surreyarborist Thanks! That's not far from me.

Thanks for all this David. That's an interesting point you bring up, that they might have been worried about setting a precedent. I did laugh (in a pained way) at all the talk about how my little temporary tent was "harmful" to the greenbelt, knowing that it's likely that in, say, five years, that entire field will have been sold and turned into a housing development, probably regardless of which government is in power. But it's all fine, if the mobile crane company have a look at the boatyard and confirm that they can do the lift into the river from there, then I can go ahead and build Lady Garnet full size. And yes, the Broads are tempting, I love it there, but... my job is on the Thames, and also I'm not sure it would have been any easier to find a place for the build in Norfolk.

Yes, it's an odd thing that anything that's up longer than 180 days is legally regarded as "permanent."

@@buildingladygarnet I supose is same in all Europe, but I understud this. U can be honest, I can be honest, but for custom worker all nead to be equal and lot of people are no honest. Longer then half of year is dificult for clerks to veryfy. Lot of people will put trailers or other „temporary” shead or cabins to live in it pass the permit. In Poland we have problem with this in for example valuable for tourism and recreation places. Is one of reason I will have problem with thos 100m2 tent, is on popular kayak river.

Very true. It's the people that try to cheat the rules that make it worse for people like us.

Thank you for this, really good to hear that! I am hoping to have a meeting with the crane company next week and will hopefully have an update soon.

This was the thing that annoyed me the most. We were told that if the owner wanted to build a permanent farm building, the same size as my tent, in the exact same place, it would likely have been approved! Now, how does that work... The trouble with not asking is that if any neighbour complains and the site gets investigated, you're in major trouble. Fortunately, the boatyard is probably a better location anyway, so it's all good.

Yes, of course!

Thank you! I forgot to mention it in the video, but the exit road at the boatyard is only 12 feet wide, so there would be no way to get Lady Garnet out by road either! But I'm pretty sure the mobile crane idea will work, hopefully will set up the meeting with them next week.

Quite true. My biggest concern with the original location was the neighbours across the street, so yes, I think the boatyard is a better place.

This is nothing to do with Nimbys. As there was no Planning Application there would have been no Notice posted, and so the public would have been unaware of the proposal. It is entirely down to the local authority working within their own Planning Policy and the National Planning Framework. As an architect this is the sort of stuff I have to deal with all the time, and frustrating as it is, these sort of decisions are why we still have some countryside left.

@@MikeAG333 You are correct, it was entirely the decision of the LPA. Personally, I'm a keen supporter of the greenbelt, and I didn't feel that a temporary tent was a problem, because after I finished the boat, the land would have reverted back to exactly as it was before. I even gave them a specific date. Meanwhile we have planning applications being accepted for permanent buildings on greenbelt floodplains with chalk streams (and yes, that's an actual thing that happened a couple years ago in our village, and is still a sore point for many of us). So it was very frustrating to see that complete lack of consistency.

He had to move from private property to a boatyard after building for a few years.

I haven't got his phone number! :)

They had some great songs! :)

Thank you! Another video is coming soon.

Hello Alex, height is the issue for standard shipping containers, as they are usually around eight feet tall, which is too high for Lady Garnet. So yes, she will carry break-bulk.

Now that's interesting. May I ask, are these barges old vessels, or newer builds? In the UK, vessels built before a certain year (1967, I believe) are not necessarily subject to the same rules that new builds are. At least, that's my current understanding of it.

@@buildingladygarnet I play cards with a retired (lady) skipper & I asked her today. It's not dependent on the age of the ship, nor whether it's on the canals & rivers or the Schelde & IJsselmeer. Ships are marked with an eik (Plimsoll line). Water up to the den (hatch combings) is OK. For practical purposes you still need to be ab le to walk along the gangways.

@@rowejon Thanks for the info, it seems odd that the Dutch and British rules would be so different, I will have to have a further talk with the British authorities to make sure that they have given me the correct information.

I have found a knowledgeable fellow who tells me that sail #1134 would probably have been built in 1958, which is just two years after the class was founded!

@@buildingladygarnet thanks!

@@buildingladygarnet it really is incredible that these old boats are still going, she is still completely structurally sound (besides for some smallish quantities of rot) any idea how on earth that glue is still holding,😂 there is one aspect to these old holt styles i dont understand, what practical us do those enormous decks do ( besides looking pretty;-) seems to be a desighn feature in many holt desighns

@@buildingladygarnet eg gp14, enterprise, heron, solo, merlin rocket, and others

@@buildingladygarnet any idea what glue and fasteners would have been used around that time?

Thanks for your kind words Tom, glad you are enjoying the build. You bring up an interesting point, as there is something of a debate about whether it is easier to build a small boat right-side up or upside down. At the boatbuilding college I went to, all the boats, both clinker and carvel, were built right-side up. John Leather, in his book on clinker boatbuilding, recommends building right-side up, as he claims that it is easier to judge how fair the lines of the planks are right-side up. Also, building upside down means having to turn the boat over to put in the steamed ribs/timbers, and there is a risk to the boat's structure during the turning process. But I am sure there are other boatbuilders who will argue with these points! Ultimately... I've done it right-side up because that's how I was taught. :)

Thank you!

Hopefully I won't be on my own all the time, but even so, you are quite right, it will take a long time on the wherry! I do tend to use a combination of electric and traditional tools. I really love roving the traditional way, but we'll see if I still feel that way after the first 1000 nails!

Thank you Frank, that is indeed an excellent suggestion, much more accurate than just eyeing it every time!

Excellent suggestion, way better than just eyeing it every time.

@@buildingladygarnet I subscribed also

@@k9six185 Thanks!

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Cheers Tim!

Ransome went on to write twelve books in the series - the one you are thinking of is We Didn't Mean To Go To Sea, which is my sister's favourite!

The current plan is to rent a section of land from a nearby farm, provided that planning permission is granted. It would have been great to build her at the boatyard I work at, but unfortunately the two access points (the slipway and the road) are only 12 feet wide - and Lady Garnet will be 16.

You and me both!

🤣 Good one!