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Registrace 4. 04. 2024
Can Cobra One Length Irons Help a Mid Handicap Golfer
Hi All, this week I am going from one end of the spectrum to the other and trying out Cobra One Length Irons a week after trying the Taylormade P7MB irons in my last video. I love the theory behind these clubs but can they help a mid handicap golfer shoot better scores. thanks :-)
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Will I keep the P7MB irons in the bag??
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In this video I am now considering if the P7MBs should stay in my bag after another practice round, and will they actually help me score better as a mid handicap golfer. enjoy the video :-)
Can a mid handicap play P7MB blades?
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Hi, In this video I choose a cold day in April to answer the question: can a mid handicap play blade irons. hopefully this could improve my ball striking and produce better scores, and if not a least they look really cool ;-) enjoy the video!
How a mid handicap golfer can shoot lower scores
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Hi, in this video I talk through the 4 key things that I do when trying to shoot lower scores as a mid handicap golfer. These are things that I have learnt over the years either from others or from trial and error. hopefully you enjoy the video. Thanks Ross :-)
Chiltern forest Golf Course Back 9 Holes
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Hi, this is the follow up video showing the back 9 holes at Chiltern Forest golf course. The poor putting continues but I was striking the ball well so hopefully you enjoy the video and it gives you a good look at the course.
Should a mid handicap golfer attack or defend to shoot lower scores?
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Hi, in my second video I am testing if I should be attacking the course and chasing lower scores or if its better to defend against wasting shots in my quest to get to single digits. hope you enjoy it and don't forget to subscribe and like :-)
I really want to try some one lengths.
When switching to single-length irons, forget the various distances your conventional irons give you. Start fresh. Copy down the corresponding distances of your new irons. Of course, the respective distances will be different from your old clubs. Accept it and forget it. With single-length irons, you'll essentially be playing the same club for every swing. The distances will be longer or shorter depending on the club you're holding. Your position at address stays the same for every iron. Why is there such a controversial argument about single-length irons? Among golfers whose thinking isn't constipated, there isn't an argument. Trying something different takes patience, time, intelligence, and an open mind. If these fundamental elements are missing, you'll never improve your understanding of diversity. Single-length irons make more sense than a conventional set of irons because they eliminate the need to adjust your relative position at address for each club. If you're comfortable with the pitching wedge in a set of single-length irons, you can now swing all of your irons like they are a pitching wedge.
I think there’s a huge misconception between handicap and irons. They certainly play a part in what you should play, but your handicap should never determine what irons you can play. I’ll take myself for example, my first irons were butter knifes, thinner than pretty much any iron out there today, and I played them for years. My handicap is less about my iron striking and more about my inconsistency with driver and wedge game. Also turf interaction is a huge part in determine an iron. Some players need thinner soles or atleast a dole with a hood bit a trailing edge relief. Sure blades can hurt you on your misses and that’s likely what would hurt a higher handicap. But for someone that strikes their irons consistently, they can easily game a split set of blades and maybe 770 or 790
I have multiple sets of high end Japanese irons. Love them all even though each set is different in specs from each other. The last set I was using a lot was my Honma TWX hollow irons. Great clubs. Bought the Cobra LTDx one length on a whim last summer. Took awhile to get used to them. Went through some of the same issues you did. Kept putting my Honma’s back in the bag and would go back and forth a bit. However something clicked one day with the OL’s. Now I’m shooting my best scores and most consistent golf of my life. Total confidence in these Cobra’s now! I pulled the ball in closer and have more of a single plane swing with upright body position ala Bryson. I’m hitting with more compression than I ever have and hitting absolute bombs. May get the Forged Tec versions of the OL’s just because I’d prefer less offset and a more lofted iron to gain a bit more spin around the greens. Overall I can’t go back to standard irons now. Just love these. I’m a 8 handicap and have shot multiple round just under par with these.
I started with the F7s, and after several rounds had that same moment where it all clicked. Got some Forged Tec OLs earlier this year and they’re amazing. Don’t hesitate, pick up a set
I switched to one length and I absolutely love them. I only have 60 to 5i in one length. My hybrids are normal length.
those irons are working well from what i can see. you should keep them. my $0.02
i believe there is something in the theory we focus more with smaller irons.
Gaming the previous P7MB since Jan ‘21 and LOVE THEM. My ball striking currently is just insane. 4-PW KBS 120S and compression is key. You’ll start gaining yardage quickly.
I believe you hit the nail on the head. Less forgiving clubs make you focus more and try harder, I think. I recently changed to a forged combo set and I love it
Get a set of wishon. Much better feel bs cobra.
The Wishon's are great clubs. 💪🏻😎🤘🏻
I’d say that you could play those. You hit them really well. I have a few sets of blades I play from time to time because I love the look and feel. I usually get around the course pretty well. There are some days when I’m playing with my regular cavity backs and think thank god I’m not playing with the blades today. That said, I feel like having the blades forces me to rise to the occasion, focus and hit it better. They don’t make me play better, but probably about the same. I realistically lose most strokes on putting anyhow…I often think: should I play blades? Probably not. Can I? Sure, why not? I’m not going on tour.
I wouldn’t mind a set like this with a quarter inch variation starting with a normal 7 iron length.
Got my dream set of Miura KM700 blades. First time out was pretty rough but I'm not going pro so I will give it a few more tries.
I switched regular clubs for the One length F9 in 2019 and I can say this was the best investment that I have made in golf clubs. My confidence went up 100%. Went from a 20 to a 14 handicap and has been as low as 11.6. Just got the dark speed one lenght sand wedge because the shaft on my F9 was cracked. Love it. It does go a little further but the same nice high shot from 110yds and in. I am getting a new shaft on my F9 as it is now my sw wedge around the green. I hope they are working out for you as well as they are working for me.
Awesome... a longtime user of one length. 💪🏻😎🤘🏻
I still play Nike pro combo 8,9,p all bladed I agree about chipping the flat narrow soles are ideal for little bump and runs. The ability to flight them higher or lower and all the common things that get said such as workability are true. I’ve tried various different types of blades over the years and when you’re swinging well and finding the middle of the face there isn’t a better feeling but now to the big negative. Off center strikes get punished massively can have 15 yards fall off in distance easily with an 8 iron that’s sometimes enough to find the trap or miss the green. At the end of the day if someone has their heart set on a set of blades go buy them don’t let anyone tell you they’re not for you. My golf is nothing special I’ve played off 5-6 for quite a long time ball striking is my strength though those irons have been in my bag for 14 years I think in that time I’d say iron play is my strength. I will be changing in the near future to something with a lighter and possibly slightly softer shaft and may just choose a different design of iron but I am 42 and don’t play as often as I once did not because I don’t love a blade. The lofts are generally standard so technically you’re probably not actually losing distance.
Enjoyed this video, recently went to a titleist 690.mb specifically to force myself to focus and play smarter/cleaner.
Mate. You are a half decent golfer, your swing works for you but I saw one put go past the hole. Nice little video tho.
i have a 2022 set *9 handicap and they felt a bit odd at first 4i-6i (rest felt totally fine, i even bought the 56 & 60). Your brain will fight you once you get above a 7 iron (you look like you are standing much too far from the ball like you'd be doing it with an actual 4 iron) and also trying to hit it harder etc.. i feel you, i had a few really rough sessions with them but i did get used to them. I still go back to my standard length here & there (Mizuno JPX tour/forged split set 919). But i dropped a bomb on the fitted set of one-lengths so giving them their chance!
We hope you can hit them one of the most forgiving golf clubs on the market
As a high handicapper i used these for a few months as i thought they would be good for me but it wasn't the case. I found that the longer irons like the 5 iron i was losing distance and when it came to the wedges, it was hard to keep the shots short and just kept over hitting them. So they didn't work out for me unfortunately. - Gavin
I really enjoyed the video, and your attitude regarding the way you look at the game and equipment. I share your view and enjoy playing clubs that would not be anywhere near being recommended for my skill level. I may shoot in the low 80's but, what keeps bringing me back is the 8 or 10 shots that are hit flush with the clubs I enjoy using. Stay with them and enjoy the process no matter what anyone has to say !
One length irons (low lofted especially) play much more upright than standard irons. This will explain the irons going left a bit. You will also swing the 4i harder than the PW because your brain wants the ball to go 4i distance which usually makes the ball go further left. The benefit of OL is hitting the center of the club face more often which should lead to fewer mishits and improved consistency. Takes a while to get used to playing everything the same. Keep at it for a couple more weeks and don’t switch between your standard length clubs and OL. See if that helps.
Great video, I have just started uploading to my channel after years of watching from the shadows😂 keep up the great content 🍻
What is your handicap? You have a good swing and youre shots are good. We are putt brothers however! If i could make a 6-8' putt I'd be decent. I feel like I'm a decent golfer now at a 5.9 handicap. However, you look more consistent than myself.
Thank you, yep my putting is definitely my biggest issue and like you if I put well I will score well. Believe it or not, I'm currently a 15 handicap 😮but I do get called a bandit a lot. I'm hoping to enter a lot more comps this year and my handicap should drop. When I was younger, I played off 6 so I think the swing and tempo probably comes from that. Thanks for watching 👍
U could choke up on the wedge.
What you said at 1:56 was very telling on the process I'm going through, and I found that a driver shaft with half the weight of the irons helps a lot with feel going to and from the clubs. Keeps the tempo smooth, and removes the snappy transition or loading.
Yep that's very true, it is a process with these type of clubs and as you said I think there are a lot of positives to take from it just need to put the work in to figure some things out. Thanks for watching 👍
Played blades from when I was 17 HC 3 years ago, until now and off 10. Knocking the door in medals breaking 80, and it's because of the blades. Distance control is so much better, and modern blades like the Wilson Staff model I play, are really forgiving for what they are.
This is great to hear, and I think this is the route I'm going down, going to stick with them 👍 I love a set of wilson blades as well 😀
@@MidHandicapGolf I’ve used all TM, Mizuno and Titleist blades over the years and the Wilson are the most forgiving.
I had a similar problem when I played my first round with one length, I realized I was about a half ball too far forward in my stance. Once I made the adjustment I have been striping the irons,
That's good to hear they are working out, maybe if I put the reps in I could figure them out better, thanks for watching 👍
Awesome. 💪🏻😎🤘🏻
Spot on analysis, I have a set of 2022 OL. I absolutely love the longer 8-PW. They allow for a very smooth and controlled swing. On the other hand, the shorter 5 & 6, are extremely hard to make consistent contact. As a result most of those shots go low and/or left. Gapping gets tight towards the top of the bag too I'm working it out, and they are getting better. Very odd that the theory and premise around OL irons were that the long irons would be easier to hit and short irons would have less control, yet I have found the complete opposite to be true. For the time being I have a Variable Length 4i on the bag and have been contemplating going variable length 5 & 6 to mesh up with my OL 7-PW.
Yep it's very strange isn't it, I'm sure others must have had the same experience, glad to hear it wasn't just my swing 😂 I love the look of the clubs so it was a shame they didn't perform. Thanks for watching 👍
Great video, started playing last june yet to get my handicap as only joined my local club end of summer (usually shoot 90-95 so would say high handicap) i brought a brand new set of LTDx one lengths about a month back for £300 with graphite shafts Bargain! Deffo been a game improvement for me. In terms of struggling more with the "long" irons id say what definitely helped with one lengths is ball position and playing them in a similar way to what i would a standard 7 iron as thats what the shafts are set to on them...was hard to tell on ball position with some of the camera angles but fantastic content keep it up 👍
Thank you 🙌 yep I think they can definitely help but as you said I would probably need to play about with ball position and potentially get some different shafts. Glad to hear they are going well for you. Thanks for watching 👍
Had same issue, bought 4i-7i couple years ago and I play off 13HC and use Mizuno MP-15 irons for last 8 years and one size I could not get off the deck, felt too heavy on impact, never a cotton wool feeling of puring them. novelty idea and curiosity to try them but wasted money in honesty IMO - ok off tee box but different story hitting off the deck strangely
That's exactly it, they feel almost too heavy and you just can't get a clean strike off the fairway. Glad it's not just me 😂👍
I play P790s and enjoy them. I have a friend that is a PGA professional and plays the P7mbs and he lets me hit them from time to time. I’m a 13HCP but I generally can hit these irons. The issue is always on those three or four inevitable bad strikes that I get during a round when hitting the irons. That is why muscle backs just aren’t right for me. When striking well they are great but I need a bit of forgiveness for the 10% of the time I don’t.
Yes it's very true, over 18 holes I would fully expect that I would get 2 bad strikes and the ball just doesn't travel anywhere if you miss hit them 👍
@@MidHandicapGolf I was surprised, after hitting them, that the irons are only about 5 yards or so shorter than my P790s. I have a set of PTx Pro irons that I used to play and the p790s were significantly longer. So TM did a good job on those irons.
I brought my late 1970’s blades to a Titleist testing center for a laugh to see what they thought. These guys were all college or mini tour players, so I gave them my 4 iron. They all struggled and started laughing their butts off. One put himself on the trackman and said he was 20 yards shorter than his current forged blade 4 iron. Great time
Yep it's a great reality check for people if the haven't used these type of clubs before 😂 👍
I highly doubt that. Blades are blades - regardless of age. There is no "technology" involved.
@@thomasg321 Materials and lofts changed
@@nicolasgioino4544 True
Everybody should play blades, they're not that different to GI clubs and the pleasure you get from having them in the bag more than offsets any slight loss of forgiveness. Loss if distance is a mind-set, it doesn't matter what number is written on the bottom, it's knowing how far that club will go. In my ideal world a 3 iron should be 24° and everything else in 4° steps down to a 52° PW and 56° SW. I choose all my iron sets primarily on their looks, yes, I'm a shallow individual. But if you go back in time there are hundreds of stunning sets of irons to find.
That's so true, I pretty much get all my clubs based on looks as well, and with blades I actually lose very few balls it feels much more under control 🙌
Blades are the true game improvement iron, those that claim to be are band aids.
Very true they definitely highlight any faults in your swing quicker than other irons 👍
Iron forgiveness is mostly marketing mumbo jumbo. Play irons that fit your game and that you feel comfortable with.
Couldn't agree more 🙌
“Because I really like them” that’s the only rationale that matters, we play this game to enjoy it… so play whatever equipment brings your joy
Never a truer word spoke 🙌
Great video, mate. I asked myself the same question at the end of last season and switched to P7MCs from GI irons. It took a little adjustment to get used to them but I'm striking the ball better and scoring lower than I ever have. I don't know if it's the mentality or the clubs but I'm glad I made the change.
Thanks mate, yea it's funny how those smaller clubs really focus the mind and make you improve your strike. 👌👍
Enjoyed the video, subscribed
Thanks buddy really appreciated 🙌
Great review. Your smooth "easy" swing looked the best. Just shows how important tempo is. Keep it up
Thank you I really appreciate it 🙌
"if only I could putt as well I'd start to look like a half decent golfer". Felt that one in my soul, buddy !
😂 😂 yep I literally couldn't get it to the hole all day 🤦♂️
@@MidHandicapGolf It might help if they would mow the greens. Good grief.
@@thomasg321 😂😂😂
😂😂 you only live once 🙌
this may have just convinced me to swap my P790s out for P770s haha!
Which shot tracer app do you use? The one I use barely tracks the ball. Looks pretty accurate
It's called shot tracer app seems to work pretty well most of the time 👍
@@MidHandicapGolf I use the same one, even pay for the pro version. I’m constantly having to manually edit it
@tomwatkissgolf yeah that's annoying, not sure mate. I tend to always set the camera up off to the right behind me and I find that angle seems to work for the tracer, rather than getting too straight behind the shot.
Golf ball bounces more on the green than the cart path.
Yep you're not wrong there 😂😂
I do that about 3 times a round and shoot in the 90s. Gotta clean that up.
Yep I agree it's definitely where I lose most of my shots at the moment 👍
Decent that Ross. Single figures will be no problem for you this season I’d say. Very steady
Thanks buddy really appreciated 🤞👊
Course looks amazing… looking forward to more videos and handy hints ⛳️
Thank you its a great course, hopefully more vids coming soon 🙌