Everyone talks about how Picard's words sting so much in this clip, and rightfully so of course, but a more subtle touch is how much Worf triggers Picard with his "I believe you are allowing your personal experience with the Borg to influence your judgment" remark. You can see a coldness and quiet anger in Picard's eyes after that, and in a rare moment of immaturity, he lashes out with the most hurtful insult he can think of because he hates that he's been called out on his trauma. Deep down, he's never gotten over what happened in "Best of Both Worlds," and he hates that the Borg still have a hold over him all these years later. And then he hates that someone else recognizes it and calls him on it.
STTNG gave me such an unrealistic expectation of how adults should talk to each other and settle their differences. I wish this was how human beings really did act. That apology from Picard just shows that no matter your rank or social standing that friendships matter more than orders and personal agendas.
Worf using his experience from his time aboard DS9 to full effect; He knows when someone is in the wrong, and when that someone is causing issues. He puts his foot down and calls them out on it.
Worf disgraced himself, leaving his commanding officer alone to save the Enterprise. There should have been a scene at the end wherein Worf and Picard addressed that.
This is such an outrage by Picard. In Worf's culture surrender is regarded as dishonorable so by suggesting to abandon the ship he is making a considerable cultural compromise. Calling him a coward in return and thereby insulting him in the worst possible way in his culture is just despicable.
It's interesting that to save face, like a Klingon, Picard has done the right thing by Worf by saying 'regret'. Picard must now spend a long time acting honourably and both must support each other to make up for the insult. Worf, in respect, would also do this. Both cultures recognise that to test and thereby prove a friendship or command structure almost to destruction is proof of it's enduring strength.
These ten minutes of film are among the best that science fiction has to offer. Seeing Picard first freak out and then apologize is an emotional rollercoaster ride.
You call one of the only TWO people in the universe who would WILLINGLY go onto a Borg ship to save your arse a “coward”??? 🤯😆 And I disagree…I don’t think Worf would have killed Sisko either….😏
One does not take command by challenging the Captain while fighting the common enemy. Even pirates know that. Picard was able to later state his 'regrets', because Worf did not wish to take command. Proof of their enduring honour.
I've always had a theory about the secret untold story of this version that perhaps the ghost was the spirit of his child who died Earlier in the story, he has a nightmare with imagery that to me allude to his wife falling pregnant and the child either was miscarried or died in some kind of accident The grief of this caused his wife to fall into her dementia-like state The ghostly woman screaming that she's still there could allude to how the spirit of their child has remained there since they initially died This is just my theory, but one I wanted to share
It’s strange to say as a 40 year old man, but I’ve always found Worf to be someone that I identify with. Duty bound, honour bound and career oriented. It’s lead to lonely life, but I don’t care. I find myself wishing I’d find a woman worth my attention or time. Yet, as time goes on, I find myself embracing my duty more than my personal life. It’s ok to be someone who gives up their lives in sacrifice of something worth it. For the betterment of self and humanity.
I still love picard not even blinking at the threat then telling him to get off his bridge but then you see the moments hestation in his eyes as he see worf go
He's a fine actor, and understands that the camera sees more than a theatre audience. On the stage, he would have had to signal that regret as Worf leaves with a step toward him, etc.
Everyone talks about how Picard's words sting so much in this clip, and rightfully so of course, but a more subtle touch is how much Worf triggers Picard with his "I believe you are allowing your personal experience with the Borg to influence your judgment" remark. You can see a coldness and quiet anger in Picard's eyes after that, and in a rare moment of immaturity, he lashes out with the most hurtful insult he can think of because he hates that he's been called out on his trauma. Deep down, he's never gotten over what happened in "Best of Both Worlds," and he hates that the Borg still have a hold over him all these years later. And then he hates that someone else recognizes it and calls him on it.
Would have been a better apology in public since the insult took place there.
Fake
The finest achievement of tension and perfection
1968 is a slow burn, slow build of tension, and the dream sequence is tops for nightmare imagery.
I love that Worf's face is still plastered with fury even though he knows an apology is coming 😂 you can even see him snarl as he says "some."
1.13 to be fair I kind of think Picard knew he bit off more than he could chew when wolf told him what was up
That was some sweet ass acting...
STTNG gave me such an unrealistic expectation of how adults should talk to each other and settle their differences. I wish this was how human beings really did act. That apology from Picard just shows that no matter your rank or social standing that friendships matter more than orders and personal agendas.
Fastest non-apology ever.
Starfleet captain respected throughout the galaxy who’s pretty much seen and done it all: “…I think you’re the bravest man I’ve ever known.” 😍🥹
Worf using his experience from his time aboard DS9 to full effect; He knows when someone is in the wrong, and when that someone is causing issues. He puts his foot down and calls them out on it.
Worf disgraced himself, leaving his commanding officer alone to save the Enterprise. There should have been a scene at the end wherein Worf and Picard addressed that.
"if you were any other man i would kill you where you stand". This is the answer to any question anyone asks me, ever. 🤣😂
I was so relieved when he apologized, thats not a seed of resentment you want festering while living in an isolated community
Michael Dorn. What a fantastic and undersung actor.
This is such an outrage by Picard. In Worf's culture surrender is regarded as dishonorable so by suggesting to abandon the ship he is making a considerable cultural compromise. Calling him a coward in return and thereby insulting him in the worst possible way in his culture is just despicable.
This made this movie a great one
Raymond Conlon. Picard says that he "regrets"; regretting something is not an "apology".
It's interesting that to save face, like a Klingon, Picard has done the right thing by Worf by saying 'regret'. Picard must now spend a long time acting honourably and both must support each other to make up for the insult. Worf, in respect, would also do this. Both cultures recognise that to test and thereby prove a friendship or command structure almost to destruction is proof of it's enduring strength.
These ten minutes of film are among the best that science fiction has to offer. Seeing Picard first freak out and then apologize is an emotional rollercoaster ride.
I remember watching this scene in the cinema and the whole audience gasped when Picard called Worf a coward. Such a great film
Great film even today
i can't agree more. When a Klingon says "go," it's time to go!
You call one of the only TWO people in the universe who would WILLINGLY go onto a Borg ship to save your arse a “coward”??? 🤯😆 And I disagree…I don’t think Worf would have killed Sisko either….😏
Nobody calls a Klingon a coward, and lives to tell the tale.
One does not take command by challenging the Captain while fighting the common enemy. Even pirates know that. Picard was able to later state his 'regrets', because Worf did not wish to take command. Proof of their enduring honour.
"some"
Worf would never run away so easily.
Picards worst moment. But in a way kind of his best
Is anyone else watching this because of South Park?
What movie is this
That one statement from worf shows the awesome level of respect he has for picard
Movie picard really is a whole different character.
Picard f*cked up & he knew it. He needed to work on that.
Oh my. I had forgotten how terrible Action Picard was.
This is the gayest thing I've ever seen
Must have lived quite the sheltered life then
What episode is this from?
A movie, Star Trek: First Contact
Lily bought Picard to his senses
Sooommmmme!!!!!???? Love how WORF said that.
Once again, Worf is the voice of reason, and Picard ignores him.
On TVTropes, the trope 'The Worf Effect' had become so normal, that this movie went some way toward rehabilitating him.
I've always had a theory about the secret untold story of this version that perhaps the ghost was the spirit of his child who died Earlier in the story, he has a nightmare with imagery that to me allude to his wife falling pregnant and the child either was miscarried or died in some kind of accident The grief of this caused his wife to fall into her dementia-like state The ghostly woman screaming that she's still there could allude to how the spirit of their child has remained there since they initially died This is just my theory, but one I wanted to share
It’s strange to say as a 40 year old man, but I’ve always found Worf to be someone that I identify with. Duty bound, honour bound and career oriented. It’s lead to lonely life, but I don’t care. I find myself wishing I’d find a woman worth my attention or time. Yet, as time goes on, I find myself embracing my duty more than my personal life. It’s ok to be someone who gives up their lives in sacrifice of something worth it. For the betterment of self and humanity.
episode?
The second TNG movie, _First Contact_ from 1996.
😮😅😅
The greatest Star Trek movie... yes better than WoK ;)
Gates was absolutely smoking in this film.
I still love picard not even blinking at the threat then telling him to get off his bridge but then you see the moments hestation in his eyes as he see worf go
He's a fine actor, and understands that the camera sees more than a theatre audience. On the stage, he would have had to signal that regret as Worf leaves with a step toward him, etc.
This gave him the courage to challenge Gowron in the end
He's so lucky Worf didn't kill him.
Gates McFadden [Beverly Crusher] is gorgeous!🔥💓
Picard has some BALLS saying that to Worf.......and living to tell abt it 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣