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Wow really cool congratulations 🎊 congratulations for ya both 😊

Something I like too reflect and keep in mind when looking at the south and north American area's is that due to isolation the longest as large as they are man himself was the less biologically genetically diverse on the planet at many thousands of years.......these continents are delicate in many ways and it is our responsibility too protect everything possible.......while it is just the conditions it is the real issues isn't that enough and all there is too it?.....😊

Well I was thinking again about the need for gene diversity in wild turkeys and I wanted to see some support for my idea too enhance it like trying too relocate them too each other and so on......well I found a research told about in Purde university news it was old research....they explain their effort in gene testing they did and conclude it could probably become the number one biggest factor in wild turkey disease and decline or demise perhaps......there were no suggestions......I know relocating wild turkeys for this seems daunting but we have had relocating practices in many states during the restoration and we got it down so my idea of mixing the gene pool as much as we could figure out would be dynamic......I'm going too add that our subspecies were formed due to isolation of geography and weather that arranged them for very long periods and some rejoined which reformed another so we got like 5 total in conclusion I think they could even take more mingling then just same species but that's kinda way out there....history is the learning experience and the present is for advancement too take what you've learned and create corrections or better conditions....and then keep repeating as quick and often as possible......😊

I thought of something I haven't saw or heard of but very possibly might have been done by people is if you want to burn an area that hasn't got a real lot of burnable under brush maybe too help get some fire on it go get some old straw bales or whatever and spread it out and then burn.....there's usually tons of old bales around if a guy could get them......😊

I saw mossy oaks gamekeepers podcast new episode just out in the last couple days which I like btw and they had a fire episode also😊....but anyways too add something about the hogs is that when they burn and chase them out and shoot them off the hogs have a fear of fire and they don't come around for a month or more if they do the ones that lived....😊 so that experience tells the story of what fire can do to help displace hogs.....another thing I always like too mention too is the tick control it really lays waste to ticks and really slows production of young.....that's one reason we have so many ticks these days is the loss of fire on the landscape.....😊

Ran across a challenge that is presented by wild hogs that I thought I would add just because I thought it has a fairly high impact in burning and really aren't favorable anyways......but for burning they eliminate alot of understory which besides keeps beneficial plants and tears up the ground even can eliminate the ability too burn entirely......😮could be part of an important plan in planning anything initially.....plus I've saw stuff before they can prey on turkeys eggs so on a so forth........I've saw on previous episodes the problem with hogs on lands for good management......and they were not originally in this continent so they were not an object ever in relationship too wild turkeys.....😊

It's interesting what stores history hides in this case I found old history which precisely supported what plain Ole wildlife managers and field workers in states and a newer dimension organizations with wildlife biologists trying too find the right ideas too give the turkey a long lasting future.....it's the best way vs. just saying stop hunting or do programs that aren't effective... because a growing approach Is dynamic its popular because it makes turkeys and allows growth for hunting that so many cherish..........and we learn from it all....😊

I more or less think we have a finite ability too create turkeys and habitat.....wild turkey science is impressive imo...we can do alot and secure a number of growing wild turkeys if we want and undoubtedly should while resources are left they are a great bird.....too us it looks like alot but how much is that going too be??? We can do it just takes elbow grease and of course savy to prolong the effort...😊

Basically things have fallen between the cracks in history in all the comotion and were having to reeducate ourselves for wildlife management well and protect and reintroduce some wildlife.....but for those interested in this what were doing is well worth doing.....😊

Harvard says native Americans burned in a one too three year cycles it greatly aided deer and turkeys and berry's as well as gave them increased visibility and the ability too hunt with bow and arrows much easier......they did this maintenence extensively some they name did it says for thousands of years!.......😊

Yea that opening gobble is quite good......😮😊and that narration the ecology of wild turkeys.....😮😊

Well I know they did use fire for turkeys as fact as I posted on last episode we know from history as there were many relationships in different regions between native Americans and New arrivals basically I'll say and all different depending on places and people.....but I think that maybe when they found a good solution too immediate care for turkey because it was a highly consumed thing in localized areas the practices too make it sustainable would have been a popular thing.......😊

I would venture too say that fire use is by far nationwide the farthest behind for addition to our restored turkey flocks...in fact I wonder if the turkey was a big motivator for fire use throughout mankind's history??? I know it was a good tool for growing crops but when it could enhance turkey production would it have reached a new dimension??? Turkeys may have been more of an influence because it was so close too man......😊 Good episode 😊

Thought I'd share this since I got on the gene pool thing and by no means did I mean to deter the main theme of this episode I just sorta swayed.......but I was doing some reading and it seemed at some point in time native people to the north and south american continents experimented with fostering the land scape vs. domestication with captive turkeys they found that the reproductive results in captive turkeys was very poor.....thusly related it too isolation as a result....I didn't see anything on disease.....but fostering the landscape for turkeys which include everything we talk about using today fire and so on was the successful approach and always afforded year round sucsetenance of turkey.....the arrid southern regions are harder too foster and where more recorded domestication were attempted....it tells me that lack of genetic devirsification will definitely reduce brood results with the dynamics related to reproduction.....😊

Very helpful for Land Managers!!

I am so happy to have found this channel! I am going to listen to it all now. We have wild turkeys on our land, and I want to actively manage it better to encourage them to live here longer-term and have as many advantages as they can. ❤

Another thing as we recall previous episodes it's known that females clutches are containing commonly 3 or what maybe 4 different male genes.....based on the strong ranging behavior during mating it would also suggest that gained gene pools may be in mind and egg swapping be a way too divide it wider again through travel from the chicks....the hen makes it happen during her time too accomplish her mating desires before she stops too nest and hatch somewhere....so basically the gene pool is always churning and insuring themselves with resistance to diseases....it seems more plausible since that's what gene devirsty does than it being for fun.....😊 let the turkeys roam and we can help give them the ways.....😊 hey if helping get them bugs might be something how bout some habitat tooo😮......😊

I know there has been newer suggestions that the genomes are more flexible than ever thought and have an ability too adapt for protection that's been a hard conversation for some years now and I've seen people who have boiled it down too few or several years adaptation I always thought it would be much longer if it all vs. the basic manufactered dimension because it usually involved humans but in much shorter lived wildlife it would probably be there wouldn't be alot of time if it would ever exist in their event.....I think what it boils down too is too introduce the event if it needs that effect and is determined viable too perform.....😊

Well I think the studies would tell me it's likely the female wild turkey knows too travel as I said an average of 15 miles and male slightly less because they know they can lower or totally eliminate actually replicating genetic disease caused from breeding too close proximities......we know this happens in many species.....so looking at both aspects the gene diversity is what I believe they want....😊

The habitat controversy for bug analysis part was interesting later it made me think man will always position his habitat or adjust it too feed itself and would that lesson the importance for turkeys because they have been largely overlooked for over a century......of course people that like and respect turkeys don't want that and would improve and preserve habitat for insects and inhabitants areas for turkeys......it's the aura that allows the controversy too exist.... Imo any living thing especially what fed us once for existence and sustenance isn't anything too have any controversy about especially since it is in a restoration process after a close event of near extinction its really near unimaginable that we would do any thing in the future too inhibit strong and steady progress.....of course I knew that wasn't the idea.. 😊

So I looked at some really good studies on Rio grande and the average range for females which have a farther range than males was 24 kilometers which is 15 miles and is normally in the spring the males is lesser seemed like around 20 percent less.....it probably depends on the actually need too range which this day and age could be more for habitat in large states.....but regardless some how my other comments got under my other self assigned name from youtube..didn't see that comming haha and just now noticed😊

I was reading an article several years ago where in Texas they had some turkeys radio fitted and in a short time one had ranged 40 miles....I'm not sure in a long time just how far they could go but they would have probably ranged unlimited when there wasn't a reason too have to turn back or stop...but I think they were probably quite good at wandering around for various reasons and they are a curious bird...so the gene pool probably got good exposure.....the one that went 40 miles in a short amount of time I recall was a Jake they released.. 😊

Yea that's some good studies.......put that in a really nice turkey habitat......I was thinking about how slim the turkey gene pool could be after restoration of them...I was thinking that after the studies of wild turkey diseases and things they carry are all known from the microscopes eyes maybe taking same species from as far apart in gene pool analysis can know and try intermingling different regions and so on and so forth.....of course that could be a ways off but the growing pains with the need too respectably achieve a bigger flock nationwide needs too think of everything if you ask me.....I liked the part about the 2 year study after cicadas I would also think that nutrition level carrying over......Great episode btw...😊

I appreciate what you fellas are doing! I work for UT Extension and my focus is forestry, wildlife, and fisheries. The topics you guys cover are the things I try to provide programming on because I feel like so many people, even outdoorsmen, are totally oblivious to the things you guys discuss.

Appreciate you men and what you do. I’m sure you guys sometimes feel repetitive or like you’re not making a difference, but i base everything i do on yalls podcast. Thank you for all the info!

I love this bird❤

Excellent video. Important information presented in an easy-to-understand format.

Extra special episode, I'll check out their website.

Get rid of coons, you will have more poults!

This was a great episode! Yall are very informative.

If you was at a Culvers they have great burgers! Thank yall for what you do to educate us.

About 10 years ago I planted lavender color beebalms because they grow better wild and they did and they now spread miles out around from where I first planted them and I'm noticing that they are setting the queens Anne's lace back real good which I was happy too see that stuffs useless insects don't even seem to like it...but the example I'm trying too show is that they can become pretty dominate and they look great and all insects love beebalms plus they are cause q lace and even wild mustard set back now as a big plus.....😊 but there are alot of things you can do if you put your mind too it......😊

Yea i even use to sow in different varieties of trefoils there kinda like a low growing clover/alfalfa more or less in that family...as i said before i was working for a big seed company and i tried all sorts of things through many years but i liked trefoils....the wild quail habitat blend really would be the main thing if i was going too start with and you could always improvise....once you get a start if you were like me you'd wanna keep doing all kinds of things😊

Here’s a thought that came up from the idea of winter food plots that are not planted into a summer food plot. If the hunter towards the end of the winter could go to Dollar General and buy $20 worth of the wild flower seed boxes that they carry. It would give the pollinators and diversity to the plot. Just an idea.

I met Lovett and even had a hunt at his camp in Fl. I would love to hear more about him and what was considered state of the day science at that time.

Great episode! Lots of great information.

While fire, roller crimpers and seed drills are all great tools for regenerating land the #1 tool from mother nature is a large dense herd of herbivores grazing, trampling, urinating, defecating and then finally moving on and letting the land regenerate. This keystone ecosystem process was the dominant landscape disturbance before the end of the last ice age and plants evolved with it for millions of years with animals like elephants, camels, bison, horses, antelope, wildebeest, etc throughout practically every terrestrial ecosystem on earth.

Interested in specific best plants for poults and turkeys in general.

I thought that what would be perfect for turkey brood habitat a burn down and then a wild quail habitat blend planted in and then what ever maintenence year after year.....another thing I thought of many years back was using gibberellins which stunts growth and there are types for a wide range grasses,fruits,vegetables and then use it at the right time or mow you know I didn't try it because my fields have milkweeds but I was testing a friend about trying some but didn't really hold too much weight so that didn't happen.....but I have another friend that maybe the wild quail habitat blend might interest.....I'm getting urbanization pressure and I just have all butterfly habitat now but I might eventually get into a better position.....let me know.....what about that???I think both those ideas are pretty slam dunk and not very intensive.....😊

The fact that you only found 30 nests should have spoke volumes. I have hunted Ft Bragg and Ft Benning for decades and both are on similar burn schedules. The turkey hunting on both are very poor at best. You guys are soooo biased towards habitat that your work is becoming very unbalanced. Point blank predators wiped out most of the nests.

An after thought about California the state has alot of rugged area not that farmable and arid but good turkey habitat and they did manage too make alot of turkeys now....but alot of states have very usable land for everything and I think that is where we have to stop and think about not taking all and making sure wildlife gets a share...i think thats the eventuality that will happen in some states....hopefully the public realizes it before two problems get pushed into a corner...I think people with wildlife concerns and want too set aside land anywhere they should get a tax break or incentive whatever ya know😊

I was reading an article about California's history of turkey reintroduction.....started in 1877....many failed attempts for decades and decades like around 50-60 years....goes too show you how hard it was...turkeys aren't really an easy project and now we have a growing concern with things getting tipped against them again like shrinking habitat and trapping shrinking and all the other obvious things....I think it's right for turkeys for tomorrow's wild turkey science too keep them in the light as much as possible😊we can even make a better situation for wild turkeys if we want too I mean really it's only just begun when you have room for potential you have time too excersise the options and we have that.....we need too establish the places and security for turkeys while it's still available 😊😊

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really enjoy these episodes, I've started doing some brood habitat improvement because of your information. 5 star rating.

Really nice episode. What I'm doing now is cleaning up known nesting areas from invasive bush type stuff and transition area from the field edge and woods too get out the unwanted new trees or types that aren't wanted.....also opening up those buffer areas that they like too come out of the woods and be by those semi open areas because that makes them comfortable and keeping them from invasive brush helps and unwanted trees as I said otherwise they won't come there and so basically you repel them from your property.....if it's a travel corridor it keeps nesting turkeys near too and expanding and you can expand and enhance more area for more turkeys....😊

I was recalling when Dr. Gulsby said if we can identify problems and try too figure them out by looking back while we may not ever have time too implement ways too correct them at least we became aware...that is the way we have had to live with the situation of wildlife not being important enough to give more effort and resources to and that's not right....I'm optimistic that will change....turkeys fit into this category precisely I think and we need too give it as much as possible too insure their success....😊

I was thinking with as many individual people many which have been discussed in the series throughout the episodes many more will become....it's possible for the public too do great things for wildlife in many ways probably on a bigger scale by far than the wildlife agency's and wildlife organizations because as we've saw many of the people I was referring too have done things where it either failed or were not addressed....just like recently universities are being invited to national wildlife agencies....it's easily recognizable what many of plain Ole people have too offer and can do.....😊 I just know.....😮