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Joseph Manton ! A man told me 50 years ago they were sought after and pricey

It's worth fixing up. It's more than likely 1860s or newer. You can shoot 2 1/2 in shells in them

Wow!! To quote Sir Winston Churchill, "“It's a riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma…”. First off, I highly doubt it's an authentic gun from Joseph Manton. He was, above all, THE master gunmaker of his time. No one else made guns to his level of quality, beauty, fit and finish. His guns were especially noted for the level of superlative engraving. His guns were not only excellent firearms, they were the utmost expression of the gunmaker's art and his prices reflected that. By Manton's standards, the engraving on this gun is amateurish at best. Even the name "J. Manton" is crudely inscribed. Joseph Manton most often inscribed his guns with, "Joseph Manton" and "London". After his bankruptcy (1826) and imprisonment (1828), his workshop was seized and Joseph Lang, a gun dealer of the time bought Manton's remaining stock of guns. His son, John Augustus Manton, preserved the name and carried on the gunmaking and legacy, going by the name “Joseph Manton & Son.” The guns from this shop continued the tradition of only making the best of the best. Shotgun gauges back then were not as standardised as today. (In Great Britain, it's not "gauge", but rather "bore".) This gun isn't a 12 bore. It's an 11 bore. That is stamped on the barrel flats along with the proof marks. A careful examination of those proof marks and a guide to British proof marks should give you the date of the proofing. I don't know if Manton's early gun records still exist but if they do, you could ask the record keeper to look up, "Double Hammer gun, serial number 2846". Nothing ventured, nothing gained!!

Wow nice old gun thank you for sharing it with us sir

Get a PVC pipe and block off the end of it. Make it long enough the barrel can completely fit in it and be submerged when you fill it up with vinegar. Let it sit in a vinegar bath for a few days and take it out and give it some love with a wire brush or 400 grit sandpaper and then put it back in for a day. Then make sure you wash them off to keep the vinegar from re-rusting the barrels. That’s how I restore my old rusty barrels. I normally Oxpho blue them right away and then oil them so they don’t re-rust.

It’ll be a lot newer than 1835 my guess is it’s probably gonna be in the 1880s or newer

You can also unscrew that hammer and put it on the other side backwards just to see if the mechanism works

There’s nothing to take in those things apart and clean them. If I could do it, anybody can. I even put a vice grips on the little square to make sure it moved back in the day when I didn’t care about marrying up my guns in the 90s when I was young and . My guess is you’re probably gonna have to make a stock for it.

You get replacement hammers and screws from Dixie gun works. Bought a 1873 charles Daly Damascus SXS 10 gauge from a rummage sale in the 90’s for $45. Missing a hammer. Finally restored it a couple years ago and shot a turkey with it. They also sell screws. I’m sure you could cobble a stock for it easy enough. Just give it a vinegar bath to clean off the rust and Oxpho blue it. Looks like a fun project!

Make new wood for it both fore and stock.And add the other hammer.

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Typical cat. Very dramatic 😂

The vice looks like what they sold at BJ's Wholesale back in the 80s when they actually had good suff at extremely cheap prices, I think it was $29.00

Is this at the house out west of town?

You can reference the proof marks on the underside of the barrels, they will tell you within a few years of when they were made. If it was a real Manton it would be quite valuable, however Manton was long out of business when your gun was made late 1800's early 1900's

Lots of treasures in there, Thats the kind of place I like to take a basket fill it up and say how much.

Wow, looks like you definitely need to have a sale

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Well I can be to sure of that....but I would think if it was patched properly chain firing wouldn't be an issue...but fast loading powder and ball unmatched I'd think it could happen often lol

Good info Dale, I don't know anything about black powder guns but they are cool,.How often do you think the chain reaction would happen in a fire fight?

I got the batteries and the 3/8 impact deal

Lots of good finds in there Dale and for a great price. Everyone loves a good tool haul.

Chester is awesome! Hey Chester! Nice work on the mini cabin also! R

Brillant - I will try this the next time I'm running the saw. R

Could it be a jewelers brake/vice for bending metal?

Nice score. I almost always can't walk past a BOGO free deal. LOL

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Are you going to be restoring these guns? I would like to see that being done Dale.

we a few of those wire filled yard tree's .. yes , Michigan is so beautiful , summer and winter .... were so blessed to live in this state <><

It was mounted to the side of a wagon. Used to strap loads. Just a guess.

Maybe to hold a leather strop🤔

I've got 2 of those forehand arms shot guns. There is a spring-loaded lever that attaches to the screw for removing the barrel

Looks like a horse shoe pry tool.

Pack saddle buckle

A great grandfather was a traveling blacksmith. Meaning, he traveled from NC to Winnipeg, then turned around, and did it again. Meaning, there a easily 2,000 things he did as one-offs.

It's a leather clamp

I have one just like it. It has everything on it, though, from Belgium. Royal gun Works, I think. Mines from I believe 1908 somewhere around there

Looks like a clamp for fabric. Or thin metal. Maybe for stretching it.

Super cool! Love the decorative etching.

It looks like a giant belt buckle, to hold a large belt or strap?

It's a dollar remover, It just removed a dollar from your wallet and you are now 1 dollar farther away from retirement.

It's a henway. they are quite common.

That’s a pretty awesome gun there Dale. Think about using a tripod that helps out a lot especially when you’re sitting there doing stuff like you’re doing right there.

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I think it's a jig, I don't know what for but I'm pretty sure it's a jig for cutting or scoring materials

Great score. 1:35 might those nippers be used for trimming animal hooves? Or do the look more like they’re used for wire? Hard to tell in the video.

Love those handles! And holy trowels, time to get back into concrete work! 🤣

Looks like a large belt type strap would go through it and the metal spike would go through a hole in the belt, looks like an attachment for a horse is my guess

cool old shottys if you get them back to a condition that they can fire safely the de carbonized steel one is probably black powder only the other its a crapshoot could be B.p. or could be smokeless but id run b.p. in it just to be safe lastly those shottys are from the B.p. to smokeless transition era as general rule it made before 1920 and your not sure if its black powder or smokeless just assume that its black powder