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So many resin that I don’t wish to recall spent on thundering fury to get this ;-;

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yes! they will :)

Yes, her Pyronado is ATK scaling, and could take DMG% buffs. That means that ATK% secondary stats, the 48% ATK buff from Thrilling Tales of Dragon Slayers, and the EM buff could be all stacked and snapshotted by Xiangling. Note that EM would only buffs reactions (vaporise/melt/overload) Also, if you use the Emblem of Severed Fate set, she also scales off Energy Recharge% as the 4 piece set bonus gives more burst damage if you have more recharge

Yea basically

Otherwise, great video and explanation though

That is indeed a valid point. Well she is does great off field damage, I don’t think we should limit her to teams that only deal melt/vaporise damage, in cases such as mono pyro or overload with Chevreuse she is actually a sub dps. Other than that, you’re absolutely correct on that and thanks for pointing out my mistake.

@@12946 Ah okay. Didn't think about teams like with Chevreuse. But in Ganyu teams she is also just a sub dps. That's why off and on field dps are easier terms

@@axezero9334 You’re right, I guess I’ll correct that and put it in the pinned comment to avoid confusion

@@12946 You can if you want. Keep in mind, i didn't want to critique you specifically, it's just the terms themselves and how everybody uses them eventhough they don't always make sense

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@@neo.3 the “I’m tired of Xiangling” one?

I guess I did forget to include their exploration value, yea I guess that’s a point to Lynette

i dont gave sucrose or kazuha and dont feel like building any anemo character either

What I meant was 1) The damage bonus is added onto the base DMG, and is purely from character level and EM, which means that you won't get more base DMG even if you have 500% CRIT 2) The relevance of crit stats is that the whole buffed base DMG could crit and is affected by DMG Bonus% e.g. Your keqing or whatever character originally did 6k without critting and DMG buffs, (i.e. the damage at base), and with aggravate you deal 9k. The 3k extra is NOT affected by crit and dmg bonus. However, if you crit and have electro bonus%, say 100% CD and 60% DMG Bonus, you'll treat the 9k as base damage and multiply these numbers up For a concrete number to refer to, I'd recommend 150-200 EM, which means you'll need either EM weapon/sands. (Or if you're lucky enough to hit enough EM rolls on the other 4 pieces)

About the team you suggested (Kirara/Fischl/Yae/Nahida), I'd say its perfectly fine but you're confined to use Nahida as an on-field driver. Also, the tenacity 4pc buff only lasts for 3 seconds so I'd recommend Kirara using 4 deepwood if your nahida deals good damage. The only way to actually utilise 4pc tenacity is to instantly snapshot it with fischl but you'd have to make sure you don't mess that up. Nahida still could use 4pc Gilded and will gain 180 (80 from 2pc, 50x2 from 4pc). This could allow her to invest in either dendro goblet or crit rate circlet.

@@12946 hey i really appreciate the help and attention, you gained a follower and btw your video was super helpful. thank you! 🫶

Thanks!!

I somehow forgot to add that as I recorded the two teams seperately. I'll give an update in the pinned comment soon

@@12946 Thanks!

Also, about Chevreuse being not fully built, it was kind of my point to prove that she was viable at minimal investments, without even proper 4 Tenacity and her goblet is still +8. Being able to clear abyss with her means that she probably deserves the proper build

Sorry for replying late, yt flagged your comment for no reason Well in general, I would say that keqing aggravate is better as building EM on aggravate benefits more than electro charged as aggravate buffs her NA, E and Q, while taser (electro-charge) keqing could only make use of EM in electro charged, which undermines her own personal damage. It is recommended to play taser with a high EM anemo character triggering electro charged

@@12946It's okay, friend, I'm just grateful that you replied, But Balancing Em, Is It Necessary To Use 4 Gilded Dream Sets, But With Cr Cdm Stats, That's So Stats Can Cr, cdm, or Em be fulfilled?

Well as EM gets less valuable the more you have, and 4pc gilded already gives 80 EM + 100 EM + 14% ATK in aggravate teams, you could go ATK% sands to balance out the stats. However, crit is still strictly better

Good for you :)

It is indeed true that Jean is not that useful in hyperbloom as the reaction itself cannot be buffed by Furina and Jean couldn’t shred dendro RES. However Jean Furina is still versatile and could be used in many comps :)

@@12946 You think Sayu is a good replacement for Jean? I don't have Jean unfortunately I still have misgivings abt reactions but I agree. I like that they both can fit into my Eula team, though Jean will probably have to run a different set for healing or recharge

Yes sayu is basically a mini Jean and she totally works in a furina team. However, in Eula teams, it is often better to run Bennett, Mika and Raiden to get good damage. Jean would work as a healer and Furina could still buff but the Physical DMG% on Eula is so high (typically over 80%) that you will get diminishing returns and a Eula Raiden team will be best to get high damage from both Eula and Raiden and have Raiden battery Eula. I don’t have Eula so this is purely speculation. However I could confirm with good confidence that Sayu (preferably C6) could substitute for Jean in most cases

@@12946 Thanks

@@randyrandom3358Actually, now that I think in more details, Eula Furina (Hyperbloom)Raiden/Kuki DMC/Nahida would work as a team that functions well. Again, I don’t have Eula so this is purely speculation but I think I missed this so here’s this

(I'm sorry I have terrible grammar) Actually I kinda agree with the most part but I think for most players a C1 Sucrose (for 2 charges) is more accessible than C4 Lynette, and that TTDS is a significantly less rare than a freedom sworn. Also, a lot of Sucrose's advantage over Lynette comes from the easy access to applying anemo to swirl thanks to her being a catalyst character, therefore able to drive reactions on field in some teams such as taser and aggravate. Also, as transformative reaction teams (bloom/hyperbloom/burgeon) being the new meta, which is also easily accessible by all players, even relatively newer ones. The EM buff on sucrose is then significantly more useful than Lynette's attack buff as for 99% of players its the hyperbloom/whatever reaction dealing the most damage. Also, as there is an increasing trend of the number of boss characters in the harder floors, the grouping effect is often negligible and the buffs is where the value of Sucrose truly shines, which the whole point is to get the most out of f2p-friendly weapons/constellations choices. However, I would have to agree on Lynette being better on freeze teams or mono elemental teams as basically no one could utilize the EM buff more >90% of the cases and having more room for error, also her longer Q uptime is also a contributing factor if anyone wants to consider her.

No problem!

@@12946 ^^

Thanks!

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Well first I don’t consider myself renowned because I’m still a nobody, but I’ll still answer your question anyway. In almost all cases, using Raiden ER is strictly better than Thundering Fury EM build because of how high her scalings on ATK and ER (A4 passive I believe). Using aggravate raiden will not benifit that much as the aggravate bonus you get is much less than you get if you invest in ER.

@@12946 Thank you :D Do you also know how to calc Aggravate and Hyperbloom? I'm trying to learn it as of now but idk what sources to go to

I would recommend the wiki page for damage calculation but here is a brief summary Hyperbloom is a transformative reaction (doesn’t use ATK/CRIT) and is fully dependent on character level and EM. Character level acts a base damage for hyperbloom (4340 at level 90 I think) and multipled by a factor of (1 + 16*EM/(EM+2000)). This damage is affected by enemy RES On the other hand, aggravate adds a damage bonus onto the damage you’re dealing. The damage bonus is given by 1.15*Level multiplier*(5*EM/(EM+1200)), where level multiplier is another factor based on character level (1.4k at Lv90 I think) and the aggravate damage (base + bonus) could crit. Hope this helps

@@12946 This really REALLY helps!! Thank you so much!!! :D

Sorry for not making this clear. Furina increases party member’s incoming healing bonus % and DMG% when any party member’s HP increase or decrease, in her burst duration. That means if you use burst on furina first and then Noelle E NA, you’ll get a lot of DMG% from Furina as Noelle heals when Norma attacking and healing increase Fanfare (which is damage% and healing bonus%)

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Eh I’d say both have similar usages and that’s why I compared them

@@12946 I see, you don't know shit then😂

Then would you enlighten me on why the comparison is inappropiate?

@@12946 it's literally in my comment, read

@@QQQQ51111 I meant what comparison I should do instead of Sucrose and Lynette

I guess Lynette or another cryo battery still works, but still I wish you luck on getting your sucrose soon

Dude i am at AR 56 still no sucrose 😂

In wriothesley's team just use Lynette. She prioritizes cryo where as other anemo prioritize cryo LAST

(Please take with a grain of salt) That might be true, but just the fact that sucrose could use TTDS could make them equal in strength. I did not cover mono elemental teams because they are inferior in popularity than vape, melt and aggravate as they are used more commonly. Lastly, mono element teams might decrease Lynette’s value as she buffs ATK according to the number of elements in a team. Lynette is still a valid option, but honestly sucrose is a top tier 4 star which other 4 stars show difficulty competing with the versatility of sucrose. Maybe I’ll go do some calculations with a mono pyro team with Bennett and Xiangling to further prove my point as this is still my speculations.

@@12946 not mono mono per say. I meant more like Lyney/Bennet/Zhongli/Lynette. A team that doesn't use elemental reactions.

I guess that could work but I simply don’t see the reason to use Lynette over Sucrose except of personal preference as only one party member requires the ATK buff and TTDS simply is more powerful. That being said, maybe the high scalings on Lynette’s skill might fill in the DPS loss from the 20-30% loss ATK buff to DPS unit

Same question I wanna use ayaya freeze team which doesnt use reaction

@@jimmmi7655 I’m assuming you mean teams without amplifying reactions. Both sucrose and Lynette works, just remember that Lynette buffs the whole team while sucrose could use TTDS to buff Ayaka only. The buffing effect will depend on if you have sub-DPS like Kaeya/Rosaria, but for shield/heal characters you could use Sucrose. Shenhe is a unique case as she uses ATK. Therefore Lynette could balance out the buffs to Ayaka and Shenhe.

Sure I’ll consider it

Lynette and sucrose are similar in strength for a neuvillete team because he scales of HP and both can’t really buff that. However, the supports could be buffed to deal slightly more off-field damage. If you want more reaction damage use sucrose but if you want just raw damage use Lynette (with higher burst taunting uptime) Jean could also work as VV shredder but a shielder + sucrose could get the work done unless you are using two offensive supports (need healing from Jean)

If you don't have kazuha You should sucrose asap Cuz she is really the second best anemo buffer. She could be better than kazuha(when she is c6) In some cases.

At C6 Sucrose is definitely better but before that its kinda negligible depending on the team you wish to run, I prefer Lynette in my aggrevate team as she can uphold the VV shred long enough to keep Keqing on field and since I use Yaoyao and Oz (Fischl) I dont need to spend extra time on Lynette and can get more dps off that way. Lastly its probably just a skill issue but my sucrose ult doesnt last long nor swirl let alone get infused by my teams so i find Lynette a lot more useable and Versatile than Sucrose.

@@silenthunder23t It is true that Lynette has higher burst uptime, which could allow some mistakes to not effect the rotations. I would also like to point out that the cryo priority of Lynette’s Q infusion would allow melt teams to work better, but a downside is that Lynette has a harder time preforming double swirls with Xiangling which could be achieved with Guoba, but this is kinda niche so I’ll leave it there. Lastly, Sucrose as an anemo catalyst which could facilitate a lot of reactions, which Lynette has a hard time achieving without C6.

Yes it does indeed work but you would have to use ATK sands instead because too much EM will lead to diminishing returns

@@12946 ahh ok! thanks! 🙏

Exactly my question I have more guilded dream pieces since its resin efficient with deepwood set, i dont want Thundersoother , so she will be gilded dreams thanks both, nice video

@@ahmedbraham3327 Yea I guess 4 gilded is just more efficient to farm for a number of characters but TF domain is kinda only for keqing and cyno now because fischl and miko uses golden troupe

I literally got her a few patches ago only…. :(

4pc TF is generally the recommended set because it allows you to use skill in shorter CD, which adds up to more damage than 2pc TF 2pc ATK/EM. Also 20% aggravate bonus on 4pc TF is more valuable the more EM you have, (roughly equal to 50 + 49x/576 + 25x^2/663552 extra EM at x EM, but that does not matter) so I would say 4pc TF is the best set for aggravate keqing

Damn thanks

Glad it helped! Thanks for the positive feedback

Short answer: it depends how you use raiden, generally not recommended as their playstyles are largely different, but not completely trash Long answer: (please take with a grain of salt) Keqing is a character that relies on supports a LOT, so using a team slot for another DPS will generally not be worth it as you could insert in another support such as nahida, DMC or kazuha. However, if your raiden is good enough to fill in the DPS without affecting rotation (i.e. enough recharge and good synergy), you could opt to put keqing and raiden in the same team. Also, keqing works best in aggravate teams, where raiden shogun performs fairly mediocre. I am not saying that you could not play aggravate raiden, but teams like raiden national might prove to be better in terms of DPS. Finally, play what you want to play, please dont feel forced by a random person that makes trash videos. Feel free to tell me what I haven't explained enough

Short answer: it depends Long answer: If you are using sucrose/nahida, you will get a lot of EM from their passives so you don’t need a lot, as EM is a stat with actual diminishing returns and using EM artifacts/weapons will provide progressively less value if you have more EM. For an amount to stick with, I would suggest 75-150 EM with two EM buffers and around 150-250 with only one EM buffer.

@@12946hey I just saw this and I jist finished building my Keqing. I am running R3 wolf fang (will go to R5) with atk% sand. Now would it be better to keep looking for an EM sand and/or replace weapon with R5 iron sting and keep the atk% sand? Team comp: Keqing, Baizhu, Fischl, Kazuha/Sucrose.

Sorry for the late reply and I'll try to answer your question. The whole point of choosing ATK%/EM sands is to avoid having too much of ATK or EM (otherwise known as diminishing returns), so if you are using Sucrose, which gives EM, using EM sands will waste its potential as you will get less damage bonus for each point of EM the higher EM you have (200 is generally the comfort zone), therefore using ATK% sands with sucrose is best. However, kazuha doesn't buff EM before C2. Therefore using an EM sands is perfectly fine, but note that ATK% is not that much worse, assuming similar substats. I think you will be much better with just using the ATK% sands you have and you could free up the resin for other characters (please don't grind TF that much, been there)

@@12946 hey thanks a lot! Now Im thinking of pulling the mistsplitter not just for keqing but maybe for other sword dps. When I did the calculator, for some reason r5 wolfang does more damage than mistplitter. Is this correct? What do you think?

@@kendrixmegino9576 Well this honestly depends on the playstyle and the artifacts, as you might want to reserve wolfang if you have inconsistent crits, but if you have enough crit rate (60-70) misplitter probably still beats r5 as normal attack damage is still a huge portion of her damage, whereas the wolfang only buffs E and Q when misplitter gives DMG% in general. I’d say the wolfang is completely fine as it has +27.6% CR on NAs and +43.6% CR on E and Q max stacks, which could allow more investment on crit damage or ATK and EM, as the weapon banner is kinda a scam sometimes. At last, please note that this is purely speculation and in the sleep deprived state that I’m in right now, this should be merely taken as advice. I will try to give some form of calculation later. Please feel free to spend your primos on anything.