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HP C2490-60062 hard drive sounds - True HP 6400 RPM beast
No that isn’t a typo, that drive indeed spins at 6400 RPM. (A lot of websites say they are 5400 RPM, but they are wrong.)
It’s a beast that’s very heavy, which has 9 platters inside.
This is a true HP drive, not one they slapped their brand on like I have multiple of, but one they actually made themselves. Yes, HP used to make their own hard drives. I think HP probably were the only ones using that weird 6400 RPM speed. This drive appears to be identical to the HP C2490A, this model number being an HP specific one to match the drive with some of their servers of the era. Surprisingly this drive actually lacks the HP logo on the label.
The seeking sounds are nothing crazy but they are pretty loud as you’d expect from a server grade drive with many platters.
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Inside a rare Teac SD-3240 30U hard drive
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Here's the inside of a rare drive, a Teac SD-3240 30U. Sadly, this drive is dead. It has a damaged IC on the PCB... At first it read data but couldn't write. I tried to fix the PCB but just made it worse... Now it no longer passes the seek test. At least I thought about recording this before trying anything else, so you can at least see it run HDMotion and speedsys. These drives are rare, I wil...
NEC D3146H Hard drive sounds & inside view
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A nice motor actuated NEC, which was shipped with innadequate protection and ripped its own top head off the first time I spun it up. Sadly the broken off head isn't the only issue this drive has, the other surfaces are also quite damaged, and the positionning is also having a big problem, like I can LLF the drive and it will seemingly work fine, then suddenly a lot of sectors will become IDNF ...
I got a lot of 11 untested hard drives of the late 80s/early 90s, will they work?!
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Soo, here’s a new lot of untested drives for my collection, and this time, it’s a very interesting one. This lot was expensive, 167€ after shipping and fees, but it also is the most interesting lot I ever bought, with 11 drives all from the late 80s or very early 90s. Some of the drives in this lot are either usually impossible to find for sale, or are at insane prices on sites like eBay. Here,...
Seagate ST3290A hard drive internal view
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I have a bunch of older stuff I recorded on my PC/Phone, and this is one of these older recordings, from September 2023... This drive is the one that was in this video here : czcams.com/video/z9_l98XEJp4/video.html It has a lot of bad sectors, and I have multiple drives of the same model that work just fine. I don't really like how I moved a lot when I recorded that thing, but whatever it's pro...
Micropolis Mustang 4540A hard drive sounds - The end of an era...
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Here's the rare Micropolis Mustang 4540A drive that was in the big lot of 38 drives I got in April. This drive kinda marks the end of an era, being the last drive series that Micropolis made before they want bankrupt in 1997. Originally being a manufacturer of high end drives in the 80s, they didn"t quite make it to the modern era, ending with these IDE offerings. They also made SCSI units usin...
I bought bad drives AGAIN, let's check them out!
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I don't know when I will stop! Here's three lots of drives, two that were sold as bad, and one that was shipped insanely bad (not even in cardboard...) One of them was really cheap and had SAS drives that I thought maybe the seller didn't know how to test, the other had an ALPS drive in it and was from the same seller as the bad lot that had the NECs in it. I didn't intend for the 4 SCSI Maxtor...
Checking out a giant lot of 38 hard drives, will they work?!
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Checking out a giant lot of 38 hard drives, will they work?!
Quantum Pioneer SG 2.1 Hard drive sounds - Uncommon Quantum from 1997
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Quantum Pioneer SG 2.1 Hard drive sounds - Uncommon Quantum from 1997
Kalok KL 320 hard drive sounds - Major damage, still boots!
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Kalok KL 320 hard drive sounds - Major damage, still boots!
Samsung PLS-31274A hard drive sounds - Shipped with no protection… Yet fully working!
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Samsung PLS-31274A hard drive sounds - Shipped with no protection… Yet fully working!
I bought bad Quantum drives, will any of them work?
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I bought bad Quantum drives, will any of them work?
Seagate ST-157N-1 Hard drive sounds - SCSI Stepper drive from 1991
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Seagate ST-157N-1 Hard drive sounds - SCSI Stepper drive from 1991
1985 10 MB Teac SD-510 hard drive sounds - I got this rare drive going!
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1985 10 MB Teac SD-510 hard drive sounds - I got this rare drive going!
Western Digital Caviar 34300 hard drive sounds
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Western Digital Caviar 34300 hard drive sounds
I got another big lot of bad drives, will any of them work?!
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I got another big lot of bad drives, will any of them work?!
Seagate ST-251 MLC-2 hard drive sounds - 40MB MFM drive from 1987 that can run Windows 95!
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Seagate ST-251 MLC-2 hard drive sounds - 40MB MFM drive from 1987 that can run Windows 95!
I bought 4 bad hard drives, can I make them work?!
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I bought 4 bad hard drives, can I make them work?!
January lots - Checking out 3 lots of hard drives, are they working?
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January lots - Checking out 3 lots of hard drives, are they working?
1984 Quantum Q540 hard drive sounds - This drive had NO platters, but I got it working!
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1984 Quantum Q540 hard drive sounds - This drive had NO platters, but I got it working!
Quantum ProDrive 40AT Hard drive sounds - Early IDE 40MB drive from 1990
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Quantum ProDrive 40AT Hard drive sounds - Early IDE 40MB drive from 1990
Inside of an extremely rare Daeyoung DX-3120A hard drive
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Inside of an extremely rare Daeyoung DX-3120A hard drive
Working 40 years old Miniscribe 2012 10MB hard drive sounds
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Working 40 years old Miniscribe 2012 10MB hard drive sounds
JTS Palladium P1200-2AF hard drive sounds - Unusual low end drive of the mid 90s
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JTS Palladium P1200-2AF hard drive sounds - Unusual low end drive of the mid 90s
ExcelStor Gemini G280 hard drive sounds - Last design from a small manufacturer?
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ExcelStor Gemini G280 hard drive sounds - Last design from a small manufacturer?
IBM (HP/NEC) 40GV DTLA-305020 hard drive sounds - HP branded, IBM design, made by NEC?!
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IBM (HP/NEC) 40GV DTLA-305020 hard drive sounds - HP branded, IBM design, made by NEC?!
Working IBM Deskstar 75GXP DTLA-307030 30 GB hard drive sounds
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Working IBM Deskstar 75GXP DTLA-307030 30 GB hard drive sounds
New old stock Teac SD-340H 40MB hard drive sounds
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New old stock Teac SD-340H 40MB hard drive sounds
Maxtor 7060AT hard drive sounds - The 60MB 7120's smaller brother
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Maxtor 7060AT hard drive sounds - The 60MB 7120's smaller brother
I saved these 7 vintage hard drives from being trashed, but are they any good??
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I saved these 7 vintage hard drives from being trashed, but are they any good??

Komentáře

  • @Deniska_tut
    @Deniska_tut Před 15 hodinami

    4:47 sounds like honda civic

  • @petrisz
    @petrisz Před dnem

    The most beloved sound of my late 80's when I was a young kid writing small silly programs in dBase and Pascal :)

  • @ezoteriktrakyalreal

    1:28 He is thinking about something

  • @geggion
    @geggion Před 6 dny

    we got hdd live webcam before gta 6

  • @bigbluebananabread
    @bigbluebananabread Před 8 dny

    This thing sure is cool! I guess anything with 9 platters would be difficult not to classify as cool though ;) A real HP is incredibly neat!

  • @rlmedia_yt
    @rlmedia_yt Před 10 dny

    When I first heard this drive, I couldn’t believe it was 6400rpm.

  • @KliaTech
    @KliaTech Před 10 dny

    Fast and rare SCSI HP!!! I like these drives!

  • @timofej1344
    @timofej1344 Před 10 dny

    very cool spin up)

  • @Grumpy-Fallboy
    @Grumpy-Fallboy Před 10 dny

    i had one there, it broke in like 15 days back in 90's, lol. its annoying. 🙂

  • @notsoseagatey
    @notsoseagatey Před 11 dny

    Bearings are louder here than on discord for some reason lol. Anyways, 6400rpm is defo an unusual speed for a hard drive but it exists, so why not? :) I love when HP didnt have budget cuts and made cool & durable things like this

  • @bobjoe2827
    @bobjoe2827 Před 11 dny

    I have several of these drives, the rubber shock mounts for the pcb tend to melt and make a mess (even on a NOS one that I have), but they are otherwise good drives.

    • @notsoseagatey
      @notsoseagatey Před 10 dny

      Sad, cheap or crappy rubber from that era really likes melting huh

    • @bobjoe2827
      @bobjoe2827 Před 10 dny

      @@notsoseagatey My experience is that synthetic rubber likes to melt, and natural rubber likes to crumble when exposed to the ravages of time. These rubber parts are at least easy to replace as they aren't inside the drive (unlike nearly all Quantum drives and early Connor drives).

    • @notsoseagatey
      @notsoseagatey Před 10 dny

      @@bobjoe2827 Well they get really messy lol, i have an old vaio and the rubber melted on my clothes n stuff

    • @bobjoe2827
      @bobjoe2827 Před 9 dny

      @@notsoseagatey Mineral spirits is what I use to remove the melted rubber from these drives, however I don't think you would want to use that on fabrics. You can use talc to temporarily stabilize sticky rubber, but the only solution to the problem is to remove it.

  • @mikixyz123
    @mikixyz123 Před 11 dny

    Cool drive!

  • @TheDiskMaster
    @TheDiskMaster Před 11 dny

    I used to have one of these things. Never worked, it wound up going into a river for a school experiment on corrosion.

  • @Nintendo3D5
    @Nintendo3D5 Před 11 dny

    Only the drive's spindle motor sounds like my whole pc By the way, in my collection, I've got the same Miniscribe drive. And unfortunately, the heads refuse to move, only the spindle motor works.

  • @Jones5121
    @Jones5121 Před 15 dny

    cool stuff, wasn't aware TEAC ever made voice coil hard drives

    • @TheDiskMaster
      @TheDiskMaster Před 12 dny

      Their most famous models are all voice coil.

  • @bigbluebananabread
    @bigbluebananabread Před 15 dny

    Even though this drive really didn't turn out as hoped, it was really nice to see it going from the inside!

    • @arnlol
      @arnlol Před 15 dny

      @@bigbluebananabread Yeah, I wish it could have worked, but at least this is better than nothing. We might never see another one for all we know.

    • @notsoseagatey
      @notsoseagatey Před 15 dny

      @@arnlolDepends on how rare t is tbh, like that daeyoung drive

  • @JankPods0201
    @JankPods0201 Před 15 dny

    For some reason I forgot this channel existed, lol. But what a shame that it's dead.

    • @notsoseagatey
      @notsoseagatey Před 15 dny

      Ah that's a lot of fun when you forgot something you know :)) True, what a shame. I don't know why but luck with rare drives isnt as good as with common ones, like with his micropolis

  • @notsoseagatey
    @notsoseagatey Před 15 dny

    What a shame the drive PCB died. I wish you the best of luck on finding a new PCB, also those bearings are quite loud lol

    • @arnlol
      @arnlol Před 15 dny

      The bearings aren't actually that bad in real life. Hopefully I can find another PCB. Of course the PCB of a rare drive had to have physical damage on it...

    • @notsoseagatey
      @notsoseagatey Před 15 dny

      @@arnlol Don't really know why but yeah. Why do most common drives work more than rare ones? I'm gonna guess that the rare ones arent really common because of issues, so that's the reason probably.

  • @mathmos2526
    @mathmos2526 Před 16 dny

    10:26 i have a similar seagate that does this when there's an OS installed. It doesnt do it if the drive is empty tho

  • @notsoseagatey
    @notsoseagatey Před 16 dny

    rare footage of arnold not being able to revive a drive

  • @ifeanyi190
    @ifeanyi190 Před 17 dny

    How about doing Windows ME next, Arnold?

  • @fisqual
    @fisqual Před 17 dny

    Those maxtor atlas drives are crazy. I never heard them before.

  • @user-om5fz1ru2t
    @user-om5fz1ru2t Před 17 dny

    Hello god night.

  • @Nintendo3D5
    @Nintendo3D5 Před 21 dnem

    0:07: Seagate ST-3491A 0:20: Quantum Fireball EX3.2 0:34: Maxtor 90651U2 0:43: Western Digital Protegé WD400 0:53: Seagate ST-340016A 1:05: Seagate ST-3160212ACE 1:24: Seagate ST-351A/X 1:37: Western Digital WD93044A 2:12: Seagate ST-157A 2:34: Seagate ST-157A "the loud" 2:56: Western Digital Caviar 280 3:13: Seagate ST-1102A 3:29: Seagate ST-3096A 3:43: Seagate ST-3120A 3:59: Samsung SHD-3062A 4:15: Seagate ST-1144A 4:33: Seagate ST-3145A 4:46: Miniscribe 3180S "The big one" 5:20: Seagate ST-3195A 5:34: Seagate ST-3243A 5:47: Seagate ST-3250A 5:59: Conner CP30254 6:15: Seagate ST-3290A "The strange" 6:29: Seagate ST-3290A 6:42: Seagate ST-3391A 6:54: Seagate ST-3491A (Closed) 7:08: Seagate ST-3491A "The damaged" 7:21: Maxtor 7540AV 7:36: Conner CFS541A 7:48: Conner CFS541A 8:00: Seagate ST-3660A "the loud* 8:13: Seagate ST-3850A 8:26: Maxtor 7850AV 8:41: Quantum Fireball 1080AT "The gigabyte era" 9:03: Seagate ST-31276A 9:18: Western Digital Caviar 21200 9:33: Seagate ST-31270A 9:53: JTS Champ C1300-2AF 10:11: Seagate ST-32122A 10:27: Quantum Bigfoot 2110AT 11:08: Seagate ST-32132A 11:21: IBM type DFHS S2W 11:44: Western Digital Caviar 22500 11:59: Maxtor 90320D2 12:10: Seagate ST-33210A 12:20: Quantum Fireball EX 4.2AT 12:36: Seagate ST-34321A 12:48: Seagate ST-34321A "Unusable" 13:00: Fujitsu MPD3043AT 13:09: Seagate ST-34311A 13:18: Seagate ST-34311A 13:27: Western Digital Caviar 64AA 13:33: Fujitsu MPD3064AT 13:44: Western Digital Caviar 84AA 13:51: Quantum Viking II 9.1 14:23: Samsung SV2011H 14:32: Maxtor 92049U3 14:42: Seagate ST-360012A 14:53: Maxtor 6Y060L0 15:03: Hitachi HDS722580VLAT20 15:13: Western Digital Caviar WD1200 15:33: Western Digital Caviar WD1200 15:45: Seagate ST-3120022A 16:00: Seagate ST-3160212ACE (Closed) 16:13: Seagate ST-3160212ACE 16:25: Western Digital WD1600AAJS 16:38: Seagate ST-3160815A 16:51: Western Digital WD2000 17:11: Western Digital WD2500JB 17:28: Western Digital WD5000AAKX 17:39: Western Digital WD1002FBYS 17:56: HGST HDS724040ALE640 18:28: HGST HDS724040ALE640 18:56: Bonus videos

  • @romania5199
    @romania5199 Před 22 dny

    how do i run HDMonitor?

    • @arnlol
      @arnlol Před 15 dny

      hdmotion you mean? You need to add it into a DOS floppy disk then run hdmotion 0x80 on the command prompt (for the first drive, 0x81 for the second etc)

    • @notsoseagatey
      @notsoseagatey Před 20 hodinami

      @@arnlol you can run it off the HD too

  • @mikixyz123
    @mikixyz123 Před 22 dny

    Not gonna lie, I think the ST33223A might have a bad PCB. Cuz if the heads would be bad, it'd likely click, and if it would be fine, it'd do it's seektest, right?

  • @user-kv5bf8be4f
    @user-kv5bf8be4f Před 23 dny

    Arnold if you are looking at this comment do a full format on the wd red 4tb from a year ago.That should fix all pending sectors.Worked with my drives!

    • @arnlol
      @arnlol Před 15 dny

      I have done a full write on it in the past but the pendings came back. But since then it's got way way worse with a TON of bad sectors so I have removed it from use months ago.

  • @bigbluebananabread
    @bigbluebananabread Před 23 dny

    You certainly did well getting what you could out of it at the very least! Of course it's a massive bummer how this one turned out though. Very interesting drives.

    • @arnlol
      @arnlol Před 15 dny

      Yeah I guess it could have been even worse, at least I managed to record it boot and run the usual hdmotion and speedsys.

  • @gamerluca009
    @gamerluca009 Před 24 dny

    CRINGEEEE🎉🎉😢

  • @TheDiskMaster
    @TheDiskMaster Před 25 dny

    Hey at least it works better than my D3126H.

    • @arnlol
      @arnlol Před 15 dny

      Well that's actually true it doesn't make a strange high pitched sound at least. Wonder what causes that drive of yours to sound like that

  • @hismastersvoice2729
    @hismastersvoice2729 Před 25 dny

    (joke) There is no difference between a cat and the RO652 hard drive. Both are noisy, both need energy, and both purr, lol

  • @jusun2009
    @jusun2009 Před 27 dny

    38:03 That’s correct. There aren’t MSN services yet in China iirc.

  • @notsoseagatey
    @notsoseagatey Před 27 dny

    Looks really nice inside tbh, also sounds quite interesting too. Shame that it had problems, hopefully it's fine

    • @arnlol
      @arnlol Před 15 dny

      Yeah, not my first drive with major issues I guess

    • @notsoseagatey
      @notsoseagatey Před 15 dny

      @@arnlol your kalok kl 320, the broken band RO0652, the 384R is just some examples I guess

  • @engineer359
    @engineer359 Před 27 dny

    i wonder how top head was just torn off. Maybe it was stuck on platter?

  • @mathmos2526
    @mathmos2526 Před 27 dny

    oh ma gud 0:04

    • @notsoseagatey
      @notsoseagatey Před 25 dny

      bro got the shock of his life

    • @arnlol
      @arnlol Před 15 dny

      That was certainly unexpected eh

    • @notsoseagatey
      @notsoseagatey Před 15 dny

      @@arnlol true just like when the rodime caps blew up xd

  • @mima85
    @mima85 Před 27 dny

    0:04 - OUCH! That's definitely a noise you DON'T want to hear from an hard drive. In the past I had 2 of those drives, due to improper storage by me one ended having the heads stuck to the platters very hard, and when I tried to free the disk of course I ripped off the heads. As for the other one, when I powered it on for the first time when I found it, the stepper slammed repeatedly back and forth the head stack against the arm stops so hard that caused an extensive head crash all over the surfaces of all the platters. Bad controller. Some time after I found the IDE version of this drive for cheap on eBay and I snagged it immediately. It's in perfect condition, no bad sectors at all, and sometimes I take it off its box and give it a run to prevent it ending like my first NEC. That drive is special: it came from Kharkiv, Ukraine. Every time I grab the box I wonder if the person that wrote his and my address on the box is still alive, it's a strange and quite eerie feeling. On the drive there's still the original DOS installation, with some very old russian DOS games, a copy of Volkov Commander and some other stuff. That's a very special item I have in my collection.

    • @arnlol
      @arnlol Před 27 dny

      Ouch stiction sucks… This one obviously didn’t have stiction as it started up just fine, my assumption is the platter got damaged in shipping and the head caught on that damage which caused it to be ripped off, but that could be wrong obviously. I didn’t know motor actuated NECs existed with the IDE interface, I thought they were all MFM. That’s a nice drive you have. It must be quite a strange feeling to think about the person that sold you that drive…

    • @mima85
      @mima85 Před 27 dny

      @@arnlol Oh yeah, indeed it is. Anyway your theory about your drive most probably is right.

  • @MyComputerStudios_
    @MyComputerStudios_ Před 27 dny

    Well try getting some replacement platters in there, maybe that may work?

    • @arnlol
      @arnlol Před 27 dny

      I'm not sure how to unload the heads and I don't think that would improve the positionning problem so I don't think it's worth trying that.

    • @mathmos2526
      @mathmos2526 Před 27 dny

      @@arnlol to unload i think you need to remove those 2 screws on the back of the actuator (the one that goes around the stepper motor) and then remove that big screw on top of the bearing. dont do that tho

    • @bobjoe2827
      @bobjoe2827 Před 26 dny

      @@mathmos2526 Close, you remove the two back screws, then the screws on the capstan of the stepper motor and slide the band off and capstan off as one assembly (that is what I have done when servicing one of these). The inner bumper stop has to be removed carefully (it is pressed in, and the old rubber will be fragile), then you should be able to space and unload the heads. The real problem comes with the drive's use of wedge servo on the platters (many late steppers do this actually) which is the cause of this drive's positioning problems (I was just swapping out the spindle motor on mine, so I reused the original platters without messing with the servo).

  • @XLGaming
    @XLGaming Před 27 dny

    I really like the seek sounds of this drive. It sounds different than most steppers I've heard.

    • @arnlol
      @arnlol Před 27 dny

      Yeah it sounds quite nice. As far as I understand, it actually isn't a stepper motor, but a DC motor with optical servo which might be why it sounds different.

    • @TheDiskMaster
      @TheDiskMaster Před 25 dny

      That's because this is an optical servo, not a stepper

  • @ACD4MRGM1
    @ACD4MRGM1 Před měsícem

    0:42 looks like Windows 10

  • @geggion
    @geggion Před měsícem

    i got this drive on my ibm ps1 model 2011

  • @Gamersoft1124Pro
    @Gamersoft1124Pro Před měsícem

    I have only 83 Hard Drives from SATA to IDE 2.5 inch to 3.5 inch

  • @thegeforce6625
    @thegeforce6625 Před měsícem

    Would love to find a 6.4gb ST or 8.4gb SE someday for a not ridiculous price, one day I’m sure.

  • @HEFORCE.KHD4090
    @HEFORCE.KHD4090 Před měsícem

    That's Not A dommage Not A Damage!

  • @markrongics294
    @markrongics294 Před měsícem

    oh man I love that miniscribe! that sound it makes is truly golden

    • @arnlol
      @arnlol Před 15 dny

      Yes stepper based miniscribes are obnoxiously loud but I actually love it they sound great!

    • @notsoseagatey
      @notsoseagatey Před 6 dny

      @@arnlolsounds like a floppy lol

  • @Chonky_boi
    @Chonky_boi Před měsícem

    buy a 2010 wd green 350gb hdd it sounds so good

  • @vindicator7009-main
    @vindicator7009-main Před měsícem

    request: try Windows Vista's pre build on modern hard drives and seek test

  • @engineer359
    @engineer359 Před měsícem

    is this drive is really has so small space to hold only win 95 with simcity 3000 without some cities?

  • @nuherbleath461
    @nuherbleath461 Před měsícem

    Sounds almost the same as an st-412. Pretty sure miniscribe was going to be a second source hard drive supplier for ibm’s 5160.

  • @douro20
    @douro20 Před měsícem

    JTS is Jugi Tandon Storage- yes, that Tandon. Sirjang Lal "Jugi" Tandon founded the company in 1994 alongside Seagate co-founder Tom Mitchell to market a 3-inch drive that Sirjang developed for laptop computers. The factory for his later 3.5-inch standard drive offering was in his home country of India- specifically in Madras. It remains the only company to produce hard disk drives in India, at least that I know of.

  • @KliaTech
    @KliaTech Před měsícem

    Cool old hard drives! 29:21 I really like the hard drive quantum q250.

    • @arnlol
      @arnlol Před 15 dny

      Yeah the Q250 is a nice drive, I was kinda dismissing them at first but they sound great. Those were used in some early models of apple machines