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I've watched half of this so far & already, SO MANY things she described are identical to my experience. The way (after getting to the point where you KNOW, "something HAS to be medically wrong with me").. That looking back, I also realized I'd been sick for as far back as i can remember.. Even as a young teen, I never understood why i couldn't seem to keep up with my friends..i didn't know why my energy levels were lower. The years and years of constant stress preceeding the point when I realized i felt too bad for there not to be a physical medical issue causing my issues. The having no energy to keep any friends.. Trying all sorts of supplements.. Having EVERY Dr treat me like I'm an idiot &/or blame it on depression. Also only ordering tests that weren't helpful & all came bk normal. None of my Drs have acknowledged the severity of my symptoms or how disabling they've honestly been and continue to be. After i told my current Dr, I believe I'm suffering from CIRS & tried explaining it to him, he insisted there's no way I've got inflammation in my body, cuz he's given me every test there is for inflammation & even autoimmunity & everything was normal. I proceeded to tell him some of the markers that needed to be tested for CIRS & he said he'd never even heard of some of em and that others were "just proteins" that "couldnt tell you anything".. I could keep on about the similar experiences, but I'm exausted alrdy from typing. The differences...ive been sick so long & to the point where there's no possible way i could do any kind of work, I can't afford to see a functional medicine Dr. I don't have family that's supportive.. Not for emotional support or financial support. They all think I'm crazy and just lazy, even after I've read them stuff about the illness. I have no one i can move in with to get outta this moldy environment. I see no light at the end of the tunnel. My plan is to print a research study article by Shoemaker & take it to my next appt.. It's one with all the tests they gave study participants, further broken down into which ones showed no differences in patients and controls, then the tests that did show differences. I'm also gonna print the basic info about cirs & hope 2 God he'll at least order some appropriate tests. If he does, i have no doubt my results will show how sick i am, then I need him to either write me an Rx for binders, or help me get disability. Hopefully both. After that, I'd (at some point) be able to feel a little better, enough to get a job and pay to see a shoemaker Dr, or if i cld get disability, then save my money and finally see a shoemaker Dr. I've taken the VCS test and failed. I've also got nearly all the symptoms... Not just the clusters, but individual symptoms. My entire neighborhood is VISIBLY moldy! I've never seen any place even close to as nasty as the houses look around here (as far as being just COVERED in mold!! Ive been tempted to try calling the EPA to come check it out, cuz it's so bad and i can't afford to buy even basic essentials, much less pay a mold specialist to look into this area or order the environionomics tests. I can't even buy razors 2 shave, a toothbrush, anything!! My mom's too busy babying my narcissistic brother, 18yrs older than me, who moved here to use her til she dies. She's terrified of him, so won't speak up, stand up for herself or disagree with him in any way. He literally keeps her debit card and spends whatever little she has left every mt after paying bills. Since he's been here, my mental health is much worse & my mom's health has steadily declined. She's 84 now & IDK how much longer she'll be around.. So i really gotta find a Dr to help ASAP, or I'll end up on the street with my young daughter in foster care or something. Since i mentioned my bro, I might as well add... The years and years of stress i spoke of earlier.. Was thx 2 him. I trusted him back in 2009, when i planned on filing bankruptcy due to medical bills with no ins. He convinced me that in court they could force me to sell my car & buy a cheaper one & offered to let me put my car in his name, so that didn't happen. Well, i trusted him at the time & had no clue of his narcissistic tendencies, so I put my car in his name the day i went and paid cash for it (following my previous car being totalled). Not even 3 mts later, he took over the car and left me with no transportation at all. I'd just had to quit my job as a hairstylist due to injuries from a wreck and move back in with my parents. I put every penny i had into that car, so i was broke with messed up credit. After he tore my car up, my parents let him "borrow" their car. Needless to say, he never gave it bk. All my dad rly wanted from him was for him to take them to church on Sundays, but he was too busy playing golf every Sunday. My dad said he'd prob never get to go to church again in his life. He passed away in 2016 & he was right, he hadbt been taken to church once. I HATE my brother, esp now, having to watch him take advantage of my mom like he does. She literally goes behind him & washes his dishes,bc he won't clean up after himself or even take out the trash!! I want to be able to get my daughter and i outta here so bad! I believe she's suffering from CIRS already. I know she IS depressed for sure. She cries at least once a wk bc she's so unhappy being stuck here with no vehicle. Oh yeah, he sold my dad's car b4 he moved here. He had a van when he moved in, but a month afterwards, he hit something and popped a tire. He never bothered getting it fixed & has left the van sitting out there, not paying taxes on it or even considering getting it bk on the road for 4yrs or more.

Love Junior, he gives awesome info and hope.

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Positive feeling > positive thinking

Tylenol is a joke for pain management and very detrimental for the liver from what was said back in the 80’s . Maybe thats why the hospitals continue to use it ? Oh yeah, they are out to keep us sick and on meds, orders from Big Pharma !

Thankyou so much for this amazing interview ❤

Wow this was a awesome interview ❤️🙌🦄 was holding onto every word 🙏 super grateful if liz or karden could answer : if youve been taught brain retraining and bee doing it dilligently for ages and have plateaued after recoveringmaybe 50% with it(yes i understand from thus convo that bottom up approach may now need to be intergrated) but say still do anxiety of say going on a walk or something and we do a brain retraining technique or brain rehearsalof it going well and can get the emotional and physical/somatic sensations up of a great past walking experience, ill come out of the visualization and feel good or confident for a few seconds /minutes but then notice the anxiety or indecision about doing the walk or how enjoyable its gonna be come up again-obviously there is like a deep belief that im still fragile /have to be careful /might not go that well and not sure how to resolve this belief while still experiencing sensations: so like what do we do here in these situations of limiting beliefs/predictions or i guess old traumatic feelings coming up? Because obviously theres something not shifting underneath thats creating this continued response even when often walks might go ok or are even enjoyable ?Hope this question makes sense and so incredibly grateful for a answer 🙏

Thank you. This has been more helpful than anything else I have seen on the subject!!

Nice one, watching my hives inflammation fade day after day until they completely vanished was such a relief, I went with what I pointed out and within the first 10 days or so the urticaria was barely visible! I just go'ogled the latest by Shane Zormander and after 20 days my skin has never been healthier!

Was great to hear about Miguels work from a slightly different angle! Thx for the interview 🤗

the AQUARIUS is the most amazing stage of human being history to LIVE so grateful to be here... thanks all

what a beautiful HeartTouching Letter at the end... i almost compeletly felt that .. fiigured it out before.. the pain is there for a reason!... LIKE AND SUBS

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I'm late of course, but thank you so much rebecca! My own little 10-minute (3 hours) phone call.

yes what a great interview .Back then i went to a physician who told me i had the flu ! So i said o him "for a whole year" ?

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So glad people are sharing how they over came the speed bumps of life. We are the creators of our life.🌻

Read Dan’s book when i first got ME/CFS. I always liked the way he thinks. A lot of people bashed him for his theories but at least he’s thinking outside the box and offering new persoectives and he’s right about a lot of stuff.

Interesting she mentioned groups. I too am too empathetic (and I do believe you can overdo that empathetic stuff). When my husband died suddenly people were saying "Ooh! There are lots of groups for that!" I tried it and it was awful! I was not only grieving myself but also for them. I had to get out of that. My question is, I wonder what percentage of us are overly empathetic and have taken on other people's pain along the way? I know now that I had my own trauma and took on other people's crap too.

Just happened to see an old Golden Girls rerun from 1989 where they tried to tackle chronic fatigue. Wow! Twenty five years ago and they STILL gaslight us! Just sayin'.

@cfsrecover Does the program use visualization at all? Is the brain rewiring simply just telling ourselves we are safe? I have a hard time because when symptoms arise (and there are many), my thoughts go to all the dark narratives of what this could be (it's Lyme! Mold! Drug injury! Treatment resistant anxiety!) and it's hard to get calm. How to break those patterns of behaviour?

I just saw this interview. I am so sorry you went through this. There is nothing more heartbreaking like being severly ill with children. I am really happy that you got well. Wish you and your familly all the health and happiness.

Yessss amazing well done

Thank you Liz and Phil for this great Interview, so many helpful insights. The only thing I did not understand is how Phil on the one hand says you can not go from being doing very little to doing a lot because there is actually something wrong with your physiology, when talking about GET and Pacing, but then shares recovery stories where people would go from being in a wheelchair to walking around in the city for hours within a day ?

Excellent interview! Does anyone have any recommendation for neuroplasticity?

Women are more susceptible to trauma, or men end up just killing themselves more often? What some women and people in general assume about men is truly sickening. Having trauma and chronic illness as a man is devastating. Those who make it out alive are very strong.

Diet of no wheat, gluten, additives, alcohol, get B12 checked, sleep apnea checked, vitamin D , coq10 , pace energy, get rid of people that don’t make you feel good, do something that makes your soul sing

Extreme insomnia here. To let you those know they are not alone,

I love this so much! I’ll come back to this again and again. Thank you Liz - you are such an inspiration to me. Is the idea to do your own visualisations in silence (which sounds hard!!) or to follow ones like this? This was such a joy. Thank you! ❤️❤️❤️

When she says 45mins "I was rewiring all the time" what does she mean? What was she doing? Thanks!

I in uk. So are you saying that light in progress. Recovers you from cfs /. Fibomalyagia. I not heard of it here in Scarborough. X really happy you got a cure x

What is in rain that affects. ?

What type of doctor did you see when ya got all diagnosis. Pls. X.

Bravo !!! This is such an amazing interview Liz 🤍 Thank you for sharing this story and wisdom 🙌🏼

I always hear people saying acceptance and giving in is the key to recover but then is never really explained what it means practically and emotionally?

great interview!

<3 Jesus loves you and invites you to speak with Him in yer Heart at anytime as you would to a good Friend, He never denies anyone who trusts Him.

i understand the desire to edit to make the dialogue flow more naturally and be more digestible but it very slightly takes away from the natural pacing involved in storytelling thank you for your video and channel

Holly cow, what an interesting interview, so far the best I ever saw in my whole recovery journey. I think I am going to watch it again and again. There are so much wisdom in it. Thank you so much to you both for making this happen. Nominated to the Best interview for the year 2024 from the German recovery awards 🙂 Vielen lieben Dank.

My air hunger comes from Babesia. It's much better after long term antibiotics.

Thank you. Brilliant insights. Yes, I will communicate more with my body and relax. I've been sick for 52 years. Eight years of treatment. I'm so tired. Visualization. Intuition

Hay Dan!!!!! Dan is the man! Yes, I did his program ANS Rewire and it was AWESOME! Very smart, very easy, very practical, and very well-paced.His book is also great! Included in it is information for a multi-faceted approach for relief.I still use his techniques and knowledge for all or any ANS problems. It's a great plan for our whole lives not just when we are severely stuck! I owe a lot to him and I am very grateful to him! I know at first it may be hard to really grasp that what he is saying could be true and that it could be that easy, but what he is saying is true! Trust him he KNOWS! Start here or finish here either way it's a win win! Love, peace, and healing to all! And in the words of Dan: Make every choice your best choice! Ava

Great video Liz…thank you

Thank you so much for this fantastic, mindful and compassion-filled video. I am coming up to my one year marker with ME/CFS made so much worse by C-PTSD from having a stroke at 15 years old (yes, you heard that correctly...15!) This all became reactivated (I had previously done an EMDR programme) when my symptoms kicked in last year because not everyone knows that PTSD is a relapsing condition so I've needed to keep an eye on it. Again, so inspired by this and very grateful x

Great interview! Inspiring!❤

“We get to meet our true intuition,”--wow! I love this.

Beautiful what shes about fear! Perfect! Have to remember that!

Such a great interview thank you both! Also, so interesting about people who suppress emotions and why something like dare app might also be useful here as well as dnrs 🙏

What a fantastic interview! So much wisdom and so much to learn from. Looking forward to making contact.

I had also insomnia like this. I had days were i was awake for 2 days. And when i slept for 1 hour my mind was still awake. They gave me the highest dose of anxiety and sleeping pills. They had zero effect. After 3 weeks i was begging the doctors for anesthesia...somehow this got better. And after my pregnancy it corrected...