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I didn't like it as a spectator back then, and was wishing it to be changed exactly in the way it had been later, but when I started to play on sims that old double chicane became my preffered part of Monza together with Ascari. Now I regret it

I start watching F1 in 1993. Great memories

​@@arthurmorgan910893 tho

So fast.

😂👍👍 la réf. A fond, à fond, à fond.... 😅 Pauvre Jean.. 😊😂

They way his career went it's a chicken and egg case. Yes Alesi was more of a feel driver in the mold of Gilles and never very good at developing a car. But whatever car you gave him you could be sure he'll get 100% out of it, like this godawful 1993 car in which he simply destoyed Berger who simply was too scared of pushing its limits because of the terrible active ride it had. Had he made a better career choice and went to Williams I believe he could be as fast there as Mansell was, who was also a feel driver not good at development. So even without tech acumen a driver with his level of talent could've become World Champion. But since throughout his career he was given only crap cars to drive which needed developing it was never a good fit for a driver of his type and the results predictable.

@@Montreal95that’s true. Berger destroyed Alesi in 94 with a passive F1 car. Berger was a better thinker and helped a lot on the car with his feedback. He was close to Niki and Barnard. On sheer speed Alesi was faster and better in wet conditions. But Berger was a more complete driver. Berger was also in the lat 1/3 of his career while Alesi in the first 1/2 of his. Last but not least Berger had a colossal crash at Imola in 89 and like Piquet back in 1987, he said he never went as fast as before after that. I really like both these drivers. Old school, great fun and so much more natural than what we see these days...

@@alexandreknapen946agreed, Berger was extremely fast in his early F1 years, but lost a bit of edge with his scary 1989 Imola crash.

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よく壊れたし、遅かったけど、鈴鹿では一時的だがベルガーが予選でトップタイムを出したり、エストリルでオープニングからトップランを見せたり、見せ場は作ってくれた。エンジンもいい音してた！

absolutely

late 90’s early 2000’s were the dying breaths of the golden age

Nothing else to add

Kkkkk... A "porcaria política" que o Prost jogava nele era 1 segundo por volta. Comparar o Alesi com o Prost parece aqueles débeis mentais que dizem que o Rubinho perdia sempre pro Schumacher por questões "políticas". Só rindo.

That’s absolutely fascinating

The system was safe on the McLaren and Williams, but the Ferrari system had lots of problems. Mansell in 1992 put virtually the whole car over kerbs, that weren't even meant to be used. Check out his Adelaide qualifying.

Today he would be pusnished because of track limits

@@kbst8411 No. Drivers still allowed to go wide outside of Ascari nowadays

What a great observation

AlD72 truth! That car’s active suspension was just diabolical most of the time.

What is active suspension? And it didn't have the same suspension as the other cars at the time?

@@andrewally3570 active suspension is a computer controlled suspension. it was banned at the end of 1993 as part of a move to get rid of all the driver aids. until then anyone who could afford the huge expense developed their own systems(many smaller teams didn't have it because of this reason). And while the Williams system was outstanding and the Mclaren and Benetton systems were quite good, the Ferrari system was just awful in every way and a menace to its drivers safety.

That car was so bad it was the same as the one in 1992 .

It was an awful decent car. Not enough to compete with the Williams. Alesi was unlucky to arrive in Ferrari when Ferrari had got that gap from Williams and Benetton. With a better car, he could win the Championship.

It's Monza, Italy. It's Alesi. He's in a Ferrari. He's laying everything everything out to try to even get close to the Williams Renaults who were in a different universe in 1993. One man's sheer determination is the spectacular part.

The lack of appreciation borders on arrogant

Cameron and ignorance...

prolly a senna guy

The active suspension in the F93A was just plain diabolical most of the time, bucking the car all over the place, in comparison to gliding along in the Williams Renault FW15.

Esatto. Nel 93 la Ferrari pagava ancora il gap tecnico causato nel 90 con la cacciata di Fiorio ed altri tecnici..grazie alle porcate combinate dai vertici Fiat (sponda Prost) per far saltare l'ingaggio di Senna. Il progetto sospensioni attive era già in via di sviluppo per il 91 ma saltò tutto per via di quell'evento. Chi è causa del proprio mal, pianga se stesso.

Sul fronte aerodinamico e delle sospensioni la F93A pagava un distacco enorme dalla Williams, ma pure da McLaren e Benetton. Fortunatamente ad Hockenheim debuttò il motore a 4 valvole, che diede alla rossa quel boost in più, insieme ad un minimo sviluppo. Infatti da li iniziarono a cogliere dei buoni risultati, come il secondo posto di Monza e la bella prestazioni in portogallo.

Luca Rinaldo, ricordo ancora le prime qualifiche in cui usavamo il 4 valvole, salvo poi tornare al 5 per la gara poiché non c’erano garanzie di affidabilità. Nel 94 quel V12 scavò un solco netto rispetto agli altri propulsori: a Hockenheim e Monza eravamo inavvicinabili in qualifica

@@antoninoagostini6320 Ricordo bene che Berger ad hockenheim fece saltare il motore a Schumacher che faceva i salti mortali per stargli dietro.

Estabanado demais, espalhava p todo lado, perdendo tempo demais. Legal de se ver, mas muito pouco eficiente. Seus números na f1 falam p si.

A fond A fond et bac à sable🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Cara correu em equipes de ponta, e só 1 vitória na carreira, não vejo nada de espetacular nisso !