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I really need a $1,000 for the cue.

It is a Piloted 3/8x10 joint. Very unusual for a joint.

Thanks. My 1st thought was actually Viking, because Viking cues from the 80's had a very similar style Bumper.

The Pre Cat shafts were made back in the years when Falcon of Canada built the Predator Butts. Mid 90's to very early 2000's. During these years, the Predator shafts only had a 314 Logo on them, and no Cat logo. They were also made in North America, but not sure by who. At some point in the early 2000's, Predator moved Production from Canada (Falcon factory) to China, and then the shafts had the Cat logo with the 314. I have always felt the the Pre Cat 314 shafts were far higher quality then the ones that were made in China (with the Cat logo), or any of them made after that time period.

​@@justinbryson352The truth is that the Cats are also made in North America, starting with the second generation they were manufactured in China.

What is the difference between cat and pre-cat?

Nice. This one had a Cracked Ferrule, so it really needed the new ferrule. I just was not sure what size to ask for the new ferrule, so had him make it the same length as the previous ferrule.

Mi mejor suposición es palo de rosa y arce ojo de pájaro.

Hi, I do not know anything about the cue. I can only tell you who I got it from. I got the cue from, Nick Serdula. He might know some info about the cue. You can find him on Facebook. I traded that cue for a Steve Klein cue that I had. Very beautiful Perry Weston cue.

I might be wrong, but I recall that cue had an unusual joint pin, for that type of joint..I think that might be a flat faced 5/16x14 joint, which is very odd for a flat faced joint. If that is the case, then you will not be able to find any stock shafts for that cue, like a Predator Revo for example. Or, a Jacoby Hybrid Ultra, to name another example.

@justinbryson352 It is 5/16 x14. Going to SBE to look for shaft. Seems to be in the same condition as your video. If I can ask do you remember what you paid or got on trade. Thanks

@@user-ro9zx2sh6m Okay, I remember now, what I got out of the Perry Weston, and who I traded the cue to. I got a very fancy Tuxedo (Ebony and loaded with White inlays) cue, made by Chad Carter. Then I sold the Carter cue for $1k, but it was probably worth a lot more then that. I tend to give away my cues. I originally traded a very nice / fancy Steve Klein cue for the Perry Weston. czcams.com/video/iP7Oa5Mm1Wg/video.html

I think the shaft just needed a good cleaning, from a Pro. Someone who knows how to safely clean a CF shaft. Because it is dangerous. The chemicals in the CF.

​@@justinbryson352how much that cue?

Thanks for the nice comment.

I auctioned it off on ebay, back when I uploaded this video.

Hi, it was auctioned off on eBay. Any CZcams videos I post, are only for my eBay auctions. Thanks..

Ebay auction.

I have no idea. This is a really old cue, from what Thomas Wayne told me. Made in the early 90's.

Question is, would buyers trust the roll test on a pocket lathe? I actually do have a set that I got off Amazon for $25 very recently, and both parts appear to spin perfect on it. Thanks.

Maybe very slightly in the taper area of the shaft, but the tip remains flat on the table when rolled by itself. I do not know any history about this cue. I just got it. The wrap is surely not original, and I see that it is not perfect. Cue must have been refinished, because the Helmstetter signature is no longer on the cue. Other than that, I tried my best to show the condition of the cue, in these videos. I posted 3 videos. There is a slight wobble in the tip, when rolled together. Probably due to the Joint Facing being very dirty, and just needing a cleaning by a Pro. Thanks.

I auctioned it off on ebay, at the time of posting this video. Thanks though.